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a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 20:05 mircea_popescu: romanians imply various subtle distinction. eg, "gargaun" would be the sort of skittering beetle that digs unseen and ruins structures, like termite or weevil (the folk name of which, "gargarita", very much model for name)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol! even in ro, '3d tv' ?!
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 18:12 mircea_popescu: they have a whole signalling thing in ada, so you don't have to do the retarded c infinite loop
a111: Logged on 2014-03-25 20:52 mircea_popescu: same thing had the us the ballsack to make iraq the 51st state
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 17:46 mircea_popescu: the pov prevailed, and their early ad-hoc "dc" in a sovok flat room somewhere contained proper boxed desktops instead of server racks.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 17:01 mircea_popescu: the only correct solution to "this program has spawned something it can't kill" is "kill the program then".
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 17:05 mircea_popescu: fucking reason i even moved off windows was when i discovered that unlike dos, it does not support this.
asciilifeform actually grasps mircea_popescu's pov quite well, after coupla decades with broken soft that does 'whatever it feels like', one starts thinking of 'i want control' in the sense of 'all i want is a big enuff spiked club to smash it all with'. but if you ~actually have~ proper control, cuz you wrote a correct proggy, then what you really want is 'feldmarschall's baton', not club.
asciilifeform: to run with mircea_popescu's analogy, you want to birth the sons such that they go, when ordered, to the seppuku room, lay down the white sheet, and carefully dump out their guts into the provided pot; rather than having to chop'em up in yer living room, where they'll shit selves, thrash around breaking the fine china, and make whatever other mess.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you accomplish this by giving the subs a termination condition
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the q is why you even ~have~ a wedgedeable -- i.e. having to be async-killed -- subprocess in yer proggy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you permit asynchronous killing of thread, ~any~ part of your proggy could conceivably end up as that N, you have nfi what that thing was doing when you shot it
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 22:12 mircea_popescu: equiring more perl -- the perl programmer who veers off the road into the forest will get out of his car and cut down each and every tree that blocks his progress, then drive a few meters and repeat the whole process. whether he gets where he wanted to go or not is immaterial -- a perl programmer will happily keep moving forward and look busy. getting a perl programmer back on the road is a managerial responsibility, and it
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Right you are, nearly a decade
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 16:31 mircea_popescu: you see, highways are impassable WALLS for the lions ; and because "genetic diversity" is the summum bonum for late-roosevelt pantsuits, it then follows there must be "land bridges" erected so african immigrant lions can come into the suburban lions' house an' cuck 'em.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll shoot em an email today. Their office is out in the sticks near the Palacio Legislativo. Long walk for a below the fold story.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 07:47 mircea_popescu: every time you load one you have to load the whole pile of everything, for the whole case set. eventually (it stands to reason) you'll find it cheaper to specialize them.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 07:47 mircea_popescu: yes. because ada entities keep getting wrapped in things that end up eating runtime to "elaborate" and whatever ion thios vein.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893667 << this is mistake, and imho subtle and worth addressing , i wrote an illustration for mircea_popescu : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TXKlj/?raw=true ☝︎
diana_coman: in mircea_popescu's model/apache terminology the "workers" are in fact my jobs there: they get created , executed, finish
a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 18:20 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the everlulz, Cisza 21F sub 3h "Don't you know what lesbian means? fuck you" LordMPofTMSR "Lmao. I should know, I'm sure I fucked more than you."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: verily. see also e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-02#1891456 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure even ~these~ they buy from siemens.
asciilifeform: ( large motors include 0 magnet, i suspect mircea_popescu knew this )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: small ones certainly
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i misremembered, item was a 'moon buggy'
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 00:10 mircea_popescu: "i was nitpicking re strength, not the model per se". wth, it's not necessary the model airplane used to test out the worker hive's going to contain the sort of seating inside you can ~rely on~ to see in the finished item.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu may also find interesting , that apparently ~soft~ xray is 'glitchier' than hard ( the latter tends to penetrate w/out transferring energy )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have similar pieces , in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1892778 . ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was nitpicking re the algo, rather than the draft coad per se
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/#selection-139.9098-139.9968 << dun seem like diana_coman's mechanism specialized by creating different 'species' of 'worker' -- but by using case selector, as i expected it would. therefore it remains a puzzle to me why to terminate an' rebirth'em ( to save a few kB of ram when machine load is light ?? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'workers' are specialized for particular type of job ? ( i haven't read the proggy yet -- but seems to me that if that's the case, oughta specialize'em by case selector inside 'worker', rather than eating the overhead of rebirthing thread 9000/sec )
shinohai: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2019/where-da-party-at/#selection-127.0-127.12 <<< space?
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had a piece where described this algo, on which errything from hollywood to softwaretardism has been running for ~100y
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the usg.'youth' eagerly and w/out much massage swallow the 'you have Great Ideas!11' idjicy ( where reality is 'yer a not-yet-dry lemon to squeeze' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun find the [] irritating at all
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Will do
a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 19:18 mircea_popescu: the high level i suppose is disputable ; but when getting down to practicals, i was still reading the bottom line on the eye chart at time-and-a-half the distance when we fitted bimbo for glasses.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a greybeard once told asciilifeform , 'you dun know it, but you got finite # loc in you, once you've written them will stand the machine no moar and have to move to forest and eat bark'. i'm not even convinced that it was joke.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I never had screen restriction either but for one thing, I did not start at 4 and for the other there is plenty other stuff (including sleep!) that needs to fit it so...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't picture one'd get far in supa w/out knowing that, yea
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.03542500 << hanbot AMD64 playground
BingoBoingo: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.03542500 hanbot AMD64 playground
asciilifeform: guten tag trinque , mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.03542500 hanbot AMD64 playground
asciilifeform: hanbot, mircea_popescu : machine is ready for cuntoo beachhead .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you find that you wanna experiment with the x60, you will like that the radio nic comes out without hacksaws & drills ( 1 screw ) .
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 18:07 mircea_popescu: so then what did you like about apu1 in the first place ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-06 15:32 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for that matter, the starvation-cheap machine in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2993 , 'samsung n150', same chipset as x60 . cost me exactly fiddybux on fleamarkets.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let's use ( unless mircea_popescu specifically prefers the usb stick for somereason )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i cant speak for eucrypt, but ffa is at least as much experiment in 'can program be written to make sense?' as it is arithm lib
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall how microshit released ~0 useful docs, and folx like norton made megabux sellin' boox
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dos sores , surprisingly, was moar or less sane item (considering that microshit stole it)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ye olde 'doom' , complete with 32bit emm thingie, weighed, what, 2,3mb
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they dun even like to mention that typical gnuturd is 80-90% autoconfolade by mass
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's then nostalgiate for good ol' dos, which sat happily on 360kb flop.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo give me however many fit / you want to spare, she can cuntoo-image them all for you free of charge. << Sounds like a plan. Gathering materials.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: may recall, i stuffed a working linux (with 3.x kernel no less) into <5MB. gentooisms are bulky on acct of sores.
asciilifeform: but for mircea_popescu's purpose i suspect will entirely suffice.
asciilifeform: so then. BingoBoingo plox to take 1 of these and feed to mircea_popescu . the caveat is that it ~may~ fail prior to 1mo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 128G
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I am asking asciilifeform how we want to handle this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're certain you won't need fast disk of >1mo of operation, we can feed you one of the still-working retired rk drives
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: defo 64 is like tits on a boar for cryptoistic dos box etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's not so much win from 64 on lappies where max ram e.g. 3GB. ☟︎
asciilifeform: loox like mircea_popescu got 'lucky'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was the transition period when intel was tryin' to liquidate last stock of 32b item, tru
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there were at least 4 variants. i haven't encountered the 32b one tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in re cured bios, see thrd http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-11#1601541 . ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:41 mircea_popescu: i think i have one right here. from ~period. it's a workhorse, sure, and it paid for itself many times over, but...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you do, get the x60 ( asciilifeform , phf, using w/ patched bios & old gentoo )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: x- was when freshly chinesated but the contents not yet changed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for that matter, the starvation-cheap machine in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2993 , 'samsung n150', same chipset as x60 . cost me exactly fiddybux on fleamarkets. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc t40 was the last 32bit pentium stinkpad
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> vaguely relatedly, is there such a thing as a 64 bit laptop that's acceptable as far as anyone knows ? << I don't hate the thinkpad x120e, AMD E350 Bobcat chip
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope, 64
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: e.g. the well-known x60
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when hanbot goes to do this exercise, ping BingoBoingo so he can do his duty in the cage cycling mains for the unit if necessary
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta the point of nailing down cuntoo etc. to avoid the quite unpleasant 'hrm i need a box, lemme visit junkyard and see if they have pieces of old lada'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's an ancient gentoo boot stick baked by ben_vulpes kept on hand for such occasions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a # of 1b ssd in stock. BingoBoingo plox to give mircea_popescu a quote for same.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what'll you need in re disk ? ( that box is a cold spare and diskless atm )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's in the snsa broadcasts, lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's the snsa spare unit, currently cold
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 21:49 mircea_popescu: spyked http://trilema.com/2015/how-to-fix-your-local-trackbacks/ << turns out i already had.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 17:29 mircea_popescu: can't see why not.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 23:05 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform weirdly that doesn't yield either. i coudl've sworn we had a logthread on african "career women" and euro powdered milk.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/ecologistii-cei-mai-ipocriti-dintre-paminteni/#selection-55.432-55.777
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 23:06 mircea_popescu: at least math stays mathy.
a111: Logged on 2013-10-10 15:01 mircea_popescu: ;;google "a company for carrying out an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: far as i'm concerned, walking bodies who can't languages into a higher maffs classroom is == lunacy to walking in ones who never learned arithmetic
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 18:11 mircea_popescu: in short : the point here is that we control ~the process~ of education, not ~the outcomes~ of education.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-12 20:50 mircea_popescu: and since we're on it, methotrexate is used as an abortifacent, notwithstanding that ethacridine lactate is cheaper, can be used without needing a hospital visit and much safer.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu at one pt walked around in usa for coupla ~yrs~ and then noticed and took the first plane out and never set foot again
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lol, didnt mircea_popescu once mention that he did landau & fr in 1 shot
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 19:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually, i can show you : http://trilema.com/2009/castiga-1000-ron-de-craciun/#comment-11652
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc Mocky actually captured all of the old ada threads in his review
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu already teaches meat kindergarten, i dun expect he'd want moar for anyffin
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 20:00 mircea_popescu: i guess ima put this in the report, "lost cto to binge reading ancient html site"
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 21:00 mircea_popescu: now, it seems to me the case that since there's little benefit in having more threads than cores, it is perfectly acceptable (in this situation) to hold these in an array set as to whatever maximum is reasonable. 32 or 64 or whatever count.