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trinque: shinohai: if you're gonna use the wallet, you'll probably want mod6's patch for -lows too
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 both import and dumpprivkey work \o/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf now that's some power searching.
phf: but yeah, it greps by space separated words, greps by quoted strings (\" escape works) and recognizes from:foo, which composes. i.e. from:foo from:bar baz " foo bar " finds log entries from foo OR bar that contain both "baz" and " foo bar "
mircea_popescu: mno. at the rate we're going s.nsa is publishing a closure statement early may. ☟︎
hanbot: going through the logs, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-19#1453842 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-14#1451677 ...you gonna to stand for that mircea_popescu? ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: as distinct as the roman republic vs empire
asciilifeform: for one thing, 'soviet' means at least 4 distinct periods.
asciilifeform: there is not a the book.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/consumerism-is-not-the-answer-though-it-will-put-you-to-sleep-or-american-history-x/#comment-117069 << if anyone cares to recommend the fellow "the book" on soviet propaganda...
asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2016/04/19/be-vewy-vewy-qwiet-weuh-hunting-wabbits/#comment-45237
BingoBoingo at this rate expects Jeb Bush to be the nominee
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun give a damn re the gangrene.
BingoBoingo: How are you going to live boat when you haven't hardened yourself to the sight of a manatee gone belly up?
trinque: load average is 0.47 on the box, smelly frenchman
trinque: ssh: connect to host deedbot.org port 22: Operation timed out
trinque: wtf is this shit
BingoBoingo: What about q=Xfoo&q=Y where X and Y are numbers representing the order in which the words were entered into the logs of the channel so the very first word is 1, etc.
asciilifeform: the public key and a single message/signature pair in less than a second.'
asciilifeform: signature is totally insecure: an attacker can recover the signer’s private key from
asciilifeform: 'We have shown that GPG’s implementation of the ElGamal
phf: well, no first one is going to catch both foo bar and bar foo, the second one only foo bar
mircea_popescu: aren't these exactly identical ?
gribble: What Did Civil War Soldiers Eat? - Civil War Trust: <http://www.civilwar.org/education/pdfs/civil-war-curriculum-food.pdf>; Hardtack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardtack>; American Civil War Recipes and Cooking: <http://www.americancivilwar.com/tcwn/civil_war/civil_war_cooking.html>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: c-s uses the basic parts of elgamal, hence the investigation. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: plox to not reuse in any shape or form.
asciilifeform: or from the tarball, originally posted by mircea_popescu (which is where i've been working from for past yr)
asciilifeform: to which i bolted a cramer-shoup thing, and started out thinking 'i'll reuse the elgamal piece, c-s is after all a variant of elgamal' but nooooo ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ''I don't see a reason to have a x of about the same size as the p. It should be sufficient to have one about the size of q or the later used k plus a large safety margin. Decryption will be much faster with such an x. Note that this is not optimal for signing keys becuase it makes an attack using accidential small K values even easier. Well, one should not use ElGamal signing anyway.'
asciilifeform: related legend: a very drinkin' fella is stopped by a traffic cop. the latter writes a ticket, and says 'be in the courtroom at 2'
asciilifeform: fewer than a gregorian date !
mircea_popescu: 6 is still too many.
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mircea_popescu: if you say "as implemented* (in sane places)" you've said "burn this thing down"
asciilifeform: and i will point out that epochs as implemented in sane places don't partake of the 'time zone' crapolade.
asciilifeform: yeah but the ~reason~ epochal time is seen as 'unfriendly' is precisely because we are so addicted to traditional calendar, no ?
mircea_popescu: a sort of clearsign for the web, if you will.
mircea_popescu: tbh epoch time prolly a bad idea. for one thing - it is fundamentally retarded in implementation and for this reason not actually usable as intended (see discussion as to why it should be UNIVERSAL and timezone applied on top of it not this random variable). for the other thing, it's not so friendly to humans, whereas the urls are intended and expected to be hand-processable.
mircea_popescu: but in general evolution is from tradition to sense, and when multiple sensible approaches are present the owner decides, with or without support from the forum at his option.
mircea_popescu: so that's why : phf did it this way.
asciilifeform: why not epochal date then.
asciilifeform: how is this crapolade 'logical' ?
asciilifeform: show me ~something~ useful you were unable to do on account of the old format.
asciilifeform: and there was nothing wrong with it.
trinque: "we've always done this"
asciilifeform: what part of this is hard to understand.
trinque: you don't want the numbers in order of magnitude?
asciilifeform: i motherfucking hate this iso thing.
asciilifeform: srsly this took me 10 min
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf pleeeze can haz compatibility with old date format ??
a111: Logged on 2014-10-01 11:58 mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history.
mircea_popescu: in all of this, anyone actually have a link to the discussion in question ?
mircea_popescu: also they're the only ones with children.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what do you take from the coloured dude << Your neighborhood's value.
mircea_popescu: vice-versa. unlike mp, you pretend to be one.
asciilifeform: prolly because unlike mircea_popescu i am not a demigod living outside of time..?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why you have so much trouble with the flux of time.
mircea_popescu: random beerhall aggitator / painter / corporal stood to gain a prison sentence
mircea_popescu: what did lenin stand to gain ?
mircea_popescu: "we" are, you and them.
mircea_popescu: looky, this is nothing more than trying to make reality less abrasive by proposing that "we're not really so different".
asciilifeform: the folks who stoked the initial flame, they stood to gain.
mircea_popescu: this has ~ nothing to do with anything.
asciilifeform: what do you take from the coloured dude
asciilifeform: wrinkled broad or hooknosed dude have ~something to steal~
mircea_popescu: all that's needed is specified physical characteristics that make most of the population ontologically secure.
trinque: you let the federal system fade a bit, and I think there are plenty of roughneck "good old boys" that'll step up and do the killing
asciilifeform: trinque: what do i look for there ?
trinque: outside the major cities
trinque: you should go to a shitty bar in TX sometime
asciilifeform: just means it won't happen ~for the stated historical reason~
asciilifeform: no class extermination there either ?
mircea_popescu: no hitler there, either.
gribble: Salem witch trials - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials>; Salem Witch Trials - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com: <http://www.history.com/topics/salem-witch-trials>; The Trials - Salem Witch Museum: <https://www.salemwitchmuseum.com/education>
mircea_popescu: ;;google salem witch trials
asciilifeform: who will shovel the shit ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hitler dun really enter into this.
asciilifeform: trinque: the 'american hitler' thing's been forecast for ~80y
mircea_popescu: trinque dude, merkuh! the land that sunk when they took ur jerbz. fabulous. you came up with it ?
trinque: just because he knew and dealt with the clintons doesn't mean he likes them
mircea_popescu: yeah the idea of keeping it tight and narrow might well be best.
asciilifeform: trinque: as far as i can see, he's a stage prop for clitler's ordained throne
trinque: give it a few terms and somebody will be up there screaming about the lost greatness of merkuh, and there will be hoards of ignorant and angry blue collar guys loving it
mircea_popescu: and then raped women in the street for a few years, by the thousands.
mircea_popescu: yet after they were accused of stabbing the army in the back, they overthrew the government "without breaking as much as a windowpane"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider zee german folk, that law abiding, king and country worshipping cow that spent the middle ages in the WORST shackles of all, not matched by the blacks in the empire of brazil or by anyone since.
trinque: asciilifeform: check out trump for example; he's easing them back into having good old fashioned political riots
mircea_popescu: but on the other wtf are noobs to do.
mircea_popescu: it's an iffy proposition, on one hand it's an obligation to keep up to date, because an outdated one is worse than none.
phf: mircea_popescu: by the way, &from=foo already works, i.e. &from=mircea will only show...
asciilifeform: trinque: i know approximately how many. i also know what they amount to, if past c. is any guide (from waco to mcveigh to the oregon clowns)
mircea_popescu: i'd say a multiparam grep search is already a full solution for this problem.
mircea_popescu: he has nfi because he doesn't live ion the country, he lives in the red square.
phf: mircea_popescu: so i started working on a proper search, but that takes time, since need a query parser and a query compiler, that's maybe 40% done. but i can give you relatively soon an ability to pass multiple q parameters. so it'll be log-search?q=black&q=jews so that those will stack up, i.e. first grep is applied and the second one is used as filter
mircea_popescu: the great black swamp still fills womens' breats with milk. you don't need THAT MANY people to wipe a 12%ish pesky minority.
trinque: man, do you not realize how many rednecks there are in this country?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is still lulzy, imho, wiped by ~whom~ ? 'pencilnecked' whitez ?
mircea_popescu: i can't use grepping for this. if it did token join search i could search for blacks jews
mircea_popescu: phf so this is not a complaint, but : i really liked the way the log search worked, because : right now i'm searching for that portion in the logs where i explained that the us blacks are kinda like the jews, demographically, and will prolly get wiped.
PeterL: you have been the consistent most verbose person here for years, you probably own all the words