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danielpbarron: they probably have a free spot left -- the rest of you are welcome to try
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, if you represent the republic, do me a favour and hire a half dozen strippers to be mostly naked, will you.
danielpbarron: i don't think they could have turned me down even if my aim was to represent the republic tho. 700 USD or whatever for a vendor spot.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 20:42 hl`: I'm a longtime owner-control advocate.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823026 << this sort of statement would be so much more useful/important/noteworthy/actually existent if it came in the form of "i'm the guy from $X, long term so and so". where $X doesn't have to be a "our words are backed by nuclear weapons" state. can even be a blog. a dogshed. SOMETHING. but something specifically and identifiably existent. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 23:54 danielpbarron: they have some app exibitors can use to promote where they'll be and what they are serving (i reserved a vendor campsite specifically for the purpose of provoking conversation about the Bible) -- i also mention in my "profile" that i'm a lord in the most serene republic of Bitcoin, which mysteriously gets removed. I add it again, removed again. They apparently don't mind a religious "cult" but not
BingoBoingo: Dogology is having a different set of dog lights
mircea_popescu: dog that doesn't learn speech doesn't so much have a pathology as a dogology.
BingoBoingo: The redditards have a pathology. A presence of something anti-useful
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> i suppose idiocy not baked into hindbrain << What you described happening to you was light coming on in a dark place letting you see. It is an absence phenonmenon. Nothing inherently bad.
mircea_popescu: just because it's useful dun mean it's a tech.
mircea_popescu: nor would i call it a gravel mill.
danielpbarron: it's a common reaction from those who know they aren't in the know to those who think they are, that my perscsription is bunk
asciilifeform: Mocky: we had a fella coupla yrs ago, Framedragger, who struggled with the disease and in the end relapsed.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 23:36 danielpbarron: i once triggered a guy to the point of thinking he might have his first fist fight, over anti-ssl, till his friend dragged him away
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823338 << they have a 'seekoority is what comes in ssl bottle, it's how we seekoore our tor darkmarketrons' idiocy stack baked into their hindbrains ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i need a unicode for the new york jew handwave. << Gaza http://qntra.net/2018/06/israeli-knesset-quietly-disqualifies-equality-bill-maintain-the-jewish-majority-even-if-it-violates-rights/
mircea_popescu: i need a unicode for the new york jew handwave.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823343 << picture this, monkey man actually thought asciilifeform is a neet , satisfied with idea of hand-diddling 1 quasi-working,opensores-style box ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( rk3399 is a bog-standard rockchip, very similar to the one in pizarro pilot plant, but with 6 cores instead of 4 )
asciilifeform: aside from that, this is almost the perfect mircea_popescu lappy in this one respect : the 802.11 card is on own little dildo corner of pcb, you could prolly remove it with a saw.
asciilifeform: and you stuff it into a fpga with a couplae custom periphs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a pestilentially-common product; arm co licenses the .verilog
asciilifeform: this one is something like a xilinx but with metal rom instead of the usual LUT rom.
asciilifeform: well 'whitelabel arm' implies a proper physical one with the engraving sanded off. which i suspect this one is emphatically not.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-12#1823375 << except, it ain't a proper arm cortex, but a softcore-arm in (metallization)fpga. cuz i suspect somebody read the Logz re specificity-of-diddling ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:37 asciilifeform: personally, i'd consider a box with no trackpad function, to be usable
mircea_popescu: not even bad for a first approx!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822694 << jesus fuck how fucking braindead can you get! let ~everyone else~ not use fucking computers, holy shit. there's a reason http://trilema.com/2016/the-megawatt-standard/ already! ☝︎
danielpbarron: i'm working on an article that suggests otherwise, porcfest is too small a thing to go to such existential lengths
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, should be a pretty decent heuristic indicator for you. one of the two things you're in is going somewhere, according to the beast.
danielpbarron: they have some app exibitors can use to promote where they'll be and what they are serving (i reserved a vendor campsite specifically for the purpose of provoking conversation about the Bible) -- i also mention in my "profile" that i'm a lord in the most serene republic of Bitcoin, which mysteriously gets removed. I add it again, removed again. They apparently don't mind a religious "cult" but not ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822648 << can you step back from your own insanity, and look at how they fucked your head ? really, you're going to go through your entire life "taking lessons", ie not doing anything, because that's what they made you do it at the child abuse camp they call college ? and then what, you'll be 80 and dying on a borrowed mattress, and... what ? you'll have had all these lessons you "took" ? wh ☝︎
danielpbarron: speaking of the buring geek, bitcoin is (i suspect) a banned word/topic
mircea_popescu: http is a ~stateless~ protocol. you need state, do something else. no, there may not be such a thing as a "website login", not anymore than there can be a planesubmarine.
mircea_popescu: really, replace it with nothing. ssl is a braindead answer to a malformed question nobody asked.
danielpbarron: guy says "and replace it with what??" to which I said "idk, libreSSL, but i'm not really a fan of ssl in general"
mircea_popescu: we're not here to try and convince mommy that we're cool kids. we're here to fuck her in the ass until it prolapses, and leave her chained to a pole in the park where all the used needles are.
oda: I enjoy following nerd drama but I try to stay out of arguments. Only one in recent memory was a bunch of people calling me an idiot for swapping on zram (which I kind of have to do on my shitty netbook)
danielpbarron: i once triggered a guy to the point of thinking he might have his first fist fight, over anti-ssl, till his friend dragged him away ☟︎
mircea_popescu: different from, say, comp.lang.lisp archive in that a) their chosen kid wasn't naggum and b) they actually had gathered around properly, as opposed to the idiots on bbs, captive in their self-important notions of independence and other man-alone-isms.
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : cat-v was a bunch of dorks collected around a chosen kid, trying to do things. chosen kid died and they turned to scar tissue.
oda: not that there's anything wrong with that. just that my convictions regarding software choices are a bit more moderate
mircea_popescu: in fact, there was a collision at some point, where was it...
oda: jej, so this is a cat-v type crowd?
oda: mircea_popescu: I got it working with the paste site in the deedbot help site. Also that tiuxo site is my site. Cloudflare filtering might have denied deedbot, I filter out China / Russia / Korea and a few useragent strings I was getting a lot of weird traffic from
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:05 |\n: apart from things unspeakable on freenode i love to bring up tor relays and i got a job as an admin of shitty place
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 18:37 apt-get: the reason I keep using this nick is because it's quite handy to have personal info drowned out in a sea of noise when someone tries to look it up
mircea_popescu: as the whole bee-dog has been a thing for all these many years.
a111: Logged on 2016-02-24 04:23 mircea_popescu: omfg alf sees the world like a bee-dog : in black and white and all pixelated.
mircea_popescu: hey Mocky : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-24#1413916 kinda lamost promises a case for saying alfer character ~is based on~ alf! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: eventually went to specialist store, bought 3 meters of double-width towel substance, had them rodeando it. 3 * 3500 + 3000 for the work = ~30 bux. now i have a proper beach towel, can seat five.
mircea_popescu: and in other fuck-this-failed-civilisation, NO SHOP in all the fucking town had a proper beach towel. the chinese overlords have decided all towels must be up to 1/3 size and that's it. "i want a towel king bed size" "you mean sheets ?" "no dood. towel." "here's the towels." "these are small."
deedbot: Provide a paste URL to the ascii-armored GPG public key or the full 40 character key fingerprint without spaces or dashes.
oda: Just wanted to lurk a bit and see what sort of chat goes on here
mircea_popescu: and in other news, i bought myself a meter and a half long spoon paddle.
asciilifeform: or better yet, if they dun show signs of a half-working brain, just !!down , dun hesitate, 'ваше слово, товарищ маузер!'(tm)(r)
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 20:35 asciilifeform: so far my only clue that h1 actually runs the given fw , is that i was able to flash in a vendor update : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821699 and ended up with a slightly different, in the ways suggested by the src, console
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 19:57 asciilifeform: swiftgeek: given your introduction ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822589 ) i assume you may be interested in verifying fact that cr50 is not a subfunctionality of the ordinary (i.e. kept in winbond spi ) bootrom or the EC controller ('nuvoton' arm , visible in right hand of photo ). this is very simple to do:
asciilifeform: not 1 would be caught dead giving half a shit re what it all adds up to
trinque: perhaps the compartmentalized nonsense factory is not such a strong longterm strategy
asciilifeform: the very notion that anything whatsoever happening on a nato-produced 22nm die is 'owner controlled'...
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 21:24 hl`: that's actually a fair point too. as implemented in e.g. PCs nowadays, even putting the closed firmware issues aside, the way they are integrated is _not_ secure. they're just connected using open pins to the CPU, you could easily replay everything
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 20:42 hl`: I'm a longtime owner-control advocate.
asciilifeform: each wunderwaffen has a seekrit committee , with nsa-vetted gentry, and a larger nonseekrit ('commercial'), for ladling out grantolade to academics and quasiacademics
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 23:48 asciilifeform: kanzure: i spilled the beans from a similar darpa conference that i attended, in the heart of the beast itself, few yrs back ( it's in the l0gz, spoiler : multilinear map homomorphic crypto is bunkum ) and still waiting for gasenwagen
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 21:15 swiftgeek: DARPA was messing with that a lot
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823179 << phunphakt, asciilifeform ( in ascii_butugychag period ) was a slave in precisely that bit of idiocy, sat in the peanut gallery at the derp committee, etc ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <hl`> that doesn't protect against physical attacks. << Buy a dog and carry a hammer
hl`: that's actually a fair point too. as implemented in e.g. PCs nowadays, even putting the closed firmware issues aside, the way they are integrated is _not_ secure. they're just connected using open pins to the CPU, you could easily replay everything ☟︎
asciilifeform: if anybody told you otherwise, he is a dirty liar, and probably selling snake oil.
asciilifeform: there is not even a proof that the difficulty of rsa is equivalent to that of factoring.
asciilifeform: and in particular a reduction of ~every~ generated key, rather than avg case.
asciilifeform: at any rate there does not currently exist ANY usable crypto algo, of any purpose, for which a complexity class reduction to any class is known.
swiftgeek: well a lot for researchers
asciilifeform: hl`: this is a perpetuum mobile.
hl`: i.e., you'd have to solve the halting problem to write a program which can analyse the generated programs in the general case, meaning that any computational malevolence (compromised silicon, etc.) can only compute the result of the algorithm by executing it unless someone solves the halting problem
swiftgeek: DARPA was messing with that a lot ☟︎
hl`: general case - basically using the halting problem as a trapdoor function.
hl`: asciilifeform: that's actually an interesting idea - i've toyed with a similar idea previously, though for different applications. basically, my idea was to come up with some way of algorithmically generating algorithms such that the algorithm generator can know the correct answer computationally easily, but where the structure of the algorithm is highly randomised such that it resists analysis in the
asciilifeform: 'open' isn't worth a sparrow's fart, per se
swiftgeek: and it's just a silly 80c51 mcu
asciilifeform: crypto on single-die device of modern (i.e. past 25 yrs ) manufacture, is a losing proposition.
hl`: (especially since they have a bloody _firmware update_ capacity. !)
asciilifeform: this is the fundamental fallacy that resulted in a market empty of honest iron.
hl`: to be clear, any company which ships chips fused to only run their code gets a 'fuck you' from me
swiftgeek: asciilifeform: it depends on having root-of-trust (tpm isn't it), then it's a fun store of secrets
asciilifeform: in a barrel.
swiftgeek: hl`: but OTP root of trust is not a solution either
asciilifeform: whole concept of 'root of trust' is a crock of shit.
asciilifeform: over in the civilized world, we http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/ our crypto.
asciilifeform: they're a nsa boobytrap, sold under the fraudulent pretense of 'security'
hl`: not really trustworthy if they have non-free firmware on them, but theoretically they have a use case ☟︎
swiftgeek: it's a start
asciilifeform: it is not difficult to design a usable cpu, if you don't need bincompatibility with anything
asciilifeform: so 'it's a tpm' is not anything like whole story.
asciilifeform: ( this was possible because i purchased a unit having cr50.r0.0.10.w0.3.3 fw )
asciilifeform: swiftgeek: understand, i have a quite specific aim in re this machine, outlined in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822866 . i do not particularly care re the irrelevant details, e.g. the shape of the antennae in m2, or the exact diameters of the screw holes, etc. ☝︎
swiftgeek: it's a new form of getting FCC certification
hl`: I'm a longtime owner-control advocate. ☟︎☟︎