log☇︎
31100+ entries in 0.232s
asciilifeform: i was reading through cuntoo lens still.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834857 << hm i thought you were building eulora ~back end~ . or does even backend use opengl somehow. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other upbeat news, i finally figured out esthlos 's byline. leibniz huh.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834795 << nah, no list yet. I've yet to successfully build a lisp, but alpine has sbcl, so I don't wager it's impossible. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <trinque> some of this work won't have to be done completely ab initio; there are musltronic distros out there that can at least act as source material for research, alpine and void linux for example. <<As far as I can tell Alpine is a musl build of gentoo, comparatively clean. Void on the other hand is more like a tampon. Bloody inside and out
asciilifeform: aha, sorta why i had it lying around
mircea_popescu: afaik they were, even as far as the 10.x series ; but this i've never put to the cuntoo test.
asciilifeform: ( i assumed mircea_popescu was speaking of ye olde norwegian ministry of telecom or wherever 1MB closed x86 opera, rather than the 'modern' abortion )
asciilifeform: i dun know much about ye olde closedsores opera -- if it was built statically, it oughta run on cuntoo
asciilifeform: i meant 'any'. afaik the only remaining graphical www thing that builds even on asciilifeform's ban-flagged gentoo ( not even speaking of musl ) is old firefox.
mircea_popescu: i've conducted a review of extant browsers ; outside of opera ~none work worth a shit ; and in the lulziest of manners, eg, firefox 45 crashes about 4.5 times more frequently than firefox 10. and so on.
mircea_popescu: i guess we'll find out soon enough.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just as long as i can still use cuntoo to show cunts their cunts too!
asciilifeform: i can't picture anybody shedding a tear for gtk/kde/etc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but should probably try X at some point i guess.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i expect neither gtk nor kde work, and i expect contrary to postgresetc discussion above, nobody likes any of 'em even vaguely enough to import.
asciilifeform: the 2 major ones i specifically recall in logs were 'screen' and emacs
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834771 << from ~cold~ node it backs up as well as anything else . point was that i can't think of any good reason to do it that way, nodes ( correctly-built, i.e. with aggression ) are self-replicating reasonably quickly ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834762 << when i get own cuntoo test machine up, will test postgres also ( phuctor is currently baked on postgres, though in principle it would also work on mysql etc., simply never yet tried ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 15:38 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check this out : i got a bundle which compiles to 64 bits except one lib, which compiles to 32 bit and then i get " wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 Program exited with code 0177". the configure for it manages to ignore both enable-lib64 --disable-lib32 and CFLAGS=-m64 CXXFLAGS=-m64 LDFLAGS=-m64 sets of flags. you ever heard of such ?!
mircea_popescu: trinque im not saying it's impossible, by any means ; but it'll have to be either done or not done, there's no "i'm not waht i do i'm what i dream". like a wedding, "anyone wanting postgres/whatever speak now or stfu fe&e"
mircea_popescu: i can't tell you just how fucking thrilled we are it was actually approachable in this level.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 15:09 diana_coman: ftr screen also fails and I'd rather have it than not have it but it's not a eulora dep in itself
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check this out : i got a bundle which compiles to 64 bits except one lib, which compiles to 32 bit and then i get " wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 Program exited with code 0177". the configure for it manages to ignore both enable-lib64 --disable-lib32 and CFLAGS=-m64 CXXFLAGS=-m64 LDFLAGS=-m64 sets of flags. you ever heard of such ?! ☟︎
shinohai: Which is far better than starting from zero when hdd crashed that time and I lost whole thing xD
shinohai: asciilifeform my system is by no means perfect .... but yeah periodic stops, I only scheduled rsync for twice weekly to pogo, to minimize downtime. Never results in more than half-hour downtime.
asciilifeform: i.e. at ~max speed permitted by the disk writes.
asciilifeform: a new node plugged directly in ( i.e. over lan ) to a working trb node, with 'aggression' should sync in week or 2.
asciilifeform: shinohai: i've found that trb state can't be effectively backed up without stopping the node ( otherwise indices turn to barf . ) how do you do yours ? periodic stops ?
shinohai: nah, i made own setup after the arch linux install, just do a gentoo chroot once in to sort of unify my setup
shinohai: Thankfully, pogo turned out to be great NAT device, I run a mech hdd in the dumb-as-bricks vertical hdd slot, and a samsung t3 portable ssd from the top usb connector.
shinohai: A friend of mine has one of those mediasonic mini raid boxes, i cant remember how many drives it holds.
asciilifeform: incidentally, a miniature raid (i.e. harness 4 cheapo hdd to 1 usb3 cable) would be a very useful thing. which afaik unfortunately does not exist.
shinohai: Pretty much same as I always reported, usually stayed several "days" behind, this did not improve until I purchased samsung ssd about a year ago.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 13:31 diana_coman: asciilifeform, re screen & nohup: metoo! but nowadays I do use screen a LOT
shinohai: When my rockchips arrive though, i guess i'll use one of my old rusty hdd's in one just for lulz, I have like 10 now.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 15:31 diana_coman: asciilifeform> shinohai: trying doesn't hurt. and iirc somebody actually got a mechanical-hdd node to stay synced more or less decently with aggression patch -> yes, I did
BingoBoingo: But yes, I am on location. My name is on the fiat side paperwork. The incentives are lined up. Make Uruguay, Great Again!
diana_coman: asciilifeform, re screen & nohup: metoo! but nowadays I do use screen a LOT ☟︎
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I am inclined to take the gig
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 00:13 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834333 << I'll state for the record that I consider myself largely unqualified for the role (plus my hopper overfloweth atm)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834346 <-- fwiw, I believe I'm also ill-equipped for this job. I'd only trust a spyked to get this right after he's delivered on at least a couple of self-directed projects, and even then... I need a wee bit more experience under my belt. on this note, /me finds http://trilema.com/2018/technology-and-governance/ to be a good reread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: re 'screen' -- funnily enuff for many yrs asciilifeform did not use it aside from as rs232 terminal a la 'kermit'; for the absolutely fucking vital item of 'leave my bg processes alone when i disconnect', used simply 'nohup', which comes with afaik errry unix since system5
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 15:09 diana_coman: ftr screen also fails and I'd rather have it than not have it but it's not a eulora dep in itself
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: the only marginally complicated thing about statements is tracking the customer equity line and invoicing for the month-to-month customers, i will hand over my notes and assist you should you take the gig
ben_vulpes: for instance (attn asciilifeform, mod6, BingoBoingo), while reviewing books with mod6 recently i realized that i calculated s.mg's lease cost from the machine purchased from s.nsa (which we got bare, no storage), and not from the cost of the machine stuffed full of disks.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834420 << he is positioned to do a far better job than i have/can, and i believe that he will ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 01:56 mircea_popescu: did the clickbank account ever stand up ? etc etc, i dunno how executing on the lenghty list of items in the log these pasts month could put one behind.
mircea_popescu: notice as in, you know, actually notice, "omfg i can't believe what a shithead i am, missed out on the financial bitcoin train and then on the political too, i truly am too stuipid to fucking live" and subsequently blow their brains out, as any sort of rational process absolutely dictates...
mircea_popescu: i dunno, what difference does it make ?
asciilifeform: in his words, lol, 'I never did make it down for one of MP’s famous conferences, then he stopped having them a few years back. So wut do.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834531 << not long ago i peeked at d00d's www, it is full of ???. even attends shitcoin 'conferences' nao. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: d00d was a noxious twit for as long as i can remember
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fuck him, i dunno that he was part of any kind of solution at any point in his miserable existence.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30InBgGhiSo is all i got to say.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated elaineo 2 at 2017/09/26 04:47:52 << somehow manages to write unirritatingly while also academia. i have yet no theory as to how this is possible.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 13:24 brazilish: i'm trying to running trb on the cheapest possible setting
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834457 << ftr this is a ~very~ Bad Idea . for instance , i do not know in what starvation-cheapo hoster brazilish put his node, but if it was aws he will find that he cannot connect to ~any of the l1 folx's trb nodes, most people ban aws ip range whole ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: know what, yer right, i'ma let him dig.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, you know, ~all that is *already* in the logs; but I don't know what sort of shoving and pushing and prodding will get him to really search for it
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 13:37 brazilish: can i ask what specs have actual running trb nodes?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834483 << just about anything with 2GB or more memory will work -- trb is not really cpu-bound . a 1TB disk will last you 3-5 yrs until fills. ideally ssd ( though the exact penalty from using mechanical disk is not yet known, see last night's thread ). if ssd -- i recommend samsung's, cheapo ssd typically burns after 1-2 yrs of trb wear. ☝︎
diana_coman: I still have to go through the rest and I'll probably report as I go
asciilifeform: life is pretty hard without 'screen', i'ma look at it as soon as i have own cuntoo going
diana_coman: ftr screen also fails and I'd rather have it than not have it but it's not a eulora dep in itself ☟︎☟︎
brazilish: problem: downloaded asciilifeform_blackhole_reads.vpatch and placed in patches folder, same for the sig file in .seals, then running ./v.pl p v trb054 makefiles.vpatch, but i don't get the patch in the src files
diana_coman: you can ask; I don't see the benefit to either of us in an answer
brazilish: can i ask the specs of this one and if you remember how much has spent syncing?
diana_coman: and a serious dose of log reading seems required; do your searches, gather what answers you get from them , write them in a post on your blog and THEN if it's still unclear come and ask, with a link "here's what I figured out, here's what I still have no idea on"
brazilish: diana_coman: i saw on the foundation site that you have an advertised node
brazilish: btw, I did my research about the evil of a virtual machine setup, but I'm just doing it to test a running node before having bare metal at my premises
brazilish: can i ask what specs have actual running trb nodes? ☟︎
brazilish: i followed the procedure on thebitcoin.foundation
diana_coman: there, I rated you so you should be able to self-voice now
diana_coman: there is that "I'm too poor to afford cheap things"
brazilish: i'm trying to running trb on the cheapest possible setting ☟︎
brazilish: no but i'll make one
diana_coman: I meant: to ask early about it and get help figuring it all out
diana_coman: and as a customer of Pizarro I'd be very happy to know that BingoBoingo takes on the management role and gets it moving;also, re directions to my mind this forum here is a great place to come and ask about scary/unknown stuff *early*
BingoBoingo: I'm not buddhist. Contentment is impossible
mod6: i need the man to stay content with his situation, he's the boots on the ground.
BingoBoingo: Last time I tried the shaving it was maybe a week and a half before I had straight out of Africa shaving bumps
mod6: BingoBoingo: I'm gonna let you think about it for a few days if you need. Think about if you really want to take on major parts of this role. I think you ~can~ do it. But, I don't want you to feel overwhelemed or pushed into it either.
mircea_popescu: i got beard...
mod6: And I agree that the man could be good at it. But I tend to believe a man when he says "hey, I need instructions, day to day".
mod6: But I missed what you were asking, you were asking if I was going to promote BingoBoingo. I totally didn't even get that until just now.
mod6: <+a111> Logged on 2018-07-02 18:37 mircea_popescu: well... so what are you gonna do, promote in house i suppose ? << you know, when we talked about this a week ago... it never even considered BingoBoingo , not because i think he's not a person or any such nonsense. But because when we started this ventue, he said that he needed strict guidence.
BingoBoingo: mod6: A fairly hands off (i.e not day to day situation) report to the board situation is fine
mircea_popescu: yes, well, and i want kim kardashian to blow up my ass. we get what we get.
mod6: I sent out personalized letters to two Lords asking if they wanted to fill the role. I didn't sit back and kick it.
mircea_popescu: ima ask again the thing i asked you lot when you came up with the batshit insane options arrangement : do you think he's not a real person because he's actually DOING things, real things, scary real things such as fucking venezuelans, and real people are only the meditative kind ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 18:37 mircea_popescu: well... so what are you gonna do, promote in house i suppose ?
mod6: I have no idea. I'm just trying to swim upstream here, Sir.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what the impediment is here. looky here : 1. you want to write a ~new~ job description, now. the job isn't new, so where's the old job description ? if you didn't have one then, why would you have one now, and if you didn't think you need one then, why would you need one now, and if it didn't occur to you to write it then why are you qualified to write it now ?
mod6: And BingoBoingo, yeah, that's the plan. I'll do the best I can at this, but the more I learn about what was all involved day-to-day with ben_vulpes, the more I'm worried that I'm ill-equiped to do this work.
mod6: Yeah, I need to write up a job description.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yes hire someone, i get it, but really that's not how hiring works. hire someone that what ?
BingoBoingo: <mod6> I understand if this doesn't happen right away, but eventually, position will need to be filled. The offer stands, even if it stands for some time. << One way to handle this is... Take over what ben_vulpes on an interim basis and hand off tasks you don't have time for.
mod6: I understand if this doesn't happen right away, but eventually, position will need to be filled. The offer stands, even if it stands for some time.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834322 << this is a fine question. what's the envisaged happy ending here ? << As I was saying, was hoping to hire someone. ☝︎