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mircea_popescu: ftr, i don't believe this "save object code" thing is handled correctly.
mircea_popescu: yes but be specific! he asks how, i ask which, same deal.
mircea_popescu: if you don't wanna be potentially sexed, don't potentially open the potent doors.
mircea_popescu: potentially -- black guy with erection standing at your door about to ring bell.
mircea_popescu: it's a limited window, between (now, when we get the replacement going)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not really ; can get away with letting grandfathered systems work it. exactly how we bootstrap ada.
mircea_popescu fully expected another rehash of "oh, it's glacial", as people then present no doubt remember.
mircea_popescu: but much to my surprise, you demonstrated a tower of ductape lisp-flavoured drink that was fast.
mircea_popescu: exactly. it's a "risk free" adventure in the sense all one risks is own time.
mircea_popescu: is this an intractable problem in itself, or do the sort of people who could do it, keep getting distracted with idiocy ?
mircea_popescu: so basically the correct move is, throw out emacs, rewrite it in sane lisp ?
mircea_popescu: well no, climacs was "above a momentary wad of spit, but it did not add up to something that can be used."
mircea_popescu: phf i have nfi what you're doing. this is what this opening of the pandora box is all about, trying to grok it once.
mircea_popescu: trinque so putatively, if i wish to tell someone some choice bits about his mother's sexual preferences in russian, i must first map A to A ?
mircea_popescu: trinque i confess i'm lost in metaphore. how do you map "i dunno how the fuck you close this damned thing" operator situation to it ?
mircea_popescu: not every time a dweeb dreams up a situation where he talks to the girl across is a relationship.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so the proper thing to say is, "climacs never existed"
mircea_popescu: trinque so then your desk can't be part of paperwork delivery because courrier doesn't know how to leave you paper ; and you'll have to clea nthe room yourself as the black woman hired to clean the place can't interact with your desk ?
mircea_popescu: well so then would you agree that " obviously incompatible with most elisp in the wild" is actually a desirable situation ?
mircea_popescu: seems to me it's the exact same problem, cat held by tail trying to scratch the hand holding it.
mircea_popescu: phf and i'm a troglodyte for thinking this isn't right ?
mircea_popescu: (why the fuck he runs adwords is another question for another time)
mircea_popescu: which, imo, is enough to PERMANENTLY bury even the notion of "open source" as a "collaborative" endeavour.
mircea_popescu: phf the problem there is, that if a cut can't be identified, why are we even doing this.
mircea_popescu: trinque so shockingly similar to how... #trilema bot ctrl sq work ?
mircea_popescu: yes well. complicated. discussing the simple things in lieu of the things being discussed is not much of a strategy.
mircea_popescu: and the discussion isn't "default ones". discussion is "cultural ones", ie, "the complete mass of expectations"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note that when jurov pointed it out, you jumped. why ? if you know this is so, then it is so.
mircea_popescu: phf yes; but amusingly asciilifeform doesn't admit this. somehow.
mircea_popescu: dawgs, the question was as to usercount. he answered, that he dun use it. what moar.
mircea_popescu: phf can you reduce this short leg metaphore to a strict example ?
mircea_popescu: because yes, the exact sort of objection (we're only counting the cogent ones, washed out of 10bn words of idiocy outside the gates) brought against emacs can (and was) brought against desk by orcs. "o, by the time you're done moving it around the meadow the boar long left" "what boar ?" "the one you were going to shoot inkwell at, silly." "oh i c"
mircea_popescu: because this is a major, no, strike that, this is THE major fucking decision here.
mircea_popescu: trinque so are you basically taking the stand where you swear that emacs is actually productive, in the sense of taking less time to customize for and solve new problem than trivial approach, and therefore it's the incorect habits of the common user rather than the harmful structure of emacs that's to blame ?
mircea_popescu: can you answer this ? is the "emacs is fun to customize, and comes with guarantee that it will solve any x hour problem in x * 1.17 ^ your age hours" ?
mircea_popescu: i was counting the "experts" outside of here. those things that exist, you know.
mircea_popescu: emacs has been around for 500 years and NOT A SINGLE COGENT DISCUSSION of this matter is to be found anywhere.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but you idiots being what you are i can't discern if it's "backwards pistol is every grenadier's problem because it fires backwards" or "bayonett is every recruit's problem b ecause attempts to sit on it".
mircea_popescu: ie it seems to me the ~attempt~, whether it should succeed or fail, will be productive nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: elisp may actually be very much worth explicitly studying ?
mircea_popescu: consider -- if we agreed as indeed we seem to have that scripting language (eg, for eventual webatron, and for everything else) should be lisp dialect,
mircea_popescu: (me used and abandoned in less than a year decade+ ago, so...)
mircea_popescu: phf explain it to me again, why should it be abandoned ?
mircea_popescu: phf we will have to somehow resolve this issue, because neither of the current outcomes is seemly. having republicans use the google drive systemd website thing is idiotic ; taking people's shit is idiotic. wut do.
mircea_popescu: and phf is quite ripe for a major signature project like that ; eulora dun seem to interest him, so...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform phf in any case it's high time emacs is either dropped or published.
mircea_popescu: the thing's dead, what. this is the direct equivalent of arab kid scratching ins'allah on inside of pharoh tomb.
mircea_popescu: because i kept going from double take to double take, "seriously, someone uses google drive ?!" then "wait, system what ?!"
mircea_popescu: douchebag looky, the place's not for you. you're not smart enough to be here. what's so hard to grok about this ? some people are smart, some people aren't smart, you're not smart. what, you have to be dragged out, your legs don't work, what is it ?
☟︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: mexicans are having an ok time with the progressive moving of erstwhile us inhabitants into their dreamer tanks.
mircea_popescu: this is not related to profession, it's a demographic pressure thing.
mircea_popescu: everyone had an ok time after depopulation event, most recently ww2,