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mircea_popescu: anywya. my solid state is dusty. i dun recall what all this was.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform technically speaking, thermalizing neutrons may take them to visible spectrum. but this wouldn't count would it.
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mircea_popescu: ;;google material that neutrons excite, emits photons on deexcitement
mircea_popescu: you want to just take fiber and coat it ?
asciilifeform: it is enough for the cladding to.
asciilifeform: for you do not need whole thing to scintillate!
mircea_popescu: (in my mind the foremost role of this place is exactly - begging for unconventional wunderwaffen)
asciilifeform: find way to dope standard plastic fiber, already born....!
mircea_popescu: is it ok to beg in #trilema or notrly ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is really begging for a wtf unconventional wunderwaffen, think:
mircea_popescu: just for the public relations embarassment of publicising this fact.
mircea_popescu: anyway, let it be said for the record that if anyone wants to move here and do the job, and we can keep costs within sanity, i'd definitely considering making a plant and exporting the product freely
asciilifeform: 'devil is in the details'
asciilifeform: and now mircea_popescu has correctly described the usual $100m apparatus...
mircea_popescu: you fill the underside with gas at pressure so exact same density as fiber.
mircea_popescu: tungsten carbide. no plastic will alter that pore.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you don't have controlled constant diameter, you lose the total internal refraction and it aint fiber nomoar
mircea_popescu: you just wanted me to step into the dark. i did.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you use plastic and adjust temp correspondingly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also recall that scintillator fiber is plastic
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. you need the fiber to be straight, or if will kink to death when transported.
mircea_popescu: phf what do you keep doing to these women that they keep kicking you out every three weeks.
phf: I think ! conflicts with deedbot though
mircea_popescu: i dunno, this being unknown unknown. but as an example : take hard porous material (say, metallic carbide), cut into thin slice, heat to 3k, pour melted glas on top, let some of it find its way through necessarily open pores (ceramic is thin), select from the results usable fibers.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 14:43 mircea_popescu: phf : could a111 answer to !s "string", on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=string ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460008 << yah ascii already asked for the feature. I was moving between apartments, so will go back to hacking in a day or two ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're thinking "every sperm is sacred" style. think al schwarz "i really dun care if i waste 99% of the glass" style.
asciilifeform: drawing fiber is only slightly easier than chip fab
mircea_popescu: the irony here being that it's not SO hard to make.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: briefly back to the fiber, from what i saw last night, one would need about 20cm for ideal rng.
asciilifeform: which was factored by buncha folks the old-fashioned way
mircea_popescu: but is this it
asciilifeform: ti is famous for that 513b key in the calculator
mircea_popescu: there seems to be no use made of it. i was tempted to make this into a qntra piece, but...
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 14:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (does everybody understand why scintillator ~fiber~ is neat, while the commonly-available scintillating plastic blocks are nearly useless for rng ?) << essentially, quantum antenna.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460011 << you don't need photomultiplier tube with the fiber, aha. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 11:20 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 5174413344875007990519123187618500139954995264909695897020209972309881454541 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Texas Instruments Inc. <txn@ti.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/65AF533625D036E68BEFAD0F3B7E5A4B933DB7487F4108A75235E17C0745BAF8
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460004 << holyshit, nontrivial factor. and see the 2 mods side by side, and will see why... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so depending on how you figure, there's 1.55 bad moduli per thousand ; of which 0.11 are outright factorable, the rest mostly bad exponents.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> jurov now has the (enviable?) privilege of determining the likelihood that the call will be exercised, and adjusting his reserves accordingly. << somethinglikethat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> mod6: the baked-in presumption of webtardism is almost insulting << it is insulting, not to us though. think about it : the crab has pincers because in its environment THAT WORKS ; and so does "GET /blog/blog-config.php~". ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. certainly good candidate for s.nsa product list, to be sold anonymously for btc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (does everybody understand why scintillator ~fiber~ is neat, while the commonly-available scintillating plastic blocks are nearly useless for rng ?) << essentially, quantum antenna. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (and happily detect, e.g., neutron flux) << it undermines peace you see. for some definitions of peace which reduces to "usg makes all the war"
mircea_popescu: phf : could a111 answer to !s "string", on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=string ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 03:37 BingoBoingo: The amazing load bearing capacity of the human spine brought to you by Beyonce https://i.sli.mg/gdOUR5.png
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1459989 <<< that looks like a turd with legs. ☝︎
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 5174413344875007990519123187618500139954995264909695897020209972309881454541 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Texas Instruments Inc. <txn@ti.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E978198490CFA7348C9693D979D416842E8189A18EED564723E0B9F2795BB067
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 5174413344875007990519123187618500139954995264909695897020209972309881454541 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Texas Instruments Inc. <txn@ti.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/65AF533625D036E68BEFAD0F3B7E5A4B933DB7487F4108A75235E17C0745BAF8 ☟︎
ben_vulpes: jurov now has the (enviable?) privilege of determining the likelihood that the call will be exercised, and adjusting his reserves accordingly.
ben_vulpes: but this is all kind of moot, because at the end of the day, jurov is simply on the hook for princessnell's shares, should someone with her key ever come along to claim them.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 23:47 hanbot: <jurov> and re:holding s.qntr your concerns are misplaced. No one expressly forbade me to flip/short/margin/whrtever them, then there was gracious donation from princessnell who lost her key cand could not think of any way how to prove her identity otherwise, etc... << err, if "she" lost her key, how'd she prove it was her that lost it?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-30#1459887 << this sits poorly with me too, ftr ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Which of course is all leading up to OMG BITBET MOVEMENT! https://archive.is/oLSmy
BingoBoingo: The amazing load bearing capacity of the human spine brought to you by Beyonce https://i.sli.mg/gdOUR5.png ☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: the baked-in presumption of webtardism is almost insulting
mod6: btw, this snow crash book is pretty good. about 1/2 way through...
mod6: someone is knockin on all the doors alf
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/18PAQRN.txt << lulzy.
asciilifeform: aaaaaaaaaand here's the sorta folk who are hogging the goodz, and hear from their own mouth why: http://www.nucsafe.com/cms/Why+Neutrons/51.html
asciilifeform: (does everybody understand why scintillator ~fiber~ is neat, while the commonly-available scintillating plastic blocks are nearly useless for rng ?)
asciilifeform: it is quite interesting, apparently this thing can be bought ~nowhere.
asciilifeform: usg would rather that folks did not have cheap, low-power geigerz that never wear out
asciilifeform: an inquiry from you, and we may not be able to accept some inquiries depending on the end user and application...'
asciilifeform: 'The scintillating fiber is assigned in article 1 of the Export Trade Control Order as undermining the maintenance of international peace and safety. To export this item, an approval of the Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry of Japan is required, so we need to confirm the end user and application for each sales. We may sell the fibers to you, but we would have to check and confirm the end user and application everytime we have
asciilifeform: 'By 1960... Shannon had retreated. He no longer participated much in the field that he had created, publishing only rarely.'
mircea_popescu: yawell... we got the rss and so on. dun sweat it.
mircea_popescu: eh truck my foot!
asciilifeform: gotta love public toiletnet
asciilifeform: quite the difference!1111
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 02:16 mircea_popescu: anyway. item described reduces to SUBSONIC microphone. which is a major difference.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1459944 << aha, correlates with every passing truck, l0l! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. item described reduces to SUBSONIC microphone. which is a major difference. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i posit that the mesh vibrator thing is ~= throwing dice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually that's the test for good fiber
asciilifeform: 'some sort of noise' is very low bar, actual battlefield rng needs a number of other properties (chiefly, difficulty for the enemy in influencing or predicting the output)
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 00:57 mircea_popescu: the result will be some sort of noise.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1459921 << this setup is equivalent to microphone (the only random element is the vibration of the meshes) ☝︎
mod6: hey that's neat asciilifeform
asciilifeform: (they need hv source, which in turn requires oscillator, which introduces nonrandom signal component; ~and~ tube wears with time)
asciilifeform: pretty much solves the problems from which i refused to use geiger tube in my rng
asciilifeform: (enough events, even indoors, for this)
asciilifeform: end glows blue, to naked eye - constantly
asciilifeform: i toured a lab today where i saw scintillating... ~fiber~.
mod6: no idea that it had any sortof rad level higher than background. thx Mr. P.!
mod6: wow, reading on this now....
mircea_popescu: you can also buy a g-m counter, they're not terribly expensive, lay it on some ceramic tile or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: well, you take a mouse apart, and stick a bunch of layers of tight netting in between the light and the detector element.
mod6: 6 layer mosquito net is good enough defraction? or how's that work?
mircea_popescu: listen, you don't specifically need radioactive decay. you could do something as simple as running a laser bean through six layers of mosquito net.
mod6: err, i was as thinking 56, but hell i dunn
mod6: is there some sortof radioactive decay thing that you've see or used that is worth the money?
mod6: we've discussed a lot of things in here.. have we talked about anything that you can say isn't a total pile of shit as far as a physical random number generator?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-30#1459880 << that thing is from eons ago ! ☝︎
mod6: glad to see phuctor back
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> by now the phuctor rss is actually a major reason to watch this chan. i have nfi how one could be "in crypto/compsec/sysadmin" and NOT want to see the key holes in real time. << the congressional record is reason enough; but with broadcasted ass fuckings, all the more reason indeed Sir.
mod6: <+adlai> mod6: and i say this with greatest regard for alf, but i will probably get more "12step" mileage out of your T-shirt (of the hair variety, sadly, but trimmer than orgmode!) than trb and phuctor, combined << wut? you lost me there amigo.
hanbot: i wouldn't be at all surprised if w/e tranquil pools of the republic are rippled with social engineering attempts
BingoBoingo: Perhaps had key requested jurov say that?