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asciilifeform: oh speaking of these people,
mircea_popescu: lol. i dun think he got time for that, too buys [could have] discovering quantum cold fusion.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently the video that earned her the trigglypuff nickname was entertaining, but I ain't got time for that. Just gotta leave the triggering stuff here for when Hanno reads the logs before his astroturf sessions.
mircea_popescu: all hail the dark lord.
mircea_popescu: maybe their email client is also misbehaving.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i tried this, so far nothing.
asciilifeform: and ditto for the others.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-04 03:29 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 1321909 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Alan Cox <alan@etchedpixels.co.uk>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3B2DC689E312DF7B25F1C5A190A8A7470AA5A605E3FFDAA204E1F3C86B810167
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-04#1462316 << this is not a 32-mirror. i would dearly love to know how the schmuck generated his key. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, the world is too harsh to face without theatre. at least for most bipedals.
mircea_popescu: like any theatre, state necessitates willing suspension of disbelief.
mircea_popescu: the unravelling of the vaccine story recently is rather symptomatic. a society that no longer accepts the "vaccinarnos es cuidarnos entre todos" is, to use proper terminology, ungovernable.
asciilifeform: su was illustration of what happens if you fail to keep the priests in.
mircea_popescu: lest cynicism takes hold.
mircea_popescu: not by public at any rate. but gotta keep THE PRIESTS impressed too!
mircea_popescu: quite. this argument that "oh, never seen" ... guess what ? priceless relics in temples also kept in dark, never seen!
asciilifeform: theatre for the chair-warmers.
asciilifeform: e.g., the astronomically expensive gc/ms poison detectors, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this'd handily explain a buncha things.
mircea_popescu: judge is the demo ; and bureaucrats are the demo ; and so on.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, it is theatre, just, you're not the demo.
mircea_popescu: is what's needed to then force germany to "approve" gpg4win oficially.
asciilifeform: took some digging to even realize that they are a separate concern from the theatre.
BingoBoingo: In other lols Sanders beat Clitler in Indiana. GOP settled their party divide first 111!!!
mircea_popescu: but the fact that there is a "greater good" pretext to force say germany to put them in,
asciilifeform: well the metal arches are theatre
mircea_popescu: and similarly with the "metal detector" security in airports. tis for the cows, not for the metals.
mircea_popescu: aml/kyc idiocy is fed exactly off that.
mircea_popescu: the goal was the same : it gave good basis for the eventual "globalisation", which, without the derpy "peace movement" post nuke detonation would have likely never existed
mircea_popescu: but much like in the case of "metal detectors" in airports, going for about as long, the goal was never THAT.
mircea_popescu: the multi-bn-dollar neutron-detector-at-shipping-interfaces programme, going for well over three decades already, has captured exactly 0 anything.
asciilifeform: (incidentally, geiger tubes in, e.g., train stations, were sop for ~decades~.)
asciilifeform: they are ~specific~ to fissiles.
mircea_popescu: by the time powerful entity sends ddos wave prior to dirty bombs, police's not a useful expense.
mircea_popescu: two people have an argument and one gets really angry, police can fix this. random derp gets overexcited tries to ship smoke detector shavings to ex gf's mother, police can fix this. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the thing sorta implies organization definitionally.
mircea_popescu: not exactly. lafond makes this point, re the difference between a police force and a militia. you can't expect the police to protect you against organised violence. it works entirely and strictly for disorganised violence.
asciilifeform: point was that it is quite trivial, and the whole orchestra is a waste of dough.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: elementarily, anyone intending to mail in ze bomb will ddos the sensors prior
mircea_popescu: very much like, say, a trichinelosis detector. you ~want~ someone somewhere to have these, keep them well oiled and force manufacturers to burn any and all carcasses that come positive.
mircea_popescu: it's one of those.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but even if tomorrow you're the king and queen of earth, you'll be stuck trying to control pu shipments, want it or not.
BingoBoingo: Even shitty graffiti if it persists projects the image "they" aren't in control.
BingoBoingo: Most ways of pricking the beast are sophmoric. Graffiti is sophmoric but they gotta spend to clean it up or they lose face.
BingoBoingo see more the inflicting costs angle. Gotta check out all those alarms.
mircea_popescu: i can appreciate the "information wants to be free" "legalize dope" etc angle, but i dunno what exactly is the idea. anyone seriously intending to administer anything will have a ban on moving plutonium around.
BingoBoingo: Drowning them in noise?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to what end ?
BingoBoingo: "reader oriented" operated by a friendlier variety of spamzors than last ownership group et al.
BingoBoingo: Not on front page yet, but if we all astroturf, they'll prolly surrender and run it.
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 1321909 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Alan Cox <alan@etchedpixels.co.uk>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3B2DC689E312DF7B25F1C5A190A8A7470AA5A605E3FFDAA204E1F3C86B810167 ☟︎
asciilifeform: sooooo here's a thought. perhaps esp. for mircea_popescu. usg luuuvvvvvvs puttin' neutron alarms everywhere. but what if the ... other side... set off 100,001 of them at once, on day x, with, e.g., pocket farnsworth's devices?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: scored some of what appears to be the fiber from earlier thread from this fella. might come in handy at some point.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> indiana sunk him. << Aha, Rush Limbaugh is going to be very mournful tomorrow. He really tempered his Trump support these past few months after he helped birth this incarnation of the Clinton Monster.
asciilifeform: re neutron thread ^^
deedbot: [Qntra] Next US President To Be A Clinton - http://qntra.net/2016/05/next-us-president-to-be-a-clinton/
mircea_popescu: https://ritetag.com/hashtag-stats/bitcoin << and speaking of data miners, check out the wot-esque graph they got going.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-04#1462286<< tru work of art!!! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/trilema << is this better than webirc i wonder ?
Ciphertext: gotcha, had to read it twice to get it, then it clicked
mircea_popescu: Ciphertext please see http://trilema.com/2015/more-factored-rsa-keys-and-assorted-other-considerations/ the final part.
Ciphertext: If so, what implications would that have?
Ciphertext: On the site http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/phuctored what does "Modulus has mirrored low order 32 bits mean?" Does that mean it basically is reflected, like for 8 bits 11011011 would be mirrored?
mod6: which is basically how we ended up with the entire shit-stack we've ended up with today.
mod6: no one should feel bad about doing something the way that it aught to be done. unfortunately, this is not often the case with many things.
mod6: further, i feel like there is a sense of pride that comes from taking the time to do something right, as opposed to doing something quick and dirty.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> there is not an escape from this, nor ought to be. << V, at least to me, seems like the way that things aught to be done. and there are no shortcuts when you're doing the 'right thing' or how something aught to be done.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, he was going on oil for a while now. carly fiorina, srsly ?! that bitch could sunk a blue chip. o wait - she did!
mircea_popescu: there's more kludge that needs to go. such as, internet connectivity.
asciilifeform: same basic type of braindamage at work.
mircea_popescu: keychain was a kludge from end to end. vaguely reminiscent of bitcoin "accounts"
asciilifeform: i expect to see similar reactions, to, e.g., 'p'
asciilifeform: there is not an escape from this, nor ought to be.
asciilifeform: v is somewhat like ada, in that 'ugh too much pain, sweat', 'not for people!1111' etc reaction from virtually everyone you show it to
a111: Logged on 2016-05-04 01:07 mod6: if only they used V.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i'm telling you, 90% of new eulora players are on gpg4win
asciilifeform: but i initially popped it open thinking it'd be a simple port, like, e.g., gimp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it almost deserves to be
a111: Logged on 2016-05-04 00:32 asciilifeform: i also recommend that gpg4win henceforth be referred to as gpg4lose.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-04#1462226 << windows world dood, be thankful it's not all in java and requiring "latest version internet exploder" ☝︎
mod6: if only they used V. ☟︎
mod6: broke my shit, then couldn't get my shit to work until I had to refresh everything.
mod6: guy made a name change to a fucking abstract method that I use from his package.
mod6: especially when it fucks with me like today.
mod6: oh yeah. i have bile coming out of my ears on this shit.
mod6: you have to explicitly tell it to --rebuild-dependencies or whatever the fuck
mod6: so like "foo-1.0-SNAPSHOT" v. "foo-1.1-SNAPSHOT", it'll pull that if you ask it to reload dependencies.
mod6: it just looks to see if there is a newer version number by filename itself in the remote repository, and if so, pulls it.
mod6: well, i guess technically, gradle doesn't even rely on digests at all.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> SHA1 manifest, of course. << lol. i do some shitshoveling at a place that still uses md5 and sha1 at all times.
mod6: needed for the shelf.
mod6: by S. Tucker Taft and Robert A. Duff
asciilifeform: the '12 is published as an addendum to it
asciilifeform: but careful, don't throw out the ~rationale~ for '05
mod6: ok, well, obv we need that shit. lol. just gotta buy a new book now.
asciilifeform: throw out the old crud.
asciilifeform: no adequate threads !
mod6: <+asciilifeform> in other nyooz, my 'ada 2012 ref man.' is here. << that's neat. thought we were leaning towards the '95 standard? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i also recommend that gpg4win henceforth be referred to as gpg4lose. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i am done reading this.