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asciilifeform: it isn't magical in any sense, you and i can do it right now -- e.g., mine an alternate block #300,000 and feed it to a cornered node.
mircea_popescu: anyway, you're right in that the "free world" is significantly impeded in sane / reasonable reaction by the unwarranted, wholly baseless conceit that "all people matter", so they can't go on tv and tell every woman she has a week to find a master after which will be packed on catle ship and auctioned off in iran.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/fP5Ce >> 'Trump’s insistence on channeling Putin’s propaganda may reflect a more permanent and creepier mindset that refuses to see Russia as a foe of the West. If the latter, how far will this go — blocking sanctions? Acceding to Russian aggression? The suspicion that Trump is Putin’s lapdog has cast a shadow over his secretary of state nominee, who is distinguished only by his chumminess with Putin.' << t
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585879 << mats, lemme get this straight, i'm supposed to believe that obummer DIDN'T sign off on every round in that pistol? and exactly why? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the stakes are pretty high, us itself is trying to pivot to an ir middle east. doesn't look like they have enough non-retards in the whole foreign service to pull it off, but hey.
asciilifeform: it still isn't clear to me what'd be lost by considering, e.g., blocks that happened a proper, physical year ago, not-in-rom.
mircea_popescu: except of course there isn't a lot of usfilm agit-footage about how checksum deterred bad white guy.
asciilifeform: well presently trb nodes ~aren't~ operating strictly on 'race to the swiftest', they have the ancient checkpoint thing.
mircea_popescu: it isn't a choice.
ben_vulpes: but that the thing won't lan-mine is abhorrent imho
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585867 << fyi i successfully used this method to get the node somewhere into 200k block height on a airgapped libretto by transferring blocks over rsr232/ZMODEM. couldn't get it any further because started getting weird memory issues, i suspect 1.6gb is not enough.. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: isn't that sanity check "show me a block with a higher diff and lineage back to the genesis block"?
a111: Logged on 2015-06-24 18:15 ascii_field: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: can anyone recall why http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20141218/bitcoin-v0_5_3-rm_checkpoints_41327b9a962e6d27869f4d361d742ab5c7061ede.5.patch didn't make it in ?
ben_vulpes: embarassing as it is that i'm only now finding that trb doesn't solipsistically mine, i did determine that it validates the whole chain.
ben_vulpes: yeah i hadn't seen one. doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: but the discussion wasn't that, it was "rewalk history" bla bla.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585810 << asciilifeform didn't you do a whole run of eatblock? 'deterministic sync'? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: experts also don't have the winner's keen incentive to get rid of the praetorian guard, and permanently.
asciilifeform: (qt, believe or not, does, a standard cpp compiler won't eat raw qt code)
asciilifeform: wx is gnarly but at least doesn't require entire preprocessor!
ben_vulpes: so sqlator q1 is feasible but whatever, don't count on it.
ben_vulpes: produced blocks that it wouldn't validate itself? throw me a bone here
mircea_popescu: somehow this bunch of idiots wants me to believe that a bovine constituency that doesn't give a shit about turned off subway somehow actually goes out and protests the government.
mircea_popescu: this isn't after a fire. this is because... well... the subte employees are protesting.
mircea_popescu: more's the point, notwithstanding we got a reprieve from "get it done by summer", we still don't have actual alternative we're happy with, so... what's the rush.
asciilifeform: true, wouldn't want to knock out the stool from under the gavin until the noose is properly on.
mircea_popescu: it also doesn't work for any individual transaction, just for the whole windows abomination taken together.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can deterministically verify that segwit doesn't create coins without accessing their proprietary binary blob.
mod6: i don't love this feature as it introduces complexity and an edge-case that mig-pilot needs to be aware of in the first place. but i'll consider it based on the idea that the complexity can be contained.
asciilifeform: (which could indeed take you through the entire history of the universe, but chances are -- it won't)
asciilifeform: 0061 size_t n;
asciilifeform: 0060 T* ptr;
asciilifeform: 0056 T* alignup(T* p)
asciilifeform: 0055 template <size_t nBytes, typename T>
shinohai: "How did we get hacked? I just don't understand, employee information was so secure!" http://www.nerc.com/AboutNERC/Resource%20Documents/roster.pdf
asciilifeform: the electoral college thing isn't public
mircea_popescu: "the golden age of all the games suck but we finally don't feel threatened by pgp anymore"
mircea_popescu: are you fucking kidding me ? bad media is becoming deeply universalized ; i made the mistake to try and watch "black mirror" because omsone said here, it's TERRIBLE from a cinematic point of view (the idiots can't act, can't block, can't speak, can't anyfucking thing ; the whole thing's a droned on ted talk, which is the point) and now i see it everwhere. last night tried to watch film with harvey keitel and michael cain, it
mircea_popescu: much like some people can't tell blacks apart, i can't really distinguish between https-and-unicode flavouring #1 and #2
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585532 << it wouldn't be so astonishing if in the process of 'heightening the contradictions', academitards who go against party line end up with revoked degrees. this was sop in the last reich, why not this one. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 13:42 Framedragger: but also asciilifeform's; and if you google phuctor it's.. clear? hm. this goes back to the discussion of kindergarten kids stamping their name everywhere, cf. kids who don't
mircea_popescu: it's like the girl that naturally fucks on the first date, and demands to be fucked in the ass. yes they can exist. no they don't figure in anyone's expectations.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how software works. there's a very clear denied middle : it is either the product of a ~lone individual~, or else of a corporation. there is no multiple-people-work-without-usg-foundations-and-crap in most people's minds, because there isn't such a thing is most people's experience.
Framedragger: but also asciilifeform's; and if you google phuctor it's.. clear? hm. this goes back to the discussion of kindergarten kids stamping their name everywhere, cf. kids who don't ☟︎
phf: unix also had a lot more of an organic decentralized approach, beyond mans i don't think anybody actual read anything on the subject of unix (a few key books, like k&r or steven's on tcpip). pretty sure people would just grab the source and learn by exploration
mircea_popescu: as much as we might like the (self-unaware) lords involved, it can't be seriously argued that mit actually did much in cs.
mircea_popescu: but hey, idiocy doesn't hurt ; if it did wikipedia'd be larger than silk road.
mircea_popescu: anomie is NOT "a condition in which society provides little moral guidance to individuals". for one thing, because it's not a ~condition~, it's a situation. no, these aren't the same thing. for tyhe other, becaue individuals provide guidance for society, not the other fucking way around. the "individuals who are guided by society are called children.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger if they weren't dipshits it might even matter.
phf: hmm if chatter wasn't just randomly spewing scripture it would be mildly entertaining if we had two competing fundamentalists with matching knowledge of their respective books
mircea_popescu: isn't this quite literally the definition of the term among the illiterate yet contemporaneous monkeys ?
mircea_popescu: alternatively it should be standard defense of every "hacker" : dude, i didn't hack anything, i simply exploited code to release information
mircea_popescu: actually no, lessee. a try's about seven seconds, and then if something's found that's about another 10. you don't always find something, but if skilled enough you mostly do, so say you gotta make 4 steps a minute. each step calls for a random radian value, which meaningfully is about 9 bits but nevertheless comes as a double which iirc is 64 bits. so you're doing 256 bits ie 4 bytes/minute.
Framedragger: (only worx for URLs that had already been archived on archive.is (doesn't matter if by scriba or not))
danielpbarron: the randomness is generated and used strictly on the user's end. the server doesn't care which direction you walk
danielpbarron: the default method is 'line' which doesn't use rand(). but i've recently added a method which uses rand() to choose which direction to turn before moving to the next /explore attempt
mircea_popescu: just, wasn't the stated problem.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: don't think that's nonsense - it's simply introducing a bias into choosing "which direction - left or right - should i prefer", no? or do you mean that it's not "realistic" and would look stupid? (maybe...)
mircea_popescu: yeah there is that, in theory. in practice, you can't implement it anyway, walk/run toggle is all you got.
danielpbarron: i don't see how moving forward more or less after having turned a random angle would change the overall pattern
danielpbarron: no, run walk wouldn't do it. have to get a random number from 0 to pi and then randomly add pi to it based on a given chance
mircea_popescu: it doth test things doesn't it :D
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1585207 << hehe pretty nice, like a monk scribing down book patch. btw danielpbarron, your Pi constant has a typo: you have 3.1415926545, should be 3.1415926535 (don't ask, i like memorizing useless stuff) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 13:25 mircea_popescu: this didn't seem worth the evaluation so i passed it) a "pyramid of science" pecking order may well be involved, in the sense that "oh, we learned null sets in kindergarten" and phf's english, while formally fine, does not actually serve him well enough to convey this difference i don't suspect. g) what's "das man" ? h) how did ph
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 13:25 mircea_popescu: id they said nothing or this ? c) the principle "if you're going to say i'm a dog explain why!" is sound, but this is sadly not always possible. an eminent example of a class of cases when this isn't possible is when someone says something in direct and seeming wilful contradiction of logic. d) statements about you by others are statements about the world-you object as perceived by them not about the i-you subject as perceive
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1584817 << could very well be that the habits of speech in RU and TX are so different as to cause severe friction. same effect happens between TX and just about anywhere in US, too. wasn't confused about what "lowered into pederasty" meant though. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (well, could, in this implementation doesn't bother to though)
shinohai: Can't have one without rest
asciilifeform: and it isn't just 'the vpatches are available'
asciilifeform: shinohai: that hieroglyph doesn't display here...
mircea_popescu: "you mean the rng tool can't even keep fucking time ?" "aha"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think he means you didn't put your name on it
asciilifeform: also if the entire thing isn't bloody obvious, then i have nfi even
mod6: Eh, I don't even think I like my own idea.
mircea_popescu: (in any case the reason that the two haven't merged sooner was that in my head business (ie, dealings in between people) and code (ie, dealings in between machines) were fundamentally separated. but i'm very interested in whether this notion actually stands to scrutiny.)
asciilifeform: this wasn't funkenstein's thing was it.
mircea_popescu: this needs a proper discussion, and the exact reforms/solutions aren't evident yet.
mircea_popescu: mod6 the only q is whether this isn't redundant ; and if it isn't, whether the utility doesn't belie bad design etc.
asciilifeform: there are no;t.
mircea_popescu: the part where "please don't make me turn ascii into tarballs" is sensible, just, lets see what he actually is talking about.
phf: mod6: we have the 3rd party signed tarballs, that we can't convert to v because of the binary problem. i think asciilifeform doesn't want to fallback to doing the same with own releases. wants to solve binary problem, or find some alternative solution. there's also been a lot of sentiment here against using sha/sig combination. "sign the thing itself" etc.
Framedragger: (but i think i got it why you don't want binary tarball - it'd sure be nice to be able to host a plaintext package, with v sigs etc right there. hm. but then why deedbot the *whole* thing - why not deedbot only hashes of tarball version of webthing. make webthing available to view, but also for those who wish to verify via deedbot, too, make tarball available. not pretty, but worx for *now*.)
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 18:10 asciilifeform: 'Can I re-seal after breaking the center? No. A permanent change is made inside the flash memory of the processor.' << which i can't remove and replace with identical-looking one, containing same procedure, exactly why...?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> v should abolish the idiocy of 'signed tarballs' << it doesn't have to. so far, we don't even have anything of the kind. just vpatches + sigs. 'tis all.
mircea_popescu: if you've internally decided that you won't ship the items until "v demolishes the idiocy of tarballs" we have a problem.
mircea_popescu: not for the part where you don't like the solution.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tarballs ain't vgenesis
asciilifeform: this isn't the only problem
Framedragger: isn't that their problem, not yours?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ---- except that i can't because apparently we have 0 working infrastructure for actually releasing v code << i disagree with this. what we have, and trb isn't the only one who's done this, is; you make a mirror, and then v.pl deals with this. you grab all the vpatches you want, and the sigs from people you trust, and you place them in v, then you do what you wanna do.
Framedragger: sure, this isn't a logistical solution, but you'll be able to point to a timestamped-and-signed checksum.
asciilifeform: ---- except that i can't because apparently we have 0 working infrastructure for actually releasing v code
asciilifeform: i don't see any of the available options as 'fit' !!
mod6: then this is a question for trinque; he'll know if deedbot can or can't deal with .sig files.
asciilifeform: mod6: v doesn't deal in clearsigned anythings
mircea_popescu: yeh sadmods can't be accessed. maybe just take the loi
asciilifeform: if i paginate it -- won't be
mircea_popescu: and finally re http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1584334 : this isn't an "error" - there is perfectly good reason for the bias (bias is not automatically erroneous!) to flow this way : the event ~happened in the world~. when the event happens in the head, girl a sees girl b feel like a slut, decides girl b is drunk ; girl a sees girl a feel like a slut, decides she is a slut. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not that you won't die.
mircea_popescu: but this aside, the only reason you're "better" ie different is that you don't know.