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mircea_popescu: after all, industrialized intolerance is how i made my living, back in the day.

mircea_popescu: phf i also cultivate it deliberately, because i believe it is (in my case, not necessarily for everyone) a most valuable skill.

mircea_popescu: but as you were typing that, i was thinking "We fucking need an expert gfx card wizard to debinary that shit already"

asciilifeform: iirc i tried even this, some yrs back, got a box that bombs randomly erry hr or so

phf: tech. i'm (and ascii) on the other hand are fully imersed in the pain points, you kind of stop feeling them. ☟︎

phf: first time i spent two months in india, swiming and eating and pretty much nothing else, i had to perform some very minor operation for the banking contract i was doing at the time: took me an entire day just to get through a 5 minute process, and i cursed and hated the entire time, because the steps were pointless, unnatural, and clearly designed to inflict pain on the operator. i suspect this is how mp feels when dealing with modern

mircea_popescu: i cheat ; as per alf "is a toilet" magics, i just use nvidia's binaries.

a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 19:17 mircea_popescu: for contrast, i recently wasted an entire fucking day with the following bit of gymnastics : http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-15.log.html#t20:35:50

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-19#1836529 << ftr i haven't in many yrs succeeded in getting 3d gpu running on linux box, so mircea_popescu is ahead of me there ☝︎

asciilifeform: i operate these, it's how i eat.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess. it is called a ~damage~ file after all, rite.

mircea_popescu: i'll note that everthying the republicans deliver builds like a fucking charm, be it ffa, avetronics or what have you. i've never had a problem of this sort inside the walls.

mircea_popescu: i do not pose as expert gymnast in any sense ; and yes this caliber turd is somewhat common in unixworld altogether. but still, holy hell, fucking gymnastics.

phf: correct, though now, dealing with say gentoo i suspect that olympic gymnastics are a requirement to deal with the mess in general.

lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-07-15 20:35:50: <mircea_popescu> so the problem consisted of my running through the whole list of http://www.eulorum.org/Ubuntu requisite packages list. libgl1-mesa-dev (which ... isn't even fucking needed, i am now running eulora without it) fucked my video drivers (in a strange halfway manner, prolly fucked some userland wrapper somewhere). reinstalling the nvidia originals fixed it.

mircea_popescu: for contrast, i recently wasted an entire fucking day with the following bit of gymnastics : http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-15.log.html#t20:35:50 ☟︎

phf: i think an insignificant amount of time, ignoring compilation time, but then at the time i knew exactly where to cut, so to speak, and how

phf: i haven't, i haven't built it in about 2 years, but then i haven't installed it on macs in about two years either

phf: mircea_popescu: on mac you can use e.g. pkgsrc which is a portable portage from netbsd project, which i have on all my machines. posix things of arbitrary complexity build from it

mircea_popescu: i expect there is, yes.

phf: macports or homebrew which are portage versions for apple. at least macports can still be used to build xquartz from scratch. i've not personally tried that in a long time, so it's possible that there's serious wrecker situation there. ☟︎

phf: mircea_popescu: the upstream X is already a mess of libraries, substantial gymnastics are required to build it on any system without assistance of something like gentoo's portage. in case of apple things are typically distributed as a binary, which is what i linked above. xquartz.org also has the sources, that are patched versions of original freedesktop code. one could theoretically build that by hand, but typically one would use

mircea_popescu: i read "substantial gymnastics" in the sense of, needed to c) above.

phf: mircea_popescu: well, the linked bit is a binary, since the bit that i disputed from asciilifeform is "substantial gymnastics"

mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : should i double click that on an apple, i'd find a bundle so that a) if i exclude all non-text files i can then b) use at least one specified version of a compiler chain i can build in same manner so as to c) produce object files which then d) run on my system.

phf: xquartz builds with an llvm for sure, it built with a gcc recently, it's quite likely that it still builds with gcc, since it's a direct fork of freedesktop version (but then it's not clear what crazy things fd put into X11 proper upstream), you can find a range of vintage that'll build all the way back to 10.4, but i'm not sure if you can build what i linked on e.g 10.4 specifically. the bulk of code there is combination of posix AND

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these dun run on i-*, they're for the intel macs

asciilifeform: ( i have the box mainly to run -- yes -- microshit vm's ... )

asciilifeform: i'ma readily admit that phf is better crapple wrangler than asciilifeform .

mircea_popescu: phf it's a legitimate pov, seriously now. why should i have to follow the (closed source! very tenuous! and burdensome!) process apple chose ?

a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 13:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phakt, i replicated phuctor on a mac lappy (it happened to be the one in the room with sufficient free disk) and it works -- except that apparently gdb no longer works on latest crapple os

asciilifeform: say i dun wannt 'use app store'.

a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 12:47 asciilifeform: phf: in commercial work i use things that would turn the strongest stomach. now, as always, speaking of civilized work.

phf: i don't know where you're getting this info.

asciilifeform: ( tho theoretically, crapple has departed far enuff from posix that it perhaps is ripe for a cygwin-like item . but i dun much care for rescuing crapple drowners, either )

asciilifeform: phf: i in particular won't sign winblowz patches out of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-27#1830228 principle. but if d00d wants to -- he can, his own v branch, i have nfi why he wants to , but it'll sit there, for archaeologists. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 15:11 PeterL: while I have the mic: I did end up fixing the problem http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-27#1830121 , see http://petermlambert.blogspot.com/2018/07/vdiffshadefineswapvpatch.html

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-19#1836372 << fyi, i appreciate the hackery, but the relevant code is already in the vtools http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools_vdiff_sha/tree/vtools/src/system.h#L145 as I mentioned in logs http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-27#1830179 the problem is that byteswapping is non-standard. each libc implements its own. more importantly __bswap64 that PeterL is using is an internal inline function, that exists in ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why.

asciilifeform: i suspect 'bio failure' is pretty abstract concept to fella who wakes up and counts the porches etc

a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 19:55 mircea_popescu: or is it going to be the case that you'll go through the motions of pretending interest in whatevert topic du jour and i'm not going to say anything because i';m lazy ? what's the thinking ?

asciilifeform: i suspect moar http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-09#1092789 than 'doctor' ☝︎

mircea_popescu: and also the "oh but mp, that's not the EXACT specific narrowly defined line" isn't permissible either. a "doctor" who can't equalize a molar transform is no fuckinfg doctor, i don't care how he thinks chemistry "is not properly part of doctorhood"

asciilifeform: i dun even recall him having a 'field of choice', iirc he lives by renting out some inherited hovels

a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 20:04 mircea_popescu: dude, just call. nevermind the "questions" and rest of the crap. spend 1/10 of the time you frittered away already "on" this to call, write up your report, "i, pete d, aspiring to one day lordship, spent 8 hours today cold calling. i managed a total of 76 calls, which would get me fired from the average call center but hey, i'm new. these 76 calls went to so and so, here's the script, here's why i ammended it and when, here's

BingoBoingo: I am unsure if I have been mosquito bit here. I don't think they like the bus fumes

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: here in mosquito hell, all i gotta do is to walk three metres out of front door to rubbish pin, and 5-6 welts ☟︎

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: as far as I can tell the bee sting variety, but I have seen a couple people with sizeable welts returning to the hostel from there after day trips

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-19#1836377 << I have not yet experienced August through November, but I see no reason to rule out December through February. That was best weather. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: briefly thought about doing something about it... but then, i think i'd rather just wait for PeterL to move or w/e.

mircea_popescu: of course, i can't load blogspot "blogs" now that http://trilema.com/2018/how-to-remove-usgalphabet-usually-called-google-by-the-jews-pantsuit-from-your-web-experience/#selection-287.67-291.1

mod6: ok, will do. if i even do, they're probably from projects that are not TMSR~ anyway. so who cares.

mod6: Hah, I dunno, maybe I'm making that up.

mod6: Ah, alright. Just thought I'd bring it up as most "CHANGELOG"s that you see out there grow upwards.

mircea_popescu: mod6 i always assumed down.

mod6: After looking at PeterL's blogpost, was curious if there had been any consideration into if a manifest file should grow up or down (i.e. newest change first, or newest change last in the file). This is purely a cosmetic thing, I suppose it would be up to the author too. Probably why trinque didn't touch on this in the post either http://trinque.org/2018/06/02/v-manifest-specification/

a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 15:03 asciilifeform: fwiw i never grasped why deedbot permits !!rate out of chan. but possibly trinque & mircea_popescu explained this at some point, i simply could not find in l0gz.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-19#1836364 << i'm not even sure by now. honestly i don't seem to ever want to use it, myself, but i also see no problem in it per se. ratings are personal after all, and not all persons of the republic are necessarily just as public. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: we've just been supplying the string because tradition, or dunno. i suppose much like venetian merchants dressed the house pets. dun mean naked woman about the house is a bug (even though the 80s retard, before i/we came about and fucked their "trtaditions" right in the ass, would have suspected such_

asciilifeform: i have no position on this in either direction. q was re 'bug or not' strictly.

a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 14:59 asciilifeform: ( i am at a loss re why anybody would do this, but whoknows )

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-19#1836361 << i dunno that a comment's that important. basically it's the "string for allcomers" portion of wot mechanics. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: Mocky better go out of crazy season anyway, i know of no place that benefits from heavy tourist load.

a111: Logged on 2018-06-27 15:16 PeterL: hi, I was just trying to build the vtools, and I ran into this problem: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AuLgQ/?raw=true

PeterL: while I have the mic: I did end up fixing the problem http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-27#1830121 , see http://petermlambert.blogspot.com/2018/07/vdiffshadefineswapvpatch.html ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: fwiw i never grasped why deedbot permits !!rate out of chan. but possibly trinque & mircea_popescu explained this at some point, i simply could not find in l0gz. ☟︎

asciilifeform: PeterL: if he actually issued the uncommented ratings , then psychiatric q for shinohai . if not -- bugological q for trinque . is all i got.

asciilifeform: ( i am at a loss re why anybody would do this, but whoknows ) ☟︎

Mocky: phf, good info, thanks. looks like cheapest flight in august is bouncing around $1250 to $1350, haven't seen the $1150 sighting again. If I push it out past labor day looks like $950

phf: new york flights are the baseline to go by, they tend to be the cheapest, and have direct flights by foreign airlines to places i usually go to, so for example istanbul is $1,2k right now, drops to $900 in august, in early september it's the regular price of $700 or so

phf: this is summer u.s. vacation prices, personally i'm not traveling until end of august, when $1900 flights to anywhere suddenly(!!1) drop to $900

Mocky: ok, yeah I see it

BingoBoingo: Mocky: I am in Pocitos near the datacenter.

Mocky: copa's 2700 or more for any time in august, from what I can see

Mocky: oh that sux, i'd totally do a layover in miami

mircea_popescu: kinda how i fly. used to have old world all mapped out, "and here';s the schnitzel place we stop for in frankfurt, and here's the,..."

Mocky: i need to find one with 23hrs in cancun and 23 hours in jamaica, lol

Mocky: man, these flights are a hoot. looks like getting below $1900 requires 2 to 3 long layovers. cheapest one i see $1153 9 hours in JFK, 16hrs Bogota

asciilifeform: i saw in museum an example, old iron pipe rightly wrapped in leather.

asciilifeform: funnily enuff i associate korea with art of medieval gunnery -- motherland of the infamous 'leather cannon', as deadly to artillerist as to enemy

Mocky: i left and never went back. i should have know by how nice the place was. too nice.

Mocky: last year doc referred me to specialist for one specific issue. specialist ordered 2 dozen labs, bone density scan, ultrasound, said come back in 2 weeks. came back, said looks all good but want another test. went to lab, blood draw chick whips out 7 vials for blood collection. I said, let me see what labs were ordered, was 4 dozen more!

mircea_popescu: i just bought 1% topical novocaine for the asking.

BingoBoingo: I've been splitting bread rolls with a utility knife and making dulce de leche, cream cheese, and jelly sandwiches

Mocky: really? i guess I shouldn't be surprised

BingoBoingo: Tres Cruces is a fun place to go to chat cute girls but... it the only barrio with traffic issues, far from the water, and the place I most frequently run into dyed hair activist sorts (the national bus terminal seems to be irresistable bait for the fifth column)

BingoBoingo: <Mocky> BingoBoingo, I've just read through your real estate posts, what was your best source of info re: rentals, was it agencies? << The best big picture survey is on "Mercado Libre" From there you ask and poke

mircea_popescu: anyway, i shall bbl!

mircea_popescu: i thought on blog tbh.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman neither of those are it, i guess ima embark on a re-read expedition, it's discussed somewhere 2015ish pretty sure

mircea_popescu: but i suspect it's in the vein of "a lot of the utility of sledgehammer comes from there being all these abandoned warehouses to loot" "well... how about you organised things better, then no sledgehammers"

mircea_popescu: i've been thinking a lot about this since discussions re how mining bot should be configured in eulora.

mircea_popescu: i suspect a (large) part of the problem is the temptation to stuff ad-hoc scripting langs in the cmd line ;

asciilifeform: observe http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch4_ffacalc#L97 mechanism, i fix a max length of param apriori, and routine will explicitly and pompously end the world if luser insists on trying to stuff it further.

mircea_popescu: i meant "long" in the cmdline sense.

asciilifeform: i banned it in my proggy. because i don't like what it leads to.

mircea_popescu: i dunno that this is equal to using a heap

asciilifeform: Mocky: it is of course possible to do what mircea_popescu describes, the gnat folx did it by making use of heap. however i banned the heap. because i wish to be able to reason apriori re memory usage.

mircea_popescu: no, because machine memory is alwayus the limit. all compiler has to do is simply say the (correct) "sorry, i can;t help you here", and allocate all available memory for stack.

mircea_popescu: no, i understand that part. what i don't understand is why is it a problem.