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lobbes: mod6: ty for the reminder. I may as well renew now. plox to invoice for another quarter
mod6: (I'll also be making another for July)
mod6: jurov: Is it ok with you then (or easy enough for you to do) if I do: !!invoice jurov [btc_amt_for_june] June Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colocation service. #foundation #pizarro
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well, rather changes the model from "What foundation got" to "what foundation did". i really don't see that's such a loss.
ben_vulpes: sacrifices the public verifiability of "all foundation funds in addrx" but i don't know that's so valuable; foundation addr could just be the proverbial tip hat with some change in it and the curious are directed to read statements
mircea_popescu: i dunno why you can't just you know, use the account. if you're worried about mixage have #hashtags in the invoice, then you see them in the ledger, this invoice is #foundation and whatrever.
jurov: i'm fine with whatever mod6 decides
trinque: I dunno why you guys are making it complicated; you can either deposit to mod6's account, or he can invoice you
a111: Logged on 2018-07-26 00:01 mod6: trinque: Question for ya regarding how jurov can make a payment for The Foundation's hosting fees at Pizarro: Is there a way that I can get an outside BTC address to give him that would go directly to my deedbot wallet? I see that I can do `!!deposit amount`, which might work, but it could be days before a payment is made. Is this a problem? Thoughts?
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-26#1837766 << or i can pay the invoices directly...but can jurov !!pay deedbot invoices issued to mod6? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: lobbes_sans_znc ok but i mean, it's been two weeks! ☟︎
lobbes_sans_znc: Got derailed early this week with http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-25.log.html#t05:49:24, but that backlog has been cut down, so I'll be refocusing back to auctionbot '2.0'
lobbes_sans_znc: mircea_popescu: Currently trying to diagnose why my logbot install is not sending from 'outbox' table. Looking I'll need to learn some basic emacs in order to determine -where- it is failing here. See also thread-fragment  >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837189 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 22:35 lobbes: asciilifeform: can haz. I'ma move this up to item #1 in hopper
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i gather, these folx inhabit a self-complete leprosorium, with 'rational', non-draconic 'explanation' for erry possible misfortune
mircea_popescu: seems to me pretty plain & evident which case is run my "i'm ugly but don't see why this means i get no voice" "#metoo" and which is not.
mircea_popescu: luxuries few enjoy, you know, the retort "ask your mother who i am" readily available for any "who are you" inquiries and such.
asciilifeform: 'what dragon, it was cosmic rays' i imagine.
mircea_popescu: as long as i've not turned out the dole, it'll sit an pretend like it runs the world.
asciilifeform: 'You clearly perceive immutability as Bitcoin's most important aspect, but others feel that decentralisation is the more important quality ... I don't know how you expect to maintain a decentralised system when the only participants are the limited number of fruitcakes running the 0.5.4 client' << gold.
mircea_popescu: i like how "crazed fundamentalist" is how the pantsuit says "people smarter than me" nowadays.
spyked: ^ ftr, I'll be away starting tomorrow for about a week. I'll use this key during the interval.
mod6: I didn't say it made sense, just that's what was done before.
mod6: ah, fair point, i gotta figure out what the discount would be on a year-contract might be.
mod6: *nod* was just hoping to find that btc/fiat price. I never did find it. Roughly, I think the price was about $6800 when it would have transpired. But I'll give others a chance to chime on this before I make a June invoice for The Foundation. ☟︎
trinque: (when I start expiring them, will announce)
mod6: I have pulled up BTC/USD chart of Bitstamp (no particular reason I picked this exchange) between June 1st and June 30th. I can see that the price was roughly about $6800 per BTC on that day. Unless anyone chimes in very soon about what the actual price point was for the month of June, is anyone opposed to me using this rate?
mod6: re price point for June, I can see that this wire was sent on or around June 12th: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-19#1826769 ☝︎
mod6: The Bitcoin Foundation will make a payment for June, but I need to determine what the price point was for the month of June. I'm going to dig through the logs to see what I can find, but if anyone can help me out in this capacity please let me know. Thank you.
mod6: ben_vulpes jurov BingoBoingo : I do not believe The Bitcoin Foundation was ever invoiced for colocation services for The Foundation's one machine at Pizarro for the month of June. And thusly, no amount was shown on the Foundation's June 2018 statement.
mod6: trinque: Question for ya regarding how jurov can make a payment for The Foundation's hosting fees at Pizarro: Is there a way that I can get an outside BTC address to give him that would go directly to my deedbot wallet? I see that I can do `!!deposit amount`, which might work, but it could be days before a payment is made. Is this a problem? Thoughts? ☟︎
jurov: sure. i couldn't reproduce this
asciilifeform: jurov: any gpg bug , even in the sad 2.x , is potentially very interesting. i'd like to learn what happened .
a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 20:37 asciilifeform: currently i'm curious re why jurov's eater barfed
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837291 i don't know either, only found this barf in the log: ☝︎
esthlos: ok, seems like I was overindexing on "will"
mircea_popescu: i thought alf did.
mircea_popescu: esthlos the problem is that it's neither dense nor sparse. and i dunno how we can proceed. moreover, i suspect goedel says we can not proceed.
esthlos: no, though I love watching those bastards zip around and hunt
mircea_popescu: (and by "select group" above i meant "group of threads/"ideal objects sorted in trees" more properly speaking. not groups of people. this sadly isn't at all evident from context, but i caught it on re-read. half the time though, it IS "evident" on the basis of cousins six removed)
esthlos: you know, I was in fiat job today, and I realized how badly I needed a global namespace for threads. no wonder no one get anything done
esthlos: keeping the summaries allowe me to track the threads of implications. i have nfi how people manage otherwise. though my rote memory sux
mircea_popescu: most (private) attempts to do what you're doing i know of died the death of the look-behead.
esthlos: I see. yeah, following the references, reading the trilema articles, etc. are half the work of reading the logs. and when skipped, render the logs opaque
mircea_popescu: well, alf's oft peculiar assumption set isn't what i had in mind when discussing information density. but instead, two aspects : on one hand, that the amount of learned refrences is staggering even for academic discourse (the academitards cheat, by selecting a very narrow set of possible reference points and agreeing on it in advance) ; and then the more one knows, the more things unfold, exactly in the manner i end up watchi
mircea_popescu: apparently i don't even need to run it for this judgmental box to have an oppinion on my skillz.
mod6: ok asciilifeform, get some sleep. I'm about to do the same. we can pick it up tomorrow.
mod6: Can't hurt to have that hot-spare. I quite like the idea.
mod6: last point here: if UY3 goes into production, I think we'll just buy another machine as insurance.
asciilifeform: mod6: let's make this tomorrow, i'm about to fall down, gotta sleep
mod6: oh. alright, the price that I invoiced Mr. Popescu for correct tho right (what we came up with on the ~12th)
mircea_popescu: i dunno wanna do anything with it tomorrow
mod6: I'm gonna be around a bit, but we can always talk about what you wanna do with Dulap tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: that's why it'll work fine. seems to me it creates a symbol when asked, but only checks once !!v'd. since i've not done that yet, it didn't matter you hadn't yet !!v'd atthye time i !!pay-i'd.
mircea_popescu: if i understand the mechanics correctly it'll work fine.
mod6: anyway, sorry about that, it took me a few minutes to get the invoice processed. not sure if it let you pay that invoice before I did the whole !!v thing.
mircea_popescu: lol. aaanyways, i've no problem with the three cents, go ahead an' invoice.
mod6: mircea_popescu: um, I actually don't know what was factored in for the whole year. my guess is that one may have had a discount for paying a whole year in advance. where this number has a bit of a higher margin for month-to-month.
mircea_popescu: i dun recall, did you ever include the rationale, past "ben and i worked out" ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 go ahead an' invoice. i recall now seeing something like this b4 but no invoice either. ☟︎
mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Ben and I worked out a prorated amount for UY3 for the month of July. It comes to a total of 19 days, which will amount to: 0.03542985 ☟︎
mod6: I am hoping to get invoices for July out in the 48 hours.
mod6: This will be the price used when determining invoicing this month. I am working with / have been working with ben to get all of these settled.
mod6: All, one thing that I didn't know that I even had to do, was publish the price at which the this months auction for pizarro took place. It all transpired on July 10th, and the price that was used was $6800. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: oblig su joak : division commander notices that maxim gun emplacement has fallen silent. he walks over , 'comrade gunner, why is your maxim silent' gunner : 'comrade lieutenant, i've run through my belt' lieutenant : 'BUT YOUR ARE A COMMUNIST!' ... the maxim promptly begins to chatter again !
mircea_popescu: in fairness, that's more in the vein of "well... i got this here chunk, but hard to tell what it actually is, bring me a selection of hammers to hit it with see if it sings."
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:09 mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?
asciilifeform: right, i dun disagree
mircea_popescu: i expect it was more along the lines of "you manage yours, i'll manage mine, tyvm."
asciilifeform: it went approx like this, iirc some time in 2016 : asciilifeform : 'if quality slavegurlz can be trained to do anything , mircea_popescu couldja spare 1 or 2 for ada battallion ' mircea_popescu : 'hell no, why would i waste any on such a thing; what next, i will ask asciilifeform to do field work detail in their place ? ' ☟︎
asciilifeform exhausted the current allotment of cycles to dredge up the $thread , perhaps will turn up later when i remember the correct hooks
mod6: I appreciate the advise here. The management end here has to get better.
mod6: *nod*. The file I've got in front of me is a good start to such a reoccring information passing. It's genereated dozens of questions from me; once I have them answered, I'll send it around. This will also help BB get up to speed on what is what early.
mod6: yeah, forgive me. i'm just getting up to speed on all of the particularities of what is going on here. I only ask ben to confirm because alf said earlier that it expired at the end of the month.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i saw two the past hour and i recall at leasta coupla yest which is why i said.
mod6: anyway, I believe you can re-image starting: 2018.08.20 00:00:00
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ty BingoBoingo . mod6 plox to confirm exact time. << according to the notes about the accounts that I received last night from ben_vulpes, his rockchip is rented through August 19th.
asciilifeform: ( and iirc we already have a thread in the l0gz where mircea_popescu 'they could! be trained to do technical works but i would not waste prime chix on soul-rotting butugychag' , so no particular reason to review unless mircea_popescu feels like )
asciilifeform: i'ma have to take mircea_popescu's word for it re the diff b/w the 2 chix
mircea_popescu: if i take http://trilema.com/2018/it-came-out/ cutie for a sea trip and it has the misfortune of coming to life 500 miles out, it'll still fly over the ocean looking. and so must you, because until you're dead you don't know you're dying.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the nigerians were looking for a stupid. there's a fundamental difference between self-limiting and self-expanding things ; and i propose the nigerians aren't a relevant model at all.
mircea_popescu: if i can select one usable nude floorwasher in 250k imperial "accounts", then probably so could you* (*conceivably, you don't want nude floorwashers, but ~necessarily~ it doesn't matter what you want, the foregoing applies)
asciilifeform: i was speaking of the 'the offensively stupid poor. The costs of the strategic mistake of dealing with them' item
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:09 mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?
mircea_popescu: moreover, these are different items. the chick with the emoji and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-24#1837516 are not the same. i don't expect you to care about the difference, but i do. to me it's meaningful, and in the end that's all it takes, yes ? exactly mirror case of the mats discussion above. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read the 'how things have changed' piece and from the opening 'Six years ago that was even correct ; but meanwhile consider' expected a 'seawater uranium mining nao +ev' but turns out nope ; moar hieroglyphic sluts ? or what am i missing
asciilifeform: ^ 1st time i've seen historic firing squad clip ~with scrolling credits~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: controlled techno-regress (e.g. in this case, from alphabets to hieroglyphs) is a perennial obsession among the jwz folx , the same people want to mandate earth latrines instead of watercloset, BingoBoingo's butane cycle fridge , etc. notion being, i suspect, 'wind back the clock to when we mattered'
mircea_popescu: i don't suspect she'd be in the slightest malicious ; but i also don't expect she ever controlled a box. for all i know it's an open relay.
mircea_popescu: cuz i thought the idea was that there's some security concerns.
mod6: mircea_popescu: I don't see any problem with it as long as it's all paid up and we can you or them directly for it.
mircea_popescu: i mean, "my computer was updating" level of windowsity, 0 expectation of any kind of clean process.
mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu will unrate, i suspect the point is made and i really don't give that much of a shit.
mircea_popescu: fuck me, i'm ruining your shit aren't i.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would i. strikes me a lot like "breaking up". who the fuck does that, what, i'm monogamous now ?!
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 09:13 ben_vulpes: "i was wrong, and the new piece lives at XXX" didn't pass muster or what
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-24#1837479 << fwiw i've never deleted on my www ( tho i do have several articles marked 'this is obsolete, see $neweritem' ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-24#1837472 << fwiw d00d updated his article; tho i admit i'm still puzzled ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "i am the guy who was going to go to the republica oriental but then went to rural oklahoma instead and 2018 is the year i explained nothing about this on my blog".