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lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503490 << indeed. the whole "pledge to de-schedule" thing is meaningless, as well. Even if happened, it would have ~0 effect on the legal status of the stuff. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: granted this may just as well be me being patently insane.
mircea_popescu: you gotta, it was in ru in the 90s just as well as in ro and so on.
phf: i have hard time keeping track of when i have various appointments, so i use an external "agenda" app. i'd be as well served by a paper calendar
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 20:47 phf: i use a psion as an organizer, and i still can't get used to the fact that it looks ~good~ in direct sunlight. like it's some amazing novel technology
mircea_popescu: and as its survival is actually its only paramount value (recall george costanza in the fire scene ? "without leaders we'd all be lost! i had to survive" - life as supreme value perversely translates to, perpetuation of socialism state at expense of all life), it WILL at some point spontaneously recrystalize from "modern democracy" socialism to national socialism.
trinque: but seems to always be considered as leviathan
mircea_popescu: can just as well exist as "fascist" version of socialism.
mircea_popescu: everything is a possibility that wasn't visible as one. the only things that never happen are the perceived alternatives.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun see that capitulation as a possibility.
mircea_popescu: "how much would you pay me for information that prevents destruction of $1mn worth of materiel ?" us army : "3% of total damage as evaluated by us" ru army, in general "150% of maximal damage" and on the day before invasion, up to 1mn% of same.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:28 trinque: I criticize "USG" as a category; it barely defines anything
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno if you recall buterin's humble beginnings as a "bitcoin magazine" gofer ?
asciilifeform: even as a one-of-a-kind handmade thing
asciilifeform: you could try to locate one of the laptops they worked with (qi was sold as an after-market add-on thing) but they weren't much to write home about.
asciilifeform: i can even tell you what is in store for epaper aficionados: the thing will be colourized, and the original b&w version will be taken off the market; just as with lcd; the colour version will be blurrier and less suitable for text, but WATCH LOLCATS YOU TERRORIST
asciilifeform: and has no way to optionally backlight, as it is not transparent
phf: i use a psion as an organizer, and i still can't get used to the fact that it looks ~good~ in direct sunlight. like it's some amazing novel technology ☟︎
pete_dushenski: same as iphone 6 'plus'
pete_dushenski: aha. i had one as a kid. it was very spiffy toy.
asciilifeform: without a mechanical dampener, it is same as banging against the wall.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: snore, for same reason as the laser keyboard of 10 yrs ago
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 18:26 pete_dushenski: this daylight theft wrapped up as 'transparencee' caters directly to teh aspie crowd, the kind who fancies himself genre savvy without really being so. the victim of 'taught controversy', if you will.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503282 << note that usg.crap is always "rape as marital bliss", "bankruptcy as wealth" etc etc. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: as to css, whatevs. isn't actually needed.
mircea_popescu: you also don't as a matter of principle need or want https. you might notice trilema redirects you to http
pete_dushenski: ie. not the high watermark so much as a tenuously related shadow of the thing itself
pete_dushenski: it wins self-made 'wars' as per http://www.contravex.com/2016/07/13/modernists-fixing-self-made-problems-since-1964-and-before/
trinque: I criticize "USG" as a category; it barely defines anything ☟︎
asciilifeform: (anyone who brings up gimp immediately reveals himself as someone who never drew anything more complex than 'rageface')
diana_coman: hm, as far as I know it should be able to pin the part/shape based on position+pressure and then I don't see indeed why wouldn't it be able to react to turning the pen - maybe it's a precision thing?
asciilifeform: 'Making non-mining full nodes “fork-tolerant” by decoupling them from the miners with respect to the prevailing block size limit. There is no need for ordinary node owners to upgrade as and when miners do, or accept a risky “flag day” event. Bitcoin Unlimited already has fork-tolerant nodes via BUIP001 where non-mining nodes always track the longest Proof-of-Work chain, and are agnostic to block version resizing flags.' << l0
pete_dushenski: or 'no brainer' as is the fashion
pete_dushenski: this daylight theft wrapped up as 'transparencee' caters directly to teh aspie crowd, the kind who fancies himself genre savvy without really being so. the victim of 'taught controversy', if you will. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and re: last night's 'keep on truckin'!' >> 'An eyewitness to the attack described the driver as "a young guy, very focused on what he was doing." "He didn't looking angry," John Lambert told CBC News. "He wasn't screaming or shouting. He was just … focusing on the job."' ( http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nice-truck-bastille-day-1.3680294 )
asciilifeform: this would handily eliminate alignment as a thing.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 15:57 mircea_popescu: if anyone wants the project, can be (probably SHOULD be) implemented as pure html, just a form.
mircea_popescu: it's the case amoeba in an agar fell upon some grains of sugar and are now taking their approximate shape, as perceived by amoebic senses
mircea_popescu: lol "bitcoin as a real" derps
Framedragger: each comment saved as separate file, to be removed etc using normal system tools; any modifcation under tree triggers static content regeneration
a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 02:37 mod6: As far as the "V Mirror" thing, that I know alf hates, I move forward on the basis that one doesn't have to use it, even though it is there. This may not be ideal, but it's bridge between both "easy" and "manual"
mod6: <shinohai> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502771 <<< remember i told you i did a test rum where i replaced V's mirror w/ mlocalhost deps and it still builds as expected. << oh yeah, forgot about that! ☝︎
asciilifeform: it isn't as if it were a nuke war, we have plenty of evidence re why
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "order" in physical reality.
mircea_popescu: this statement has nothing to do with reality and no power over it. all it does is, it identifies the speaker. identifies him as a roman.
mircea_popescu: the other side can deficit spend JUST as well.
mircea_popescu: they do have a point, euros can stand as no basis for resource allocation ; and the euro legal system has absolutely no business intervening in this sort of dispute.
Apocalyptic: as for try it yourself, I believe my time is better spent elsewhere
ben_vulpes: use sales as feedback
Apocalyptic: Saying they no longer have the code, as it's been 10 years
Apocalyptic: see the paragraph I'm referring to, and they even posted benchmark results as graph for collision resistance and preimage problems
Apocalyptic: jurov: well i'm all ears as to why it isn't
Apocalyptic: I just want the problem as a CNF file
asciilifeform: as a paste
mircea_popescu: if anyone wants the project, can be (probably SHOULD be) implemented as pure html, just a form. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 13:04 mircea_popescu: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/trilema << for the record, kiwiirc seems much better solution than freenode's webchat. we should prolly switch to using this as web-side connection.
mircea_popescu: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/trilema << for the record, kiwiirc seems much better solution than freenode's webchat. we should prolly switch to using this as web-side connection. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 02:37 mod6: As far as the "V Mirror" thing, that I know alf hates, I move forward on the basis that one doesn't have to use it, even though it is there. This may not be ideal, but it's bridge between both "easy" and "manual"
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502771 <<< remember i told you i did a test rum where i replaced V's mirror w/ my localhost deps and it still builds as expected. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 02:37 mod6: As far as the "V Mirror" thing, that I know alf hates, I move forward on the basis that one doesn't have to use it, even though it is there. This may not be ideal, but it's bridge between both "easy" and "manual"
shinohai: ;;later tell http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502771 <<< remember i told you i did a test rum where i replaced V's mirror w/ my localhost deps and it still builds as expected. ☝︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502702 << only as imposed by resource constraints. If the deps don't make it through the process I'll be at the keyboard tomorrow and will help make it happen. ☝︎
mod6: As far as the "V Mirror" thing, that I know alf hates, I move forward on the basis that one doesn't have to use it, even though it is there. This may not be ideal, but it's bridge between both "easy" and "manual" ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mod6: I do tend to favor that, as opposed to signing my own death warrant.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 02:06 mircea_popescu: (i'm not saying you're making a mess, i'm just saying - we're stuck with all this grandfathered in bullshit, such as boost, openssh, who the fuck knows what else even. qt ffs.)
mod6: The one staring me in the face is this: If we place them in trb's tree, we'll be adding vpatch after vpatch to the source base to update the makefiles as they require to be updated. Having them in their own tree could elimiate cruft in trb.
mod6: i think you have the same idea as i've been pondering...
mircea_popescu: (i'm not saying you're making a mess, i'm just saying - we're stuck with all this grandfathered in bullshit, such as boost, openssh, who the fuck knows what else even. qt ffs.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeah what i;m thinking is, since this "we gotta import crap" thing is going to continue, might as well put some sort of deed process into it
mod6: Will provide further updates on the makefiles project as I have them. Stay tuned.
mod6: As far as the Makefiles are concerned, we're having good success there (other than the remote sites for the deps), and will probably be making the same deedbot.org updates to that as well.
mod6: So I've updated the forthcoming V99994 to pull these from deedbot.org as opposed to their respective places out in the tubes.
asciilifeform: if the blacklist peddlers have half a brain, they distribute the thing as hashes
mircea_popescu: me has had plan drawn up to include small donation to verboten list in all txn processed for what, 3years now ? as anti-this pill.
phf: right getting identical environment as far as gcc is concerned
Framedragger: (oh, and 1. will sign a checksum at some point (soon); and 2. the tarball contains three compressed files which expand into three dirs, with ~600k files per dir; one file = one openpgp key, same as last time)
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-13#1502525 << hmm ok.. even his workflow wouldn't differ much now that i think of it.. he reviews patches sent via email etc. and he sure as fuck uses his wot fiercely. so, yeah.. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if it's not worth hitting with a ~$1k rocket, it's sure as fuck not worth hitting with a ~200k railgun shot.
asciilifeform: and rocket is every bit as subject to drag as bullet.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 04:47 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-13#1502308 << to put numbers on this : as it recently came out in debate with alf, diesel generators get ~40% efficiency if large enough (closer to my guess than yours! ha-HA!) ; depending on the coil design the resulting electricity will be transferred to projectile somewhere around 1 to 5% efficiency. to go higher air-cored assemblages are excluded because of the high reluctance of the damned
asciilifeform: Framedragger et al: consider, there is no concept of a 'repo' in v. nor of pulling, nor pushing, nor merging. in fact the thing (as properly implemented) doesn't make any use of network at all.
Framedragger: and prolly retink them laters as you relisten etc
Framedragger: heh. i listened to a weirdo almost-atonal musical piece yesterday by a friend who's doing sonology / electronic music (yeah such precise terms, i know). it was fkin great, lots of effort but worth it methinks. but then, the point is that this also counts as 'interpretation', possibly
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-20#1469423 fwiw but it's now much. i'm now convinced i had originally misinterpreted. at that point i was assuming that you had basically thrown out git in your mind as useless as it had been tainted with too strong an association with github. if that even makes sense. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in such a situation we sometimes decide to hammer a source into usability (such as, bitcoin, eulora, etc). but just as often decide to write de novo. how exactly this decision is made is not exactly specified.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger as to your words, the political association of git is at best with linus & the linux folk, i dun see what it has to do with github anymore than sunsets have to do with bad photography. but as to the actual issue : on one hand there's a ton of code there ; on the other there's absent functionality.
mircea_popescu: we'll discuss stability afterwards, as a sign of me not thinking i'll have to.
mircea_popescu: as in, if there's no oil.
mircea_popescu: by and large for every 100 J worth of gas you're putting in, you're getting out ~1J of ~muzzle velocity~. then as ben_vulpes pointed out correctly you lose most of this to air friction (longer range ? MUCH MORE FRICTION!), so you deliver maybe 1kJ or 2 per MJ expended.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 04:32 mircea_popescu: mats it's very hard to beat plain and simple fire-air bombs. you gotta put electricity through coils to make the projectile go magnetically, electricity which you got from a combustion generator in the first place.you're about five transforms away, might as well just put the same gasoline in a bottle and throw it at the enemy.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-13#1502308 << to put numbers on this : as it recently came out in debate with alf, diesel generators get ~40% efficiency if large enough (closer to my guess than yours! ha-HA!) ; depending on the coil design the resulting electricity will be transferred to projectile somewhere around 1 to 5% efficiency. to go higher air-cored assemblages are excluded because of the high reluctance of the damned ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: and so long as there is o2, it *will* burn.
mircea_popescu: mats it's very hard to beat plain and simple fire-air bombs. you gotta put electricity through coils to make the projectile go magnetically, electricity which you got from a combustion generator in the first place.you're about five transforms away, might as well just put the same gasoline in a bottle and throw it at the enemy. ☟︎
mats: i wonder how useful it is as a bunker buster
ben_vulpes: at that point, you may as well save on fab and engineering costs and submerge a hydrogen gun right under the water
mircea_popescu: i guess that's as good a reason as any
mircea_popescu: what the fuck are these people thinking ? they're seeing themselves as some sort of 17th century naval artillery dudes, firing kugels at one another ? there's nothing kinetic about weapons in use today, they're all thermic.
mircea_popescu: but i sure as fuck am not putting American Squarejaws and his Love Interest in there
mircea_popescu: i took it as far as actually having to make a decision, and is stuck now. do i introduce a hero ? do i make it what ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is the field-grunt arm of nsa. traditionally headed by same stuffed shirt as the better-known one.