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a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 15:40 asciilifeform: Framedragger:
the only
thing for useful idiots
to do,
to possibly reclaim some dignity, is
to repent. publicly.
mircea_popescu: anywya. your definition of dumb is not useful, because being smart is no particular defense against being dumb. i can readily grant
that
they're smart, in
the sense of
trained monkey : give it a fiddle and watch in amazement. but without
the fiddle it's just a monkey, and just like
the horse
that can count
to five is a remarkable horse, not a remarkable matematician -
these friends of yours are particularly bright idiots, if
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's not a
thing. she's not female because she says she's female, nor does she become male if she says she's male now, nor is her name jane because she calls herself jane.
mircea_popescu: and obviously
this has expanded cancerously and out of all proportion in
the past coupla decades
to "anything".
mircea_popescu: i understand
there's
this anglosaxon
tradition of "pronouncing a man's name like he himself does" come out of
the bizarre happenstance
that all of england decided
to drop historical pronounciation and follow
the airs of random whore history has forgot
to mention just about
the
time
they realised it'd be a good idea
to mark down how
the language works.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 15:38 Framedragger: but
to suggest
that folk from within are in on it, as in usg agents whatnot, is bull. i know
that in
terms of effects
there may not be much of a difference, but whenever you say "prolly controlled burn by
those idiots", i want
to smack you because
those friends are not dumb at all.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-26#1490744 << it doesn't matter if
the whore has accepted she's a whore in her "inner soul where she is writing her own story". she IS a whore.
this is not in her hand, not anymore
than she being "female" is in her hand. i decide
this, not her, and she can't
touch it if she stands on her head.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 15:35 Framedragger: if you mean
that > 50% of funding comes from usg and
that it was initially funded by navy research lab, yes
mircea_popescu: whether some are actually imbeciles and, kakobrekla-y, "really really believe" in
their idiocy is not a point of interest. between
the gestapo man who did it because sadist, and would have done it for free or even paid
to have
the job, and
the gestapo man who did it for
the money
there's no difference on
the gallows.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-26#1490707 << ~the only value of
that
thing is
to show fucking derps don't have a weblog. "and where's
the kitchen
table ?" "in our house we don't do kitchen
tables." "so what do you do ?" "well if we're hungry
there's
that
trough" "oic."
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 12:27 Framedragger: (if
there was
to be one more bot around
these parts, i assume having a prefix char for it be "@" would be fine - i
think it should be fine..
this can be changed of course)
BingoBoingo: film requires careful reading and a bit of gas mask anytime
the rat wizard Greenvald speaks
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: in fairness, i'd have
to recall, and you may have a point here - i am not sure.
BingoBoingo: But problems started before coming out, or did you not see Citizen4 and pay attention
to "has problems"
timeline?
Framedragger: non sequitur as far as
tor's use is concerned. he came out himself about him being
the leaker.
this breaks
the anonymity.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 15:45 Framedragger: wut? snowden used
tor
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> wut? snowden used
tor << Not as single
thing and as soon as what he was doing became known his situation became precarious
Framedragger: what
the fuck does
that mean, even. plenty of journalists reporting on actual shit use
tor all
the
time
Framedragger: did you ever run a god damn
tor browser? you prolly didnt because usg. it has banners and warnings all over. what else can one do.
they're
transparent about
the bugs (incl upstream firefox) etc. not saying
that i'd use
tor for important
things now.
☟︎ Framedragger: asciilifeform: you do know
that
tor never promised absolute anonymity etc etc, and says you have
to maintain good opsec,
tor is not enough etc.
Framedragger: 21:17 < helix> I
think it was incredibly selfish of you
to join
tor knowing
this would utterly fuck us PR-wise
shinohai: 22:31 < ioerror>
Tor is compromised. <<< lulz. When wasn't it?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: re: useful idiots, marjuana doesn't always do
the paranoia
thing. See: Amir
Taki and other
trusting fellows
Framedragger: but
to suggest
that folk from within are in on it, as in usg agents whatnot, is bull. i know
that in
terms of effects
there may not be much of a difference, but whenever you say "prolly controlled burn by
those idiots", i want
to smack you because
those friends are not dumb at all.
☟︎☟︎ Framedragger: sure. look, i'm not saying
that anyone of import should use
tor
Framedragger: if you mean
that > 50% of funding comes from usg and
that it was initially funded by navy research lab, yes
☟︎ Framedragger: i have, and i've had back and forth with mp on his blog long ago,
that conversation he likes
to quote, but
there is nothing material
Framedragger: asciilifeform: you don't know
those devs, so fuck off
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i assume source is unknown? only asking cause i'm curious, having had some relation
to
tor
a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 04:19 mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea how
the people who dreamed up
the hypertext failed
to realise
the value and importance of referencing SPECIFIC PORTIONS specifically,
a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 04:03 mircea_popescu: well let's
test if
this works better
than
that. asciilifeform you see it correctly ?
Framedragger: (if
there was
to be one more bot around
these parts, i assume having a prefix char for it be "@" would be fine - i
think it should be fine..
this can be changed of course)
☟︎ mod6: sorry for
the disruption. running fine, wanted
to get
the logging redirected as it should.
Framedragger: never read discourse on
the method, does it
take his circular "method"
to
the next level
there? :p
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: heh. yeah, fuck
the web,
truly.
mircea_popescu: i guess
their
teachers never went "i
think
therefore i am", but always quoted "meditationes de prima philosophia by
that guy looking like a frog ; somewhere in
there"
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea how
the people who dreamed up
the hypertext failed
to realise
the value and importance of referencing SPECIFIC PORTIONS specifically,
☟︎ Framedragger: with irc logs it's easy as selection is rather 'discrete' (one line separate from another). in blog, it's a bunch of
text, so more difficult
mircea_popescu: just, you have
the advantage of implicit
tokenization by line.
text doesn't really have
this.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i sorta like
the idea of avoiding js here if only because
that way backend actually gets
to know what is select, and can do
things about it (including being able
to assign a label
to
that block,
to be stored elsewhere (later));
those '#' anchors are not sent
to server. buut arbitrary realtime selection is pretty neat, i'll check it later..
Framedragger: this
thing - you can select a
timestamp first
time, it'll reload anchored and with from: set;
then when you select another
timestamp, it'll add
to:
to
the url, resulting in a range with proper permalink'y url
mircea_popescu: it's leet yeah but not so easy
to do well. because #browsers
Framedragger: ah. yeah i've seen
that. dang, should have
thought of
that
mircea_popescu: you can just select a chunk of
trilema it'll give you an url id
Framedragger: ahh. well, you can, but by clicking multiple
times
Framedragger: look it's an afternoon php hack, no js on purpose
tho
mircea_popescu: Framedragger guy had
this js
that
to me looked really good, but which apparently doesn't look consistent
through browsers.
mircea_popescu: well let's
test if
this works better
than
that. asciilifeform you see it correctly ?
☟︎ Etherael: Hello,
thanks for voice, I read your blog after
the ethereum debacle, found it interesting,
thought I would come here and listen for some
time.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
that's an earlier attempt at deedbot. it didn't
take.
Framedragger: some other stuff is written in lisp afaiui. but maybe deedbot rewritten in lisp since
then?
mod6: huh. i
thought it was a lisp deal
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 01:00 Framedragger should write some kind of simple
thingie which
takes (1) keyword and (2)
timestamp pairs as intervals, and produces a kind of wiki page for all given keywords. (2) can be amended later as needed. so
that
there'd be a page for gossipd without much effort at all