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mod6: we do what we can. i was pretty impressed with the speed at which they arrived.
mod6: shitazon limits, i've seen it before myself.
mircea_popescu: considering how much lisp i read... possibly not even then!
mircea_popescu: specifically, how do i pick among alternatives 1. "all stacks with odd index, left, all stacks with even index, right" and 2. "all stacks under 75 or over 125 left, all stacks within 75 to 125, right" ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: suppose i have stacks of 10k each with qualities from 50 to 150. average q is 100. now, how do i split these 100 stacks into two subsets ?
asciilifeform: i'ma write it up in cl if nobody else wants to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu : do i need to go on, or has it clicked ?
asciilifeform: know what, i can post the answer, and somebody else can turn into proggy if he feels like
asciilifeform: wait an' see, i suspect mircea_popescu will like the answ
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i solved yer puzzler, will post sln later today
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 21:47 mircea_popescu: so far that's even the reason empire crossed the threshold into oblivion ( i'm too lazy to dig up ye olde trilema where i say "state may exist for as long as it so closely mimmicks my will i can't discern it's there, and not one second past that" ) and now must be destroyed. had it had the sense (rather, the capacity) to maintain both forms, i'd nwever have even noticed it, and it could have continued to exist therefore.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i expect the "hard" case would revolve around powers of two, so i'm guessing checkermark pairings probably deliver the hardest case (for current pairwise mixing). say in 8 bit : 85 items q170, 146 items q 73, 219 items q109 and so on.
asciilifeform: currently i suspect that any 2 miscible-q piles can be merged in either 1 or 2 steps. but too tired to attempt proof just nao
Mocky: ok, I see it
Mocky: maybe i'm dense, what do you mean reduce a pile at least in half?
Mocky: looks right, so my intuition is clearly ill informed. imma see what else I can see
Mocky: i'm going to take a minute and verify that. but i expect you to be right, and then im gonna come back and say "ah, but i chose a bad example"
Mocky: based on intuition, which i shall explain
Mocky: neither could it be done in 3*P. my given example I'd wager 50/50 if it could be done in 4*P
asciilifeform: i'ma bbl.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> didn't thickasthieves get carpal ? or am i conflating stories ? << Mats has carpal, TAT went terminally comment section butthurt
asciilifeform: i'ma leave the proof for conjecture #2 here :
mod6: i read that they're abundant nao tho
mod6: i dunno, maybe? i felt like my arm was gonna fall off a few times. but never as bad as anything perm.
mircea_popescu: i recall this being a topic at c1, and me going "oh, there'll be bots"
asciilifeform: i think he contracted cuckal
mircea_popescu: didn't thickasthieves get carpal ? or am i conflating stories ?
mircea_popescu: me too! i used to not really be able to do so much, but nowadays...
mod6: maybe i'll give that a shot this weekend. i love mining
mircea_popescu: it's mockybot these days tho. he finally released one that works, i've been mining with it all week.
mircea_popescu: i agree.
asciilifeform: hey i'm playing it!111 rigthere!
mircea_popescu: that particular example i mean.
asciilifeform: i dun have one in my head, lol. but loox on the surface that there is one.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i love the pretense that dumb whale has "a life".
asciilifeform: ( and as i understand it, if yer right, then my conjecture must be true )
asciilifeform: as i see it, this makes for new algo : 1) make list of immiscible piles, henceforth do not iterate with these 2) iterate through possible mixes, solving eqn for Na (for known Nb, entirety of pile B) and k exists . until you end with solely immiscible Q pairs. then stop.
asciilifeform: aah i see it
mircea_popescu: what you say doesn't contradict what i say.
asciilifeform: nao we haven't yet the proof, but seems like we can conjecture that if |qa - qb| = 1, then piles with qa and qb are immiscible in any ratio; elsewise, yes mixable, in a ratio that can be found, i suspect, in O(1) .
asciilifeform: i made it 2048x2048 pixels, ought to print well on just about any printer , for wall lolcat hanging.
mod6: oh shit, it's a gif. i bet if i stare long enough a dragon pops out at me.
asciilifeform: cuz i certainly havent
asciilifeform: is the method obvious here or should i describe
mircea_popescu: mod6 i dun see you in old town ?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-24 00:30 asciilifeform: ( currently seems to stick to preying on the bottom half of the bell curve, mostly, but i suspect this won't last )
mircea_popescu: that's all i had.
asciilifeform: i follow thus far
asciilifeform: what i got thus far, is that Na(Qa - k) + Nb(Qb - k) = 0 admits solutions ( some Na, Nb ) for certain Qa,Qb but not others.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform am i making any sense to you ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, go ahead and !!pay 1.2 BTC back to me, and I'll meet ya on eulora to pay you 100mn ECU. Thanks!
asciilifeform: i sawed on it, tried to transform to system of diophantines, but came up empty
a111: Logged on 2018-08-24 00:21 mod6: Unless you want to also do us the favor of taking the additional 100mn ECU, and just !!pay'ing 1.2 BTC back to Pizarro. Totally up to you. We appreciate very much your efforts on this. I think we'll find a way eventually.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-24#1843996 << this is fine, do i shoot it ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-24 00:20 asciilifeform: Mocky, mircea_popescu , diana_away , et al : anybody find closed form for 'q1 and q2 miscible or not' ? all i have is Na(Qa - k) + Nb(Qb - k) = 0, for 1<=Na<=size(pileA), 1<=Nb<=size(pileB), integer k exists , but no better
BingoBoingo: I doubt most are powered on
asciilifeform: trinque: the way i conceptualize it, yes errybody has sr-90 in their bones. but some folx live right on top of reactor 4 , and others not
trinque: I recall plenty of razorwire in CR. decorative?
trinque: where is the wonderland without "oops X fucked your Y" and I'll pack today
mircea_popescu: "needed" being rhetorical flourish. i don't crush ants because needed.
trinque: sure, only thing I'd counter is the game by which they steal is the same test-taking nonsense seen elsewhere
a111: Logged on 2017-06-29 17:32 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8142 << "Her attorney informed us this morning, that although the deed is being assigned to my sister, my brother and I, that if my mother requires nursing home care through Medicare at any point over the next five years, that the Feds will take the house to pay the bills. "
asciilifeform: but i dun specifically know.
trinque can't argue it wont happen, or whether I have to shoot somebody breaking in tonight, or...
asciilifeform: ( currently seems to stick to preying on the bottom half of the bell curve, mostly, but i suspect this won't last ) ☟︎
trinque: if soon, I'm going to ride it out right here.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-23 17:59 asciilifeform: i can't speak for what particularly they're manacled to, only for self, tho.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-23#1843898 << not manacled, texas doesn't bother me, and I've not concluded yet how far away currency implosion is for the great soviet ☝︎
trinque: I'll try to find time to reproduce soon. you are correct that the var in script needs to point to the version of portage in distfiles.
mod6: Unless you want to also do us the favor of taking the additional 100mn ECU, and just !!pay'ing 1.2 BTC back to Pizarro. Totally up to you. We appreciate very much your efforts on this. I think we'll find a way eventually. ☟︎
mod6: mircea_popescu: Alright, sorry to keep you waiting here. I'd say Pizarro is fine to hang on to ECU if we can try again in the next say, 60 days. This would eliminate the step of having to buy ECU (which clearly isn't a problem anyway). Otherwise, you can just !!pay. Amount was 1.1bn ECU. I originally bought 1.2bn from dpb, and I was going to hold the remaining 100mn until the end of the year, unless we
asciilifeform: but i suspect that i'm thick
asciilifeform: Mocky, mircea_popescu , diana_away , et al : anybody find closed form for 'q1 and q2 miscible or not' ? all i have is Na(Qa - k) + Nb(Qb - k) = 0, for 1<=Na<=size(pileA), 1<=Nb<=size(pileB), integer k exists , but no better ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I'm still calibrating when/where to have low expectations here
diana_away: re picking stuff, I did ask for some chicken for the child at one restaurant and what he got clearly went moo in its life but since he did not complain anyway...
diana_away: ah, I'd always thought they looked more like fat rats
BingoBoingo: I did learn this week that the word for guinea pig in Spanish is "Cuy" so I can have fun with that asking vendors at the feria to help me pick a good one for dinner
diana_away: on the bright side I can say that I got along with my adapted italian so far
diana_away: I found funny here this thing with american-pretending-to-be-italian food esp salami in the supermarket
diana_away: I guess I should give that one another try here too
BingoBoingo: All the expats from baseball latino lands (Colombia/Vzla) seem to love Maracuyá (passion fruit), but I find the flavor rather astringent and bitter.
diana_away: I even had a "shrimp spaguetti" with white whine and what-not - it was delicious; oh, and the fig cake - this should be on asciilifeform's list I'd say
diana_away: I'm not much for tropical fruit apparently
diana_away: food wise to be honest I kept to fish and seafood which are both good and fruit which is clearly an entire level above what one gets in europe but apparently I like it better in cocktails if anything
asciilifeform: Mocky: i dun have a proper heuristic yet. but must note that 'xor(qa&1, qb&1)==0' is overtight, so unlikely that earlier algo is optimal
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah ok, thanks for the update. I'll get back to ya here in a bit on what's best for unwind.
mircea_popescu: fucking useless "banks", i swear to god by now it's the exact equivalent of "technology" from bed sitting room, guy-pedals-electricity.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i'm sorry, but ima have to refund you. whole exercise turned into a massive pile of idiocy. im closing an entire bank out of the loop over their idiotic misbehaviour ; we'll have to try this again later on. ☟︎
Mocky: i get it now
asciilifeform: (i.e. lossless)
Mocky: well, i was given a somewhat different problem statement 2 months ago. more of a software requirement than problem statement actually: http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-10.log.html#t18:59:23
asciilifeform: Mocky: i still dun get why your algo requires the xor of the ~quality~'s oddness bits to be 0
Mocky: but i've been thinking on this, and I do think it's possible to come up with one that works in linear time
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:39 mircea_popescu: i have eight sets of "sb" (solid branch) : 503 q 222 ; 1466 q 3 ; 973 q 207 ; 983 q 252 ; 1651 q 258 ; 2963 q 189 ; 563 q 22 and 336 q 225. the first number is the count, the second the quality (depends on your mining, whatever) ; you can mix these, the game will floor the average quality. this means you can lose matter through mixing, so you want to mix stacks so as to obtain the highest possible quality final.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-23 15:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking of your puzzler: if you want always optimal path, it afaik reduces to A* search. actually quite similar to pcb routing.
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-23#1843778 I initially ruled out A* for lack of admissible heuristic. maybe asciilifeform can see O(1) (or even O(n) ) heuristic to estimate remaining steps in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-20#1525884 without ever overestimating ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: i suppose i oughta have included phf in the list of 'i have nfi what ~they~'re still doing in natoreich'
asciilifeform: i've met both, this is not a seekrit afaik
asciilifeform: i can't speak for what particularly they're manacled to, only for self, tho. ☟︎
asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform is not the only 'tard' tuned in, last i knew mod6 , trinque , ben_vulpes , lobbes , also still behind the wire.