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a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 14:14 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one of the larger, more impressive books in my parents' library was "welt der kunst". i couldn't read german, but mom explained it's "the world of art" so it populated my childish immagination for a full decade, until old enough to read it. by that time it disappointed -- not that anything could have lived to heights a kid might build in mind over years.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: until diana_coman's test battery, i never even attempted to use the tasking system.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was a ~3 month thread
a111: Logged on 2015-04-06 18:19 mircea_popescu: what's now needed is an expert computer engineer willing and able to take over maintenance of libnss, starting with fixing it so it allows proper static linking.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-29 16:41 mircea_popescu: you can't go "oh i don't use libnss anyway". you probably are.
asciilifeform: it was subj of mircea_popescu's letter to rms, and the associated lulz
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we did. recall the 'nss' incident.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho the near-term thing to do is for bvt to get the gcc5sim, glibcism, out of his test setup. then can proceed to fix bugs that we actually have in the house, rather than liquishit that only afflicts glibctards.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 17:47 mircea_popescu: but anyway : NO NEW WORK ON SHA PLOX. USE KECCAK.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the diana_coman-bin we disasmed yesterday , is musltronic.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it already worx , afaik, on musl, ave1's gnat shits out strictly musl-static linkage. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm sitting in something quite resembling such chamber as we speak.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the real q is , what subset of the claimed extant functionality adds up to a programming environment.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'house explodes when i turn on the hydrogen faucet' 'why do you have a hydrogen faucet ?'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unless i misread bvt's piece, the bugola is only triggered when tasks are permitted to terminate.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it were asciilifeform's proggy, asciilifeform would http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895596 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2012-09-16 01:12 mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 because by now not that many people can be bothered to invite him anywhere.
a111: Logged on 2012-09-16 01:03 mircea_popescu: dude stop faking it, seriously. you, taaki and his sister showed up. nobody cares, fo reals.
a111: Logged on 2012-09-16 01:14 mircea_popescu: no.
asciilifeform: ( naturally if you aint one of'em, can ask until the cows come home. recall mircea_popescu's letter to rms ? )
asciilifeform: i.e. mircea_popescu actually knows that it dun need a deep fryer cuz wtf , it cannot be spontaneously filled with mcd eaters
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yer kitchen is a closed system , in the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897470 sense ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: applicable to all cases where gnarly 'optimized for typical, and we think we know what is typical'
a111: Logged on 2015-04-29 13:25 mircea_popescu: "Put another way, grep sells out its worst case (lots of partial matches) to make the best case (few partial matches) go faster. How treacherous! As this realization dawns on me, the room seemed to grow dim and slip sideways. I look up at the Ultimate Unix Geek, spinning slowly in his padded chair, and I hear his cackle "old age and treachery...", and in his flickering CRT there is a face reflected, but it's my ex girl
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 14:10 mircea_popescu: now in other lulz, check this out : http://archive.is/89adR#selection-9.9948-9.10055 "This is a special mix of insertion sort and heap sort, optimized for the data sets that actually occur."
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 14:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't fucking get it, just HOW FUCKING MANY symbols are they dealing with here ? by the sheer desperation screaming out of the code you'd think a compile produces at least 5 trillion of them.
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu posed q of 'how many symbols on machine'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rright, but that's ~per build~, and ea. build destroys symbols ( in the sense that they got statically pumped into the bin, and no longer 'exported' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you gotta read the gnu malloc sores sometime. very similar 'thinking'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: c linking is simply automated cut&paste.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I'm not aware of anything that actually does that reliably
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik in diana_coman's case it is trivial, cuz static link.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cocks have at least something resembling a bound parameter.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unixtardism suffers from the full spectrum of the idjicies outlined in that 'what gets mircea_popescu raging' article
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> maybe just link it ; but even so i'm nopt sure what "uch offers and promises none of these cities would abide the tin woman passing his dick pic around to all her friends that aren't him" means. << ties into the second archive link where... gossip rags are trying to monetize his sexts
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the part where you can #include <foo.h>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cuz it'd break ~100% of extant c soup
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a hack, of exactly that species ( see e.g. https://archive.is/vTHJi )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: adacorpse appears to be inbiz, but hard to say when last did anyffin useful ( see e.g. https://www.adacore.com/press )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaah see on my planet kunstkammer is specifically peter's, with the 2headed foeti etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's prolly built by thumbsuction
asciilifeform: np mircea_popescu
deedbot: mircea_popescu has not rated bvt.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 00:32 mircea_popescu: "The issue is that the code generated for __builtin_longjmp reads a value for x29 (the frame pointer) from the jmp_buf, but the code generated for __builtin_setjmp doesn't actually write x29 to the jmp_buf, leading to corruption of x29 when a longjmp occurs.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 00:31 mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/x8D5k << apparently they STILL have the issue in gcc 8.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: 33
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 23:36 mircea_popescu: but seems he ALSO found a race condition in the handlers ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got it ( and iirc was linked recently in trilema )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems to redirect to random article
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 17:10 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/how-do-you-spel-illiterate.png linked from http://trilema.com/2017/what-are-you-being-distracted-from/#selection-387.0-411.1 ???
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-16#1897225 << the former link eggogs, but i think this is by design, on acct of mircea_popescu's anti-hotlinker pill ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 17:10 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/how-do-you-spel-illiterate.png linked from http://trilema.com/2017/what-are-you-being-distracted-from/#selection-387.0-411.1 ???
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/how-do-you-spel-illiterate.png linked from http://trilema.com/2017/what-are-you-being-distracted-from/#selection-387.0-411.1 ??? ☟︎☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu yes + I must say I like the idea of "rip'em open after tea" - sounds great; but other than that: I'll try objdump too since after this gnat-adventure I'd rather have some way to look inside it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i hesitate to addict folx to ida, it's a gnarly ball of proprietary liquishit, and needs a toilet box with 'wine' to run etc
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll have to dig, but it sounds very familiar
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 02:32 mircea_popescu: so yeah, much like retarded russkis go "oh, we too businessmen, gave $dork state income, now he can buy suit" ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788430 finest example), the ustards are all "oh, gave computing to wintel, can has tech!!!"
asciilifeform: guten morgen diana_coman , mircea_popescu , et al
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 16:44 mircea_popescu: "Like a bad ass she is, she proved to be wise beyond her years by standing head and shoulders (Or is it ass-tall) with the boys." doesn't even INTEND irony, you realise.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 19:29 mircea_popescu: o, speaking of "women in tech" : after thoroughly wrecking yahoo (eerily reminiscent of carly fiorina's "performance" at meanwhile disappeared compaq/hp), melissa meyer disappeared from view ; leaving verizon to pick up teh pieces.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i would not go so far as to say 'entirely useless', 2ce the bitness gets you 2ce the rsa speed for same clock.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not even 'tb', but go an' try to find on market arm box of ~any~ description that eats ordinary socketed dimms ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thread was re mid-2000s lappies. ( i have moar recent ones, which have e.g. 32GB in'em etc )
a111: Logged on 2019-02-06 15:44 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's not so much win from 64 on lappies where max ram e.g. 3GB.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ida6 only ate 32bit arm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sjlj ? was 'deprecated' Officially, Only A Terrorist(tm) Would Want, was the flavor i got from the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-15#1897058 rotters ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 00:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-15#1897049 << pretty sure there exist aarch64 sjlj compiled kernels.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sank several hours into the dig and did not find whether 'worked, then broken' or 'never written'
a111: Logged on 2019-02-15 17:46 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, my current appreciation is of the sort (tower of shit inside tower of shit )^infinity
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, my current appreciation is of the sort (tower of shit inside tower of shit )^infinity ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-15 16:45 mircea_popescu: does anyone have any appreciation WHATSOEVEr what a tower of shit all this is ? "oh, we have 3 options of which one sorta works except not in this way -- but the other two, barely at all!"
a111: Logged on 2019-02-15 16:43 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dood runs windows, what can i tell you.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-15 06:24 mircea_popescu: aaand also meanwhile, but this time in http://trilema.com/2017/global-warming-on-triton/ lulz : https://weather.com/news/news/2019-02-11-hawaii-storm-record-cold-maui-snow
a111: Logged on 2019-02-15 02:45 mircea_popescu: diana_coman so in the end, the conclusion of these procedings is, we're switching to sjlj and use no handlers ? did you ever manage to get it going on smg test server ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman do you have any pressing itches re the asm vivisections , or can table it for nao ?
asciilifeform: ( before mircea_popescu answers 'holy mother of fuck, this is chemically-pure wankery' -- yes, it was. but imho still beats shit out of redditism. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a stateful box of ??? ( rumour is, not even orig vendor can fully describe the phase space )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: manual is silent, for the most part, on subj.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'test' vs 'cmp' thing is microscopic , so arguably red herring here
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 21:53 diana_coman: mircea_popescu and anyone else following along, here's the data from a set of runs with handlers from 0 to 3: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9Cstd/?raw=true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do i misread the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-14#1896636 run ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: opposite. cmp is ~3x slower than 'test'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's what gcc does for small (i dun recall threshhold) computed switch
asciilifeform: i suspect mircea_popescu dun habitually read gcc barf
asciilifeform: yw mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the stack frame.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where 50 and 60 ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu and anyone else following along, here's the data from a set of runs with handlers from 0 to 3: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9Cstd/?raw=true ☟︎
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 7.10251150028e-06
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, just to make sure you get this straight: Max is one thing, the final X is another i.e. the final X really counts how many times procs got entered; the max value means procs stop calling others (but note that the x=x+1 is done before the check precisely because I wanted to know how many calls)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ^
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've had to up stack depth on 1 occasion before -- when testing ffa with ridiculously wide bitnesses ( recall, item runs 100% stackistically )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i cannot resist to ask, is it 'ragassa' and not 'ragazza' ? ( was it a sicilianism or wat )
asciilifeform: aite, i'ma do it to the variant mircea_popescu goes with
diana_coman: right; as soon as mircea_popescu confirms the code is what he wanted, will do
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, let me know if that's the sort of thing you had in mind or not
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 07:55 mircea_popescu: diana_coman : btw, here's my current model for the calling timing harness : write three procedures, A B C. have each of these 1. increment a global counter, X ; 2. check if X is over a max value ; 3. if it is not, have each call either one or the other of the other two randomly ; 4. if X is over max value, have them simply return.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: could even say nao is 'bitcoin winter', the sorts of folx inclined to stuff head up arse are stuffing deeper than ever and boasting
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu do you think we oughta be making tiles ?
asciilifeform: right. so hypothesis requires then that it is viable commercially, i.e. someone other than mircea_popescu give enuff damn to bake'em into tiles.