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asciilifeform: when you can use machines at your leisure, it's a somewhat different game that you're playing.
asciilifeform: a 'strong human' in this context is simply one who knows how to use his machine correctly.
nubbins`: i recall some years ago a guy was pitting an AMD cpu vs an intel cpu in a game of chess
benkay: "Weak human + machine + better process was superior to a strong computer alone and, more remarkably, superior to a strong human + machine + inferior process."
asciilifeform: (monte-carlo style searches, or even classical - e.g. A* work quite well on 9x9 board.)
nubbins`: not even a pro
nubbins`: benkay: even a moderately skilled go player can beat a computer
asciilifeform: alternatively, one could set up a contest explicitly for machines.
benkay: a chaotic upper zone with good players and good computers but bad process with bad players and good computers and good process, to mangle a thing someone once said.
benkay: potentially a third tier too, augmented pros.
asciilifeform: go would produce a dual-tiered situation, with a population of idiots running machines against each other, and pros who clean them out at their leisure.
benkay: play versus each other with a stake?
asciilifeform: because a serious player can beat the state-of-the-art machine there.
asciilifeform: someone could probably squeeze out a meager living from cracking these chumpatrons.
mircea_popescu: there does seem to be a disproportionate population of carnies in bitcoin ☟︎
asciilifeform: since the author set the rules, he knows exactly how to optimize a rat.
asciilifeform: and why only augmentations. let the chumps buy ratpoison for a selected enemy rat.
asciilifeform: i can't help but imagine some fellow at Meta-NSA, with a pill against ECDSA hidden under a flower pot in his office, laughing his arse off at these morons. ☟︎
asciilifeform: good, i don't need to draw a picture.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yeah the now feed the borked RNG data through a borked schneier algo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that one was a double whammy of sorts
mircea_popescu: bVector it was a mistake, submit again please.
benkay: profit for calls on a lotsize: ((spot - strike) / strike) * lotsize) - buyprice
mircea_popescu: bVector was it a .25 zeroconf ?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=titter | Breasts that are abnormally large causing a man, who initially sees them, to get an immediate erection within his genital area.
benkay: "yes please put my longs in a string"
benkay: what an unmitigated fuckhole of a transmission format
dub: mircea_popescu: is it lost on you/her that trying to help people who are beyond help is a less pleasurable way of fucking your own ass?
kanzure: jborkl: are you using a torrent?
kanzure: i think bitcoin people will make a patent defense fund and nuke apple from orbit instead
benkay: a friend and i came up with an amusing scenario where the refusal to play with bitcoin drives apple out of the mobile game
benkay: although if apple gets their way with the jailed platforms one won't be able to actually run a bitcoin client on any OS X instance.
benkay: a rather large chunk of the 'computer' using population.
jborkl: Who uses a mac anyway, we can boot them all off of IRC with one ﲬ
benkay: not a terrible lot
benkay: who knows, Hive might actually make a usable OS X wallet.
Apocalyptic: the last one 2 hours ago : "Seedcoin Fund is the first global seed-stage Bitcoin startup fund. The funds in bitcoin raised through this public offering will be invested in a portfolio of Bitcoin startups to be incubated by Seedcoin"
jborkl: Nothing on the forum is a joke, somewhere someone thinks it is so...
Kleeck_: It should be a joke.
Apocalyptic: 1.85 Billion, that's a joke
thestringpuller: can I get a 1000 btc loan
dub: from a network vendor channel
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic he had an ok reputation, been around forever, did a sort of hash exchange before that closed down cleanrly
Apocalyptic: " he made a website with css" , ok I stopped right here, that's solid
dub: Apocalyptic: he made a website with css and some oldschool tards vouched for him
ll: heh i havent heard nerdcore in a while
kanzure: i published a paper in the journal of nucleic acid research, does that count? (probably not)
dub: im working with a chinese vendor in a poc lab on one of my projects, you need tiny hands to work with some of the gear
kanzure: there's also a third one that has cancer so i can't talk too much shit about him
kanzure: oh, unfortunately that's a different asshole named bryan
mircea_popescu: kanzure a good for you then
benkay: there was a css education session yesterday.
jurov: you have to find a vocalist with fitting accent tho
jurov: woo pankkake on a roll
dub: how much for a board seat
benkay: jurov: the list of 'startup descriptions' reads like a list of 'look at these sweet companies we want to copy and or 'invest' into!'
benkay: jurov: they're funding a wallet!
mike_c: limited partners buy into a vc fund and don't expect to see it back for 10 years
thestringpuller: i feel though it is a rehash of Footsteps in the Dark
thestringpuller: but yea that's a dope song
mike_c: yeah, eating it seems bad: At Cray Research we used Flourinert extensively in the Tritons, and if we ever had a 'burn', where a circuit failed and heated it to boiling, we had to evacuate the building immediately, as the gas is the most powerful carcinogen known... 1 part in 5 billion if memory serves
ozbot: Frying a potato chip in Fluorinert FC-40 - YouTube
asciilifeform: heavier than air, so you have to do a head stand afterwards.
asciilifeform: ever see a stage performer breathe sulfur hexafluoride?
asciilifeform: always wondered if some truly loaded fellow has a swimming pool of fluorinert.
asciilifeform: usually cheaper to make a new baby
mike_c: has a human ever tried to breathe fluorinert?
deadweasel: most water cooled pumps will gurgle a bit while they get going, right?
asciilifeform: i had cpu water for a few years, '01-04. lost quite a few boards to slow leaks, despite first-class seals.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: suggested experiment: add to your water tank, a few drops of the 'perfume' used to scent natural gas.
asciilifeform: benkay: hardware is not a magic pill. it must have a purpose. consider what parts of your current setup strike you as questionable.
benkay: i suppose this is possible with a vm on a usb stick
benkay: but i want to ssh into a box with a cardano-like device
benkay: wave hands to a certain extent
twizt: anyone know a good btc/ltc datafeed
thestringpuller: JUST BOUGHT A CADILLAC
ThickAsThieves: pankkake this would be a good Zhou Thong track
nubbins`: well, arguably, but assuming that's so -- it doesn't mean it can translate into music with a straight face
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: anyway, to answer your question from earlier, i'm not sure there's a way to write a song about bitcoin that isn't funny
Kleeck: bitcoinmarkets used to be good... once upon a time...
TomServo: Is this a trick question?
thestringpuller: is there a way to grep all the trades from the logs?
nubbins`: "well, that's a G-I-R-L-F-R-E-N / that's a girlfriend / that's somethin' that i'd understand"
nubbins`: no, i can't see how investing in mining is a good idea
ThickAsThieves: kinda unclear if it's sposed to be a funny effort or not
nubbins`: a jonathan richman sort of style would be great for this
ThickAsThieves: I actually have a song i never finished that lyrics kinda fit the idea
nubbins`: inaba decided to give us some grief, with a shit-eating grin and a faint smell of queef
nubbins`: pre-order hardware, six months down the road, is like a fine prince, turned into a toad
nubbins`: altho it does have a "night before christmas" feel, hey
deadweasel: so it looks like youj're making a childrens book for bitcoin?
nubbins`: then one day a miner appeared at a door
asciilifeform: there ought to be a naughty bitmap or two in that Gb.
nubbins`: i'm on a roll!
nubbins`: "but surely a product, a business must need",
pankkake: anyway it's easy to make an anal cunt song: take a subject, say it's gay
mircea_popescu: how can anal cunt have a longer article than stoya.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, it was always a bored guy. not noteworthy in any sense.
mircea_popescu: jesus i can't believe anal cunt has a 50 page wikipedia entry, complete with neckbeard graphs and dioramas.
nubbins`: in search of a clue as to when we could mine