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BingoBoingo: Cool, no rush on
this. Let
the mulling continue!
mircea_popescu: anybody wanna play
the "guess where mp comes up for air next" game btw ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i shall be
travelling
tomorrow, but we get back on
this wed.
BingoBoingo: But I suspect equity just isn't corrupting enough on its own for
the masses
BingoBoingo out
to enjoy some pseudo-winter air and do some mulling
BingoBoingo: That's likely
to get more interest from
the outside. May get
the corruption pump going which is kinda what we stalled out on with
the Republic as salaryman's hobby.
mircea_popescu: i guess i'd have
to open it a credit line, make a convertible bond, something. still mulling all
this over.
mircea_popescu: make
two
tiers, so
the editor in chief + i guess whatever others we promote
to permanent editorship still has
the option
to get shares ; but
the rest just get a payoff.
mircea_popescu: i mean,
the whole get shares
thing is eminently fair, respectful whatever, but evidently
the cattle's neither interested nor ready for anything like
that.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, i was
thinking maybe it'd be a good move
to reform
the qntra structure, have outright 10c/word payable for copy for colalborators, do say weekly deedbot payouts or something.
BingoBoingo: ^ Could also be
titled "In Sad State of Sad World Largest Market Is Saddest"
BingoBoingo: Not like anyone prohibited black and white laser printed or photocopied lists, but
the marginal gotta obsess over
the colors because
they haven't been stomped enough
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 03:27 mircea_popescu: back when some imbecile went
to fake news media rather
than coming
to qntra, got sent
to jail for it, STILL did not admit
there exists no media online besides qntra.
mircea_popescu has been buying by
the bushel, from street vendor conveniently placed right under my balcony. omfg cherries! fucking delish
mircea_popescu: the cherries popped sometime yesterday. (this is an euro event, sometime during
the summer
the mega cherries, huge, delicious, appear by
the
truckload on
the market).
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: if it helps pizarro in
the slightest, feel free
to list my blog, sure
BingoBoingo: Anyways, as I compile
this market profile for public consumption it is clear
that when pizarro churner pushing copy,
the copy'll have
to include some of
the
things we host as an introduction
to
the Republic.
This would mean Qntra, Eulora, and whoever might want
their blogs listed.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 03:27 mircea_popescu: back when some imbecile went
to fake news media rather
than coming
to qntra, got sent
to jail for it, STILL did not admit
there exists no media online besides qntra.
BingoBoingo: It would be nice if more hands came
to
this deck but little reason
to order yours here when you have other avenues for educating
them and more productive uses
to apply
them
to. Principally it would be nice if more people climbed out of
the muck. But
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1795969 ☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-07-01 08:32 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, would you say
the share system of compensation is rather a help or rather a hindrance in acquiring new writers for
the qntra ?
mircea_popescu: when newton sits down
to do some work, newton proceeds from
the edges of
the known in a general direction, yes, but he can do
this in a number of ways at a number of
times ; he is not seized upon by sudden inspiration,
to be helplessly
thrown
to and fro like a maniac, arriving he knows not when or where.
mircea_popescu: it said "your single-path-impredictable-and-unreviewable
theorems" ;
they'd be
these 1. "theorems", as
the
term is used here, ie, constructions of
the mind, which are 2. single-path as in,
there is only one possible way
to get
there (unlike
true constructions of
the mind, which can always be reached from a multitude of nodes,
the implication being
that
these are mere masks on specific structures of psychogenic noise, not bon
diana_coman: about "learning a skill"; I've read recently Benjamin Franklin's own auto-biography and
that's how he put it everywhere.
diana_coman: you know,
they used
to say "he was bred
to painting/butchering/whatever"
mircea_popescu: copying
the forms may be a great way
to get
to
the substance -- which is why say all painters who painted back when painting worked and such a
thing as being a master painter was still on
the
table learned
the craft in "full houses", run by some older painter ; but we're adults, we're in
the business of substance here, no amount of formalist perfection's gonna do anything on its own.
diana_coman: certainly; I've put it in
the log more
to make it clear
that it's just one example, not some "has
to be
this way"
mircea_popescu: there's no "i'll be a living organism only doing 2/5 of
the
things living organisms must do".
this is not an available option.
mircea_popescu: just, you know, whichever way you answer
to
the burdens of living, an answer you must give.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-01 10:05 mircea_popescu: back when chet was an adult woman, decade or so before we met, she ran
the only old style kitchen in her neighbourhood. local girlies came
to hang out and learn how
to cook, her house was always full. my cousin i had hannah live with for a coupla months did
the same
thing, she had
two hgirls one year apart of her own and a half dozen daytime live-ins.
mircea_popescu goes back
to writing
these boring missives nobody ever reads
diana_coman: well, I guess he may have his own computer when he builds one himself,
too
diana_coman: it's a shame
the child is only 6 as otherwise he's anyway coming home straight
to check
that I didn't "do anything with
the computer parts" while he was away; and I have yet
to see any of his play-mates
that want
to leave our house when
time is up, lol.
diana_coman: I suppose I'm fighting more my own fear of "wrong" pick
than anything; one
thing
that good memory does at least is
that it keeps
there for ever ALL
the lessons learnt and changes/improvements made
too so yes, can change further.
mircea_popescu: one of
the key crowd control mechanisms of
the empire, useful esp at
the
top, is
this discouragement of arbitrariety. what, you're made of hookmeat or something ? you can pick,
that's what you're here for,
to pick!
diana_coman: that's certainly something I need
to work more on, yes.
mircea_popescu: you hold your lordship like anyone else, your choice enacts reality, if someone else was
the smartypants you didn't pick, shame on ~THEM~.
they should've looked more like it.
mircea_popescu: and
the other item in
this rapidly depleting bucket of possibly useful ideas : fucking pick. obviously i'll look at a group and go "talk
to
that one with
the
tits" or w/e such, my picks are easy peasy. but
this doesn't mean yo ucan't pick! look at a group, select
the donkey with
the more intelligent gaze,
talk
to
that, what's
to keep you.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so simply do
that. "oh, is
this a mobile app ?" "ehh, *handwave* mobile apps. here's
the weird
thing about shaders..."
mircea_popescu regularly ignores nonsense on "absolute
truth" "respect" "consent" etc blablabla from assorted girlies.
they handle it just fine, in fact all
they're really looking for is some kind of release from it. if
there's a place where
things can be discussed without reference
to
the pantsuit mental infrastructure
they're perfectly happy
to.
diana_coman: can still be (I've repeatedly and from-experience cut down on it but possibly still more
to cut; it certainly DOES work wonderfully when I'm
truly pissed off, yes.)
mircea_popescu: if you spend your
time engaging
their idiocy on its own
terms you'll just be sadder
than you need
to be.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, possibly
the problem was you engaged
the matter. imo
the correct approach
to whatever
the fuck nonsense
they sprout is simply no and moving back
to discussing actually important
things.
mircea_popescu: but it seems
to me
talking
to
the pantsuit youth ~in groups~ is a complete waste of
time. from one end
to
the other, fetlife yielded via private messaging ; okcupid did not yield
through public and visible
group dominance, i dunno
the whys and wherefores but
they evidently ignore all group anything.
diana_coman: they move away; but it's quite possible
that it's not because of
the "no, not mobile" -
that's just
the convenient excuse and
those same would have found another otherwise
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, honestly, a pointed "no" works wonders. you don't have
to either cater or appear
to cater
to
their worldview or expectations.
they
take
that just fine.
mircea_popescu: maybe it's an item on
the cattle survival list we don't know about, "never act on any public leads". nfi.
mircea_popescu: the girls' PRIVATE commlines however,
those were snowed in. it's not
that
they didn't wanna ; it's
that for some (yet uncomprehended) reason
they... couldn't just fucking come, not in a group, i dunno.
diana_coman: partially
there is
this obsession with "gotta be a mobile app"; and while sure, one could make a eulora client for mobile if
they care for, first of all I DON'T CARE FOR
THAT and second ffs, I'm not going
to load into my head apple's shit now
mircea_popescu: consider
this example : at burlesque competition (writing an article about
this
that'll fill in details) i
told organizer i'm giving free vodka
to
the contestants after
the show, and spread
the word around. everyone was excited, yet nobody came.
mircea_popescu: the one other element is
that i suspect formalism has a significant destructive effect.
diana_coman: that's precisely
the
thing: I went
to local uni
to offer
them "come and practice"; result nil; but again and as above:
this part needs
to come
to focus and
then (only
then) it will work. (I know I made it work before, it's not
that I can't or something)
mircea_popescu: pretty much everything worth having in
this world can well be had for
the cost of a cup of coffee well brewed.
mircea_popescu: so put up ad, you know, "work with me on X". even if you don't go
to local uni
to send you students for practice, kids may well show up.
diana_coman: filtering is not relaxed, no; fwiw I DO already have some hours when yes,
teaching young people maths mainly; but
that's not
translating at all so far into having anyone do work for eulora
mircea_popescu: there is no such
thing as human industry
that does not benefit from company ;
the strange behaviours of baruch spinoza and such are 1. not a
tradition but an accident and 2. something
the old masters ~regretted~ as an unfortunate result of misguided youth, wasn't
their fucking option and choice.
mircea_popescu: why eschew
the pleasant way
this always worked for some ford-esque atrocity of a chaplin parody ?!
mircea_popescu: back when chet was an adult woman, decade or so before we met, she ran
the only old style kitchen in her neighbourhood. local girlies came
to hang out and learn how
to cook, her house was always full. my cousin i had hannah live with for a coupla months did
the same
thing, she had
two hgirls one year apart of her own and a half dozen daytime live-ins.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: even without
the "oh, bad
things in future". it has
to change because it's unhealthy. why do eight hour stretches locked in kitchen/orchard/garden whatever when you could be doing
twelve hours of relaxed work and play ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu:
those
that made it at least in here for some
talk are fully visible, see
the mp3 guy as most recent but as I said, so far I was 99% on "get eulora finally going" ;
this clearly has
to change because otherwise by
the
time it's good
to go,
there's nobody left or something.
mircea_popescu: "somebody" deciding "you are stupid" or whatever
the fuck else on
the basis of your own fucking work is exactly as interesting as
the fly-meaning of flies buzzing by.
mircea_popescu: it ~seems
there might be~, in all sorta ways manners and "do we still have
to DO
this". it's an illusion. idiocy simply gets filtered out at 0 cost and
that;s
that.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 19:46 BingoBoingo: I brought up
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1921054 because it epitmoizes
the Republican communication problem where despite ample examples, keeping everything "sooper
top seekrit" until its absolutely "done" is
the most losing strategy.
mircea_popescu: there's deeply ingrained anti-sharing culture leading
to
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1921077 style nonsense. i have derived no detriment from my cock being publicly visible ; my sluts derived no detriment from
their whatever exposure.
there is, literally and strictly, no drawback whatsoever
to communication.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: well,
the literate process can help
there as anywhere.
diana_coman: I did / do on occasion but it seems
to me it needs
to be way more focused
thing
than just
this leisurely "on occasion"
mircea_popescu: talk
to some kids in between working in
the orchard,
there's no way out of
this.
diana_coman: I want
that
too and
therefore I'm pondering here if I'm not focusing
too much on all
the
tech parts
that eulora needs sorted (and
the pile just seems
to grow) instead of specifically carving out some
time for proper outreach of
the filtering kind
to build up helpers if I can't find
them
diana_coman: on
the positive side, europe has a long history of failing in one place and
then sprouting up again in another place; sort of used
to failure and recovery
mircea_popescu: yurp belongs
to
the scrap iron man
today. whether homebrew gangster or
imported, "the system" has utterly failed.
mircea_popescu: there's not a single nice guy with great sense of humor anywhere in sight. i suppose
they're all at
the library by choice.
mircea_popescu: the entire floor of
this very comfortable hotel i occupy (well,
the lesser rooms, i got
the nicer corner place) is occupied by large dudes in
the
tell-tale bodybuilding+tattoos color scheme and
their obvious hookers. and
they give me either upset or
terrified glares whenever we pass, i suppose depending on whether my girls happen
to be dressed ("hey, how come he has MULTIPLE?!?! unfare!!!") or not and i'm wielding a paddle o
mircea_popescu: "there is no such fish as
truite in french". what, it was my accent ?
diana_coman: well,
there were schools in
the uk where "children are ash-grey and can't
think of anything other
than food, what learning" -
that is closer
to hunger; but ofc
there is no cause
to be addressed
there, only rights
to be asked for
diana_coman: ah, I don't expect it's perceived by degrees, no; for as long as it can be not-perceived (i.e. no direct hunger, long hunger sort of
thing), it won't be perceived, no.
mircea_popescu: anyway. my point here is : attrition already happened 80% of
the way.
the difference between frenchgirl i recall from 1992 and frenchgirl i perceive in 2019 is staggering.