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KRS|Gotyawallet: wow there's a name from the past
KRS|Gotyawallet: used for purchasing fried chicken and watermelon at a discount
dub: mircea_popescu: finally a case for colored coins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg4029004#msg4029004
asciilifeform: anything which oscillates rapidly between 'draws plenty of power' and 'draws little' is: a transmitter.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine few consumer things being as loud as a Netburst era Pentium 4, for most definitions of loud.
mike_c: so the good news, as far as i can tell, is that you have to be decrypting a known, specially crafted message.
mike_c: amplifed over many thousands of iterations, resulting in a gross leakage effect that is discernible in the
mike_c: zero to appear frequently in the innermost loop of the algorithm, where it afects control fow. A single
mike_c: tldr: "In a nutshell, the key extraction attack relies on crafting chosen ciphertexts that cause numerical
asciilifeform: this is a variation on the old theme of cache probe attack
zz_: asiclifeform: isn't the CPU running at a few Ghz, while sound <20Khz? What exactly would the cellphone pick up?
the20year2: The hope/assumption in the beginning was that we would be able to outpace the appreciation of bitcoin through the way we are handling real estate. Growth has been fantastic, but it hasn't outpaced bitcoin like we'd hoped. So, then the hope later on, and it hasn't come to fruitition was a reverse hedge against BTC.USD drops like what we've been seeing. I tried to get investments again when BTC hit $1200 and few I talked
the20year2: mikaeldice: for us it was just a way to crowdsource funding on something that traditional investors wouldn't bite into
asciilifeform: nor is the 'low power state' feature of the microcontroller made use of; nor is there an operating system, in the usual sense, or a scheduler...
asciilifeform: virtually any device containing a switched power supply 'hisses' this way
asciilifeform: this is really from the fact that a pc cpu is a monster hog
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this attack is simply a variant of the traditional 'Differential Power Analysis' ☟︎
mikaeldice: A tiny bounty, but no entry fees. I don't want to take people's money, even if it'd make the challenge more interesting. At the same time, with little to gain, I would make the bounty much smaller
mikaeldice: I need some time to set it up. I don't want people calling it a scam, so I might just put up the server and make it a free for all
mike_c: on a different topic, what happened to your hack challenge mikael? still going to do it?
mikaeldice: It seems like you'd be taking on a lot of currency risk by sinking investors' BTC into fiat and then real estate
mikaeldice: You're in real estate, the20year2 ? What makes the volatility of bitcoin a good choice for investment funds? Last resort?
the20year2: We have decent legal council on retainer, our understanding seems to be good. Thankfully the SEC does have a grace period for US investors if we have any, and this last bitfunder purge brought it to our attention.
mike_c: if that is the direction you are headed, you are not going to want the monkey on your back of a thousand tiny btc investors.
the20year2: which is the threshold, since a PPM will require us to spend say $8k or so
the20year2: I will once I feel that we're sizable enough to warrant a PPM
the20year2: Of course, so then there's some other methods that he felt would be SEC compliant with what we're doing, and he felt (From what he knows) that ciphertrade might be a better candidate than havelock
the20year2: Yes and no, from his standpoint we can do it, as long as we attempt to set in place a measure to limit/keep US citizens from investing
mike_c: dexX7 just posted to a link to a paper describing what you want
the20year2: I'm asking this specifically in terms of doing this with backing up coins as a specific set interest in income producing real estate here in the US , then trying to figure a viable way to pay back coin holders interest
pankkake: you have to add a trust line to an issuer, and then you can use its currency
pankkake: if you want to back with something, you'd need a centralized issuer, and trust that issuer
the20year2: Is there a way to generate an altcoin that can pay out in other coins? I keep kicking around this idea of a coin backed by physical goods/items, but don't know a way to do it without inflating it , or paying out to holders
asciilifeform: reminds me of a 'chicken recipe' sometimes attributed to the gypsies. '1) first, steal a chicken...'
kakobreklaaa: http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/07/united-states-dollar-almost-doubles-in-value-in-a-single-day/
mircea_popescu: ajnd the buyer looks set to maybe turn a profit even
taub_: it's a bubble on a bubble
Namworld: That's a very retarded issue tho...
Namworld: It doesn't fade into background noise since it doesn't last long enough. And it doesn't alternates often enough to appear as a single noise.
Namworld: I got a new electronic thermostat and the heater in the room makes a faint but very strident noise. The problem is the new thermostat alternates the heater on/off every 5 seconds. Not often enough or infrequently enough to fade off to not notice it.
Namworld: No. You know how faint noises fades out after a while even if still there, even if irregular/clicking noise/etc?
kakobreklaaa: lemme take a guess, lost pgp key
kakobreklaaa: -a
kakobreklaaa: a
Vexual: id probably have the altitude record for a motorcycle crash with no injury
Vexual: if you want to hide in the fog of war so noone hears you coming, buy a honda
Vexual: well if you like a fine audial note, look to akwasaki
Vexual: but if you want to go fast a motorcycle is the only way
Vexual: give me a motorcycle any day
Vexual: theres a third
Vexual: thats why i dont own a lamborghini
Vexual: those guys can see the seat as they skin a thick swathe
nubbins`: and wear a new one the next day
Vexual: i even sued a law school i wasn't enrolled in for wasting my time and they settled
Vexual: i attended a lecture once, asked 3 questions; stack overflow
amidvidy: a recent systems course I took hammered that point in quite hard by having us read Google's "Paxos Made Live" paper
asciilifeform: amidvidy: this fact is not 'sexy', but it takes quite a bit of work to go from algo to usable software. (why this happens to be so, is largely the subject of my blog)
amidvidy: The author also wrote kademlia, this is his effort to design a DHT that is resistant to Sybil attacks
amidvidy: asciilifeform: I think I agree with you at a high level, that may be useless to try to reconstruct btc-based analogs of traditional institutions. That said, I think a p2p exchange could be useful
asciilifeform: and i stand by my hypothesis, that a p2p whatever might be interesting and useful, if not a replacement for any currently-existing widget as such
mircea_popescu: they could suck a planet throught a gardenhose.
ozbot: Loper OS » Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope.
amidvidy: which is why a successful colored coin trading network will be multitier. Tier 1 will contain high-volume "supernodes", similar to MPex, that provide low latency at the cost of some anonymity
amidvidy: The nice thing about a distributed exchange is that an actor can still behave correctly in the presence of partial information, unlike bitcoin
Bugpowder: it was a typo it seams
BingoBoingo: amidvidy: Bitcoin largely solves the problem of how to have a distributed ledger of accounts, this is very different from breaking up and distributing a whole exchange
mircea_popescu: you form beliefs about how a problem can be solved without having bothered to define it ;/
amidvidy: I guess I believe that the problem *can* be solved technologically. Just as bitcoin was a better technological solution than say, the Liberty Dollar
BingoBoingo: Remember when Havelock was just that weird little site than only wanted to trade a SatoshiDice Passthrough.
BingoBoingo: amidvidy: In most of those cases it wasn't so much a takedown as they surrended...
amidvidy: but i think there is a legitimate demand due to the takedown of sites like bitfunder, btctco, glbse, etc.
mircea_popescu: so have a bunch of other kids. it never goes anywhere, for the stated reasons.
Vexual: make a time machine and tell your womb to avoid mobile phones
amidvidy: wow, that is pretty persuasive. Regardless, I've been designing a Kademlia based exchange, with support for market and limit orders.
asciilifeform: disagree with: that barrister prince paul adeola is a solicitor at law?
mircea_popescu: "I am Barrister Prince Paul Adeola a solicitor at law." <<
BingoBoingo: amidvidy: Non-existence would be a great property to have
amidvidy: so what features would you want in a p2p colored coin exchange?
BingoBoingo: pizzaman1337: Or sell BTC to be delivered by Jurov, in a suitcase
pizzaman1337: so basically, you trade X.EUR if you want to sell BTC, but stay denominated in BTC, not on a traditional exchange, and with 40 EUR spread. Seems mostly like a promotion for B-C to me?
mircea_popescu: no no, your laziness is a phase
mircea_popescu: it's just a phase :D
pizzaman1337: so mpex-mktdepth.php doesn't return the order books sorted by price? that's a bummer...
davout: and it enables any party to actually trade the EUR without having an account at a regulated exchange
davout: the way i see it this contract has a couple main benefits
pizzaman1337: I mean, unless the options bot has tighter spreads... this could be a good option for going long BTC
mircea_popescu: then again maybe that's just me being a stick in the mud blocking progress
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 i suppose the idea is for this to remain mostly a large player thing, so no, probably no ui.
davout: mircea_popescu: i already have one and she's a lot of work
pizzaman1337: will there be a UI for that at some point?
davout: what's the point of being wealthy if it's not to own a garçonnière
davout: if you have EUR on a bitcoin-central.net you can exchange them for X.EUR on MPEx 1/1 for the time being
pankkake: it has a subreddit!
mircea_popescu: perhaps a misprint.
pankkake: I know very little about maths in C++ so I failed to make a smoother QE :(
mircea_popescu: for a while there mid 2012 the scammer mo was pretty much theswede's : make acct, donate, post 2k posts and buy some old accts.
jborkl: I looked to see what happened to our good buddy Ripple, it is now a donate your spare computing power to help the planet
jborkl: also a good predictor
BingoBoingo: If only scammer tags were still a thing
ThickAsThieves: so i left him a second negrating