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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i read that as 'MAOI party'
mircea_popescu: and computer programming, as understood today, same.
mircea_popescu: as older wouldn't be relevant to the story, being later. who knows, maybe she grew up to worship my footsepts.
asciilifeform: or as older etc
mircea_popescu: by herself ?! what, as a 12yo or w/e ?!
asciilifeform: about same % as in, e.g., mining camp ?
mircea_popescu: currently appears as "coven of women wanted to be slaves - as women often do ; ended up stuck with a bunch of beta dorks, because whereby to get a master! did the best possible under circumstances, which is... at best pretty fucking weird."
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [01:31:24] <asciilifeform> 'she who wears the magic bracelet of future-self delegation http://i.imgur.com/5Bfq4we.png prefers to do as she is ordered'
jhvh1: asciilifeform: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
asciilifeform: 'she who wears the magic bracelet of future-self delegation http://i.imgur.com/5Bfq4we.png prefers to do as she is ordered'
thestringpuller: nah. this book was launched as part of a "touring strategy" because 5 wheel solutions can't get any actual work
asciilifeform: eh not as if asciilifeform would be the ~first~ to know if brownshirt legion were recruiting, but likes to think he would not be the ~last~
asciilifeform: i still read him as an english-speaking zhirinovsky.
mircea_popescu: as per the von flondor doctrine.
asciilifeform: 'The NSA’s documents describe GHOSTHUNTER as a means “to locate targets when they log onto the internet.” It was first developed in 2006 as “the only capability of its kind” and it enabled “a significant number of capture-kill operations” against alleged terrorists. '
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536555 << 'flavours', as seen in zetalisp. released circa '79 iirc. ☝︎
asciilifeform: (missing metaobject protocol - no introspection; lack of even such a basic thing as the mix-in)
asciilifeform: alice_: think of it as a kind of boot camp.
asciilifeform: 'Yegge accidentally made an internal Google memo public on Google+ in October 2011. His 3,700-word comment garnered major media and blogger attention for Yegge's pointed commentary criticizing the leanings of the company's technological culture (such as labeling Google+'s minimalist and, in his view, lackluster public platform "a pathetic afterthought") as well as for his comments about his former employer, Amazon (such as calling Am
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well some of us have to do that as adults.
asciilifeform: i had this mike, and a modern one, as a boy, and compared.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller here's a little understood bit of corporate insanity : if a dying company dies normally, it is assumed the ceo & co were idiots ; if it dies as a result of doing something large and monunemtally stupid, it is assumed the ceo & team were brave souls who caught a bad break.
thestringpuller: this is why as an audiophile, I have a vinyl player at work.
mircea_popescu: no, you don't "identify as a pony". you pretend to be interested in a preteen cartoon show because a) trying to talk with preteens online and b) if you do it enough maybe it normalizes.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 03:27 trinque: afaik you identify as a pony or some shit
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin's marketing is predicated on poor "third world country" people adopting it for remittances. A high transaction fee network will come across as a betrayal. It is not something the powers that be will risk.' << didjaknow.
hanbot: heh, seems mircea_popescu and diana_coman co-own the term "pluriously", as per google
asciilifeform: esp. considering that if you show up with so much as a slingshot in public, but for some non-usg-approved reason, you will at the very least be relieved of your valuables (incl. slingshot) by police.
asciilifeform: conventional in the 'trb as we now have it' sense.
Framedragger: i guess it has a socialist bent to it - i thought - noobs won't read actual logs so might as well quote what's actually needed; and, it is useful for when it's just a couple of lines. but it does add to the thickness of logz.
Framedragger: i'm not sure regarding explicit list of bots for each bot for good citizenry / collaboration purposes, but as phf said his bot already does that, kinda.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that as discussion progresses, there will be genuine references that are very long./
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 13:30 Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160907/from:569/to:569#569 << interesting - but i agree with mircea_popescu here that it's not entirely relevant, as it's not meant in that sense. but, interesting
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/TnGrv -- 'For a while it looked as if the situation could escalate. A Justice Department lawyer representing the NSA demanded that Gilmore surrender his illegal copies and threatened that the NSA might send its own operatives, or FBI agents, to seize Friedman’s proofs from Gilmore. The cypherpunks were worried — especially Gilmore’s lawyer, Lee Tien. They were worried not just for their own per
mircea_popescu: and this is, as you notice, entirely divorced from that.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the miner conspiracy is in no way related to any of this ; however. if you recall, that disagreement as such resulted in entirely no friction.
asciilifeform: but i have nfi how to fit it in 1 line as other than 'elaborate work of evil, baited mousetrap.'
mircea_popescu: yeah sure, soon as apple's check clears.
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160907/from:569/to:569#569 << interesting - but i agree with mircea_popescu here that it's not entirely relevant, as it's not meant in that sense. but, interesting ☟︎
asciilifeform: he doesn't work for money and doesn't, as i understand, ever intend to.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as a model, i propose to you that there's no substantial difference between this and say your bizarro position re llvm yest.
mircea_popescu: ftr : my "fuck you, you may not be poor and be here" is not (as i'm certain oft perceived, because why the fuck not, it's easier) simply mp-superby. it is a strict and absolute necessity for one's own mental health.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it's trauma, dude. he did what he earnestly believed was right at the time ; turns out to have been entirely and unmitigatedly wrong. this is catastrophic, and especially so in poorly socialized, introverted, intelligent males. now gotta reevaluate everything, the evaluations often don't come out meaningful, the correct alternatives are frequently perceived as alf-impossible, it's a mess.
asciilifeform: as i understand, he now disbelieves in all of mircea_popescu that he had not personally seen
mircea_popescu: is the idea here that "whatever, we've already fucked ourselves with anyone with a clue, might as well say things that'd perhaps persuade a fraction of anyone else" ? or what, is "nigerian" more of a state of mind than a state of pigmentation ?
Framedragger: ‏‎asciilifeform:pankkake: the 'can't admit being wrong' thing is quite true, and whether you can afford dealing with mptronics, is very personal matter. so i do not actually disagree, as such, with pankkake.
Framedragger: btw ftr i want to thank punkman for recommending sopel bot (previously willie, if anyone's heard of it) as the core irc bot to be used. it's properly maintained, has clean code and good docs. https://sopel.chat/
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/alice0meta/scratch/blob/master/scratch.txt#L54 << lol read as "o crap i service"
alice_: god's an asshole, and it's complicated. i'm ready for anything i can understand as progress.
BingoBoingo: Whether God as you understand him is Satan, Our Noodly host, or deedbot
jhvh1: 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
asciilifeform: and whatever, maybe alice_ identifies as an old rusted kriegsmarine anchor in scapa flow, scotland.
trinque: afaik you identify as a pony or some shit ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think this was sent to us as gift from ze godz per this morning's thread.
asciilifeform: as per grahm's original anaphorics system
alice_: i added sd as a chord for ι because i do use ι frequently
ben_vulpes: well, what, as
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as opposed to well-spent on other missions?
ben_vulpes: typeset properly and segregated vault-reading from home-reading as the story goes
ben_vulpes: subject of manuals, a onetime airforce honcho straigh up vetoed the delivery of f22 manuals in xml (!), as pilots couldn't take the un-sensitive stuff home without also taking the sensitive stuff home as it was delivered
alice_: mm, not my fetish. as long as you get off on it :)
alice_: i don't think as easy without shit like x/2 and list[:-1]
alice_: i haven't figured out how to scale them up to something as syntax-complicated as javascript but i've found 80/20s pretty useful for practical infixy needs
asciilifeform: macro ~removes~ pattern. as in increasing the entropy (per, say, kolmogorov, or even chaitin's criterion) of the program.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=401 << as described here.
asciilifeform: i see 'design patterns' as language bug.
asciilifeform: 'These aren't people assembled for an actual reason, as a result of merits. These are people whose merits are supposed to be predicated on the mere fact of having been assembled. Not quite the same thing.'
mircea_popescu: as in examples given ?
mircea_popescu: there is a clear market in high assurance hardware to do things such as signing, encrypting and bitcoin payments where time is not a concern.
mircea_popescu: dude. no fucking body wants "same as your pc".
asciilifeform: the five grand does not buy 'same as your pc', it buys something quite rather more like what is in my bolix 3620.
trinque: all roads lead to make 50 billion dollars, then cry as alf says it's not enough ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "oh coincidentally, this name that keeps being dredged up by usg assets as supposed primary source ; which never EVER checks out"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : when nixon and rockefeller were negotiating the treaty of fifth avenue, nixon's / gop's "platform committee" was in a hotel in chicago. they were on the phone for four hours ; but midway, as midnight came by, THE HOTEL OPERATOR PULLED THE PLUG AND WENT HOME.
mircea_popescu: as it is, meh.
asciilifeform: 'Gunshot detection, alert and location identification – when a substation is attacked by gunfire it can result in significant damage to equipment and risk the safety of workers on site. A gunshot detection system typically can identify the type of firearm as well as the exact location from which it was fired. If video cameras are configured as part of the gunshot detection system, they may offer a visual image of the individual tha
asciilifeform: 'Around-the-clock monitoring of physical security at transmission and distribution substations can be a key factor in minimizing damage from a wide range of threats that are becoming more commonplace. It is well documented that unauthorized access to utility substations can result in hundreds of thousands of dollars in financial losses as well as cause power outages. Unauthorized access may cause such damage as a result of theft of m
asciilifeform: which has curios such as 'whitepaper: wireless for substation physical security.'
asciilifeform: (how i know this is left as exercise for the reader.0
trinque: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/world/asia/nsa-breached-chinese-servers-seen-as-spy-peril.html?hp&_r=0 << "But the plans went further: to exploit Huawei’s technology so that when the company sold equipment to other countries — including both allies and nations that avoid buying American products — the N.S.A. could roam through their computer and telephone networks to conduct surveillance and, if
mircea_popescu: this survives as late and far away as in ww2 anglo fictions, such as seen in cinema. dead guy wants his brother [in arms] to go to his gf and "tell her" things.
mircea_popescu: i recently watched fracture, which has all the might of a. hopkins and all around decent acting + good screenplay. except, of course, produced by the same people who keep pushing the same old stakhanovist retardation, as in eg http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:35/to:35#35
mircea_popescu: the testament of european-ity, as embodied by the greeks ; and later (1500s!) finally inherited by the italians is simply this :
asciilifeform: and don't fool actual people for so much as 5 seconds.
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes asciilifeform has a point in that penis makes for a fine way to make friends. the thing is that as i near 40, i'd dearly love some alternative method. this thing won't last forever.
asciilifeform: which does not have such a thing as 0-cost sybilmaking.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, that's the whole delusion of wot, in the minds of aspiring shamans such as yourself.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~entire point of wotronics is to eliminate 'field of worms as far as the eye can see in all directions' as a thing of this world.
mircea_popescu: the weakness of this scheme is exactly as described : fuzzing and the binary tree propagates a few through it all the way to you.
asciilifeform: i won't. as knuth does not.
asciilifeform: same as everybody.
mircea_popescu: no, he's be using the algo that beat sedol to create as many accounts as his electricity can power, and fuzz everyone out.
mircea_popescu: yeah, as contemplated in gossipd there is no difficulty. but mining, still exists.
asciilifeform: ( as per http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies )
asciilifeform: Framedragger: iirc nothing further came from this line of thought, to date, it is only interesting as gedankenexperiment.
mircea_popescu: heh. i have nfi how they imagined "decolonialism" will work out as anything other than "bitch, you're the african now".
mircea_popescu: think of it as town-sized eminent domain, if you will. govt improving the land occupation.
mircea_popescu: how is their government cancelled ? it's working exactly as they intended it to work.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: they're savvy enough to know how alt-left media will frame them. "oh you don't want to date shaniqua because you don't like her as a person ? racist!"
trinque: after it went away for a while I did a wget -R on the www as a backup, hoping the www wouldn't also disappear.