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mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other news, trilema has served 5.5 mn pages... this month.
asciilifeform: 'Thank you for contacting us. We will look into this.'
asciilifeform: (the muslim assoc, that is, not shitfinex)
asciilifeform: i wrote to them
BingoBoingo still really that Puget Sound Muslim Association was big enough news for Liztler to kill Buttfunex over it
mircea_popescu: campiest of drag queens today barely matches.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the romans : the whole "dickus maximus" bit in monty python is actually very strict scholarship. to the "rugged men of the fronteer", the speech of proper roman citizen sounded so fucking faggoty you can't imagine.
mircea_popescu: joke of the fucking year.
mircea_popescu: dude that fucking thing... i loled all over again
PeterL: perhaps should be "retroactively changes the meaning of the message"
mircea_popescu: "retroactively changes the meaning of text". what fucking text ? strings including "emoji" ipso facto carry no meaning.
mircea_popescu: i can't comprehend why anyone'd summon the interest to care. the only correct solution is to insist strict latin set exists throughout, and otherwise they can all get fucked.
phf: they have an encoding in circulation, that actually encodes text in terms of font glyph offsets, which was also the way emacs did it initially. the solution was written by japanese, was called MULE, and that was one of the first major flame wars naggum participated in. famously forked his own version, etc.
mircea_popescu: azn illiteracy is no excuse for doing things wrongly, which is why colonialism and the rape of nanking are more sensible policies than whatever the fuck's going on presently.
mircea_popescu: the ~only~ way to get useful symbolics, which does mean STRICTLY standardized symbols, is to have very few of them.
mircea_popescu: the notion of unicode is fucking stupid in the first place.
phf: the whole font changes meaning take two is coming from the japanese. they were actively promoting this idea back during early unicode standardization days, where there was a strong drive to include every idiosyncratic version of kanji in the standard, because "that's how my family writes it in our last name". ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
shinohai: Soon it will be a federal crime to use handgun or assault-rifle emojis
mircea_popescu: to this day "Exchange" in serbian is menjati, for this reason. two "i".
mircea_popescu: then the barbarians decided to hear distinction between i and j.
mircea_popescu: PeterL no, and leaving the greeks aside : one day some people decided to make an I that looked more like a J. sexier font, stylish, whatnot.
mircea_popescu: and hence numerous examples i'm too much of a business insider to bother fucking listing. who the fuck let these idiots write in the first place, they're an insult to the cattle that had to die for the vellum.
PeterL: aha, right, roman alphabet is just a transmutation of greek etc?
asciilifeform: PeterL: iirc winblowz used to ship with one such.
mircea_popescu: PeterL no. the "letters" you currently use are the result of FONT FLUCTUATION in the roman empire.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> this inevitably brings to mind the characters in BingoBoingo's links, who curse doctor for going to the root cause of bedridden maggot farm << See there was a purpose!
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell jurov pls to shares
asciilifeform: 'In March a Frenchman was actually jailed for sending his ex-girlfriend the pistol emoji, in what was interpreted as a threat. What if a joke sent from an Apple user to a Google user is misconstrued because of differences in rendering?' << lel
PeterL: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-change-pistol-emoji-toy-confusion-precedent-meaning-retroactive-2016-8 << asciilifeform mircea_popescu does this support "use alphabet not symbols", or is it just emojis are braindead lulz?
asciilifeform: lel, phuctor piece still top of tarddit 'netsec'
asciilifeform: mao's 'cultural revolution' - in fact, had a brief episode of nearly this, with the 'backyard steel' thing
asciilifeform: to move yet again up the stack: mining machinery is improved by engineers, who - if not went to a school, at least are literate - rather than by gawkers who 'drinkin' beers, beers, beeers' in front of the mine, suggest 'hey bubba let's weld on a SHIT HANGING OFF THE SIDEZ'
asciilifeform: well yes, there is sometimes a side drill
mircea_popescu: it's pressure-directed though.
asciilifeform: minus the articulation, lel
mircea_popescu: actually oil drillers use a version of your arm thing.
asciilifeform: at the very least, could pump away the soluble earth, and leave the rocks to be broken up, into same
mircea_popescu: it all comes down to durability, nothing else.
mircea_popescu: all this shit is made of solid steel mostly because earthmoving is barely a step away from direct abrasion. it's like making tools to push the grinder.
mircea_popescu: what, you want it to move earth ?
mircea_popescu has only vague contacts in minerals at that level.
asciilifeform: it isn't that the machine has never, or could never again, be improved, but that it can stand and work without gathering crowd of 'train pushing face' who want to weld forks, knives, onto it, to 'improve', and be paid for the privilege
mircea_popescu: in fact, the heavy machinery industry is today very much a "designer item" sort of thing, pretty much any large mine will order machinery to spec for its own particular use.
asciilifeform: note that somehow real bulldozer can work without attracting army of adult 'improvers'
mircea_popescu: i dun think so. to wit : every kid has a toy buldozer, which he does improvements to.
asciilifeform: there are fields with crystallized sanity, or at the very least sufficiently well-known hard priors, to make the sort of festering gangrene we live with here, quite unthinkable.
asciilifeform: for so long as maggoting on software is even ~thinkable~, the upper echelon of 'aspirational' maggots will bang on the door, and some - will get in.
asciilifeform: it is a necessary thing, but not a solution to the infestation in question
mircea_popescu: intolerance saves teh day.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, the solution seems to be quite simply vitriol. dissolve the "acceptance" blanket of idiocy.
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 17407531760166155857697 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Ismael de Moura Costa (email pessoal) <ismaelcosta@unb.br>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7ED61BA9F1483495BAB2CB60A5C9BE858F5C2B37C9856BDEE024A8C5518EB421
asciilifeform: http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bosch/stone.jpg << illustration to subj
mircea_popescu: it's ~like a fungus colony that secretes plastic substrate for itself to live on.
mircea_popescu: this is universally the fucking problem. and it's passively supported by idiots' tendency to build life support systems for themselves, hence the all-pervasive socialism.
mircea_popescu: idiots must be told they're dumb. often. loudly. in no uncertain terms.
mircea_popescu: so she ends up underwriting debt to "pursue" rank nonsense.
mircea_popescu: nobody ever told 20 yo girly, in her 16 or so years of active intellectual life to date, that she's fucking untalented and needs to go do something she can actually do. ☟︎
asciilifeform: well yes. consider the predicament of a maggot trying to feed on living flesh
mircea_popescu: if i start screaming at the idiots they WILL execute their job, and well. but absent my scream, they have no fucking idea they're doing a bad job, even. nobody ever told them so.
mircea_popescu: the reason argentines drive horribly, as well as are incredibly inept economically, and the reason for pretty much all visible misbehaviour is exactly the same : lack of negative reinforcement.
mircea_popescu: the point being that i have wisened to understand the problem. it is a lack of negative reinforcement.
asciilifeform: the most that can be accomplished is... what a mortician does
asciilifeform: no amount of individual tweezer work will undecay the flesh.
asciilifeform: for them to ever appear.
asciilifeform: there has to be decaying flesh in the mix
asciilifeform: to briefly go up the stack: 'gender comment commits' aren't cricket-level, they are maggot-level
mircea_popescu: alternatively there's some pheromone interaction or something. dunno.
mircea_popescu: yeah, maybe they hunt them, though i've never personally seen it.
asciilifeform: cat will devour ~any animal that is roughly in that size range, yes
mircea_popescu: borrowed a cat, to live there temporarily.
mircea_popescu: i also didn't mind them - but it did drive one girl positively crazy. couldn't sleep, eventually had a mild psychotic episode. so i got rid of them.
asciilifeform: that's the other end of advanced pest control - cultivate beneficial predators
mircea_popescu: judge your chances to get rid of that colony though.
asciilifeform: ah, see, these are a-ok
mircea_popescu: they patrolled all the outside walls constantly. being no damage they could do to rebared concrete... i really didn't see the harm.
mircea_popescu: no they were the black sort interested in bugs and whatnot.
asciilifeform: i wrote 'don't blame the mice' in it.
asciilifeform: ever live in a flat that CANNOT be cleaned short of demolition and flamethrower ?
mircea_popescu: the only practical starting point for hygiene in the mind of the golum is through forcing pain until a desired result. that it's unachievable through means available to the golum does not matter one iota.
asciilifeform: not attracting, not supplying array of crevices where they can hide from any form of killing
mircea_popescu: that's the thing. especially to the inferior man, "hygiene" does not exist, as an abstract. it may only exist as "mechanized individual squishing"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but hygiene starts as well as exists as a "better squishing". people given the "hey, it'd be elegant to wash" will wash and retain the bugs. people given the "hey, you will be in this dungeon until you squished all the bugs" given "hey, use this, works faster" WILL fucking wash.
mircea_popescu: being "inclusive" is not merely distasteful. it is actually something to carry on your conscience, as a murder, except worse.
asciilifeform: well, there is 'Если немца убил твой брат, Если немца убил сосед, — Это брат и сосед твой мстят, А тебе оправданья нет. За чужой спиной не сидят, Из чужой винтовки не мстят.' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: you're a bad person, there's no two wais about it, kiddy fuckers may be great or horrible. you're horrible, no great.
mircea_popescu: if you participate in "communities" that make this difficult, you are, personally, a bad person. it's not "oh, i'm just trying to on facebook".
mircea_popescu: if you are a guy who was on a list where a maggot tried to get in and you didn't, personally, flame and humiliate that maggot,
mircea_popescu: nevertheless - there must be collective guilt at work here, as a concept, for the opposition. if you are "a computer programmer", and you aren't part of the solution, you ARE part of the problem, ands personally responsible for it.
mircea_popescu: this is quite likely true.
asciilifeform: and not, as they usually contend, simply M units of unlucky, for M == number of maggots
asciilifeform: fact: folks who share their bed with maggots are different, in fundamental and interesting ways, from those who do not
mircea_popescu: well there is that.
asciilifeform: not only is it a mistake to ask the maggots, but likewise it is mistake to ask the maggot-farmer
asciilifeform: this inevitably brings to mind the characters in BingoBoingo's links, who curse doctor for going to the root cause of bedridden maggot farm
mircea_popescu: merely opening the matter of should to the maggots is a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: no. a sane examinator always begins by twisting the necks he can, not the necks he "should".
asciilifeform: a sane exterminator would begin by asking why the bed has 100kg of maggots in it to begin with
mircea_popescu: i get that it's a diffuse, socialist, retarded sort of forcing where nobody actually does anything that could possibly be upon them. but that dun matter so much, if you end up pushed out of bed by a colony of maggots, THE MAGGOTS DID IT.
mircea_popescu: they go exactly fucking opposite. this is forcing.
mircea_popescu: instead of everyone laughing her into bulimia, and weekly egging and tping the house in which basement she dwells,