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a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:48 asciilifeform: 'aristotle: your postulates are just as circular!' 'asciilifeform: i made a working diode from things i dug up' 'aristotle: you just got lucky'
asciilifeform: to an 'aristotelian', i imagine even what passes for sane engineering, is repulsive, because of this.
asciilifeform: PeterL: i dun think i ever once said 'not answerable', lol
mircea_popescu: heck, if it only does verify and encrypt i'm happy.
mircea_popescu: if it does sign, verify, encrypt and decrypt i'm happy.
mircea_popescu: well no, i'm sure it's there, just, i also don't currently know exactly how it works. though in my case could be for lack of caring, i haven't been doing any building in 15 years +
PeterL: sorry if I misunderstood, but it sounded like asciilifeform was saying that questions like this are not answerable by anybody
mircea_popescu: i agree, the people who study subjects should be able to answer questions in subjects.
PeterL: well, I am not materials science expert, but those who study the subject should be able to explain "if I add a bit more of $element, the properties of the material will go $direction"
mircea_popescu: "i have this inorganic polymerization model which permits me to predict the behaviour of calcium-based matrices and also predicts that should you replace the calcium with strontium, the oxigen content cvadruples ans there's need for an item extra in there that's just like aluminum for so and so reasons" ☟︎
asciilifeform: PeterL: i can describe in roughly similar terms what the molybdenum does in modern steel. but not why needs such-and-such % , for different machineabilities.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-10 16:53 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by the 'to your eyes' standard -- i dun think i own any artifacts that work to any other standard. even cement block -- we do not presently know precisely why cement hardens.
mircea_popescu: i don't get how the necessary situation whereby conflict will follow age gap somehow changes what the conflict is about.
mircea_popescu: not like i'm saying it muyst fit ; or that i expect or i expect anyone expects history to be a neat didactic work for the benefit of future livers.
asciilifeform: fair'nuff. tho i was hoping to turn up a neal-stephonson-esque ( he was rather fond of the idea, in his http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760798 ) scene where the logicians opened up on the unwashed ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i turned up empty in search for occasion where oxford fired the cannons
asciilifeform: i.e. problem was not in 'shortage of component base', there.
asciilifeform: fwiw e.g. FUCKGOATS is repeatable, for so long as component base is available. ( and i include paper schematics & listing with it, for a reason..) but the direr problem is the shortage of literate operator who even knows wtf he is holding in hands
asciilifeform: but if it is possible in particular instances, and i'm missing it, i'm all ears.
asciilifeform: generally i dun work with 'make technology that will survive fullbore apocalypse ~as technology~ (vs indiv artifacts) ' -- this is above asciilifeform's paygrade.
asciilifeform: i.e. spiffy but doomed-through-nonrepeatability artifacts.
asciilifeform: possibly i am missing a subtler mircea_popescu subthread , but asciilifeform's orig puzzler was 'how to avoid making a bolix', if you will.
mircea_popescu: aaanyways, i'll bbl.
mircea_popescu: "but mp -- i am not equipped to try for myself!" "then this isn't a point of interest to you, is it. why'd you have an opinion on it ?" "because we're trying to build an Empire of Science!" "how's that working out ?" "so far, Republic of Idiots works."
mircea_popescu: to then take this wot-process and try to mechanize it ("instead of going and trying by self as science ie http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/ REQUIRES of me i shall simply say "was not replicated") is doomed to the same failure all wot-mechanization attempts are in principle doomed to
mircea_popescu: perhaps ' that "replication" is the schnelling'd-upon point of ~expression~ of literate heuristics is fine and dandy' requires some explanation. the correct wot-process ("what of x?" "a claims so but i have not found the same -- go, try for yourself") was contracted in "failed to replicate x".
asciilifeform: i'll add that a tech that can only be operated by the literate -- is replicable , for so long as literate folx are.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp -- i don't mean absolute replica ; functional replica suffices" "then here's my recipe to replicate fire : slap girl's cheek middling hard. it'll turn some shade of reddish blue and give off heat for a time."
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine what sense does this make, to put iliteracy as the gatekeepeer to technology.
asciilifeform: like it or not, 'faberge egg' is not a good weapon. to which i'll add that imho trb only recently (with 'aggression') graduated from 'faberge' status, previously noad required regular babysitting, and i've found that this is no longer so
mircea_popescu: i do not perceive my time is strictly wasted with the phillies. unlike assembliline, assemblycunts are satisfying on a deeper level.
asciilifeform: generally i say 'phd assemblyline' lol
asciilifeform: otherworldly << to riff on herr newton, 'i have no need of that hypothesis'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by the 'to your eyes' standard -- i dun think i own any artifacts that work to any other standard. even cement block -- we do not presently know precisely why cement hardens. ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is the model of 'magic' i was thinking of.
mircea_popescu: girl (or, i suppose, "bottom", to not exclude spuriously half the discussion) is more than happy to go out of her skin. if you ask her to.
asciilifeform: and evidently the greek meatstick is not overwhelmingly superior instrument, or would have taken over globe and we wouldn't even think to have the thread, unless i'm missing something
asciilifeform: i.e. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-26#934786 ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: note that there's a problem here. that i, personally (and not explicably) manage somehow to be sexually attractive to women less than half my age as i was to women over twice my age has very little to do with anything and i wouldn't expect it systematizable.
asciilifeform: i suspect that there's a missing term in this equation. e.g. turing did not, afaik, create any great maths folx with his (very active) cock
asciilifeform: worked out, i guess, for the greeks... for a spell
mircea_popescu: honestly, i would expect (if your http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-09#1848929 is right, at any rate) that the republic will be mostly homosexual. ☝︎
asciilifeform: for all i know, the year's 1944, and there's that ~one~ dish of penicillum in existence.
asciilifeform: if there's another mircea_popescu somewhere, likewise curing, i do not presently know about it.
Mocky: I've witnessed in my grown children to my horror and despair
asciilifeform: i've personally witnessed 'mul by 10?! where is calculator'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have personally witnessed "could not estimate laptop charger chord is not going to reach" visually, from five yards away, had to do the actual manual comparison. so yes, that's my overarching point -- IM are universally stupid in a very strict sense, unfit to lvie in world.
asciilifeform: 'Thanks for the offer, but we already have methods of becoming a sponsor. I'd like to give that opportunity to up to 10 groups/companies/people through patreon. I hope you'll understand.' << lol!!
mircea_popescu: but i guess that was coincidental, model works quite well i nthe general, including cases such as "TW looking for IM" like say http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-todays-lulz-the-obnoxious-cocksucker/
mircea_popescu: i suppose, in a degenerate case. my original example was "business" of a certain sort of "free man on free soil" outlook, like "online casino" or whatever other mlm-for-the-2010s things.
asciilifeform: i puzzle over this q : where are the theos-without-becks hiding ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:21 weevlos: 1) that's not my call to make, i am only one employee
asciilifeform: i dunno if i can correctly model the weevils writhing around in that skull, but imagine it went something like ' i was looking for new isp, not to change religions '
mircea_popescu: understand : woman saying "i don't have sex" is a fine approximation of "i don't have sex [unless you convincingly ask me to]". meanwhile "i don't suck dicks without permission" connotes "well, you were passed out, i asked three times like the jews, in all directions, and as there was no answer i figured...welll... here's a dick..."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the name sounds familiar, but i think the bulk of him happened before asciilifeform tuned in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno if you recall this naphex character. possibly the best illustration of the concept republic's to date known (though he was doing iirc webcams or exchangesd or somesuch, not directly casinos. but -- just as marginal a cvasi-business)
asciilifeform: i'd go as far as to say that the principal enemy is the pseudorepublic, the gapons.
asciilifeform: i admit that i was slightly surprised that there wasn't at least 1 casino etc d00d immediately banging on the door, of the only (afaik) isp that offers trng
a111: Logged on 2018-09-10 15:30 mircea_popescu: "why are you reading that crap ?" "because i wish to know how the news relates to me. spoiler : it doesn't." is verbatim contained in the slavic word's meaning.
mircea_popescu: "why are you reading that crap ?" "because i wish to know how the news relates to me. spoiler : it doesn't." is verbatim contained in the slavic word's meaning. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in short : i am saying that "the problems" that naive holdouts from the 80s and 90s perceive confront "the open web" are chiefly in their imagination. the truth of the matter is that the same sort of scum that creaded the 1950s pravda in the first place are simply re-implementing it out of "web" nowadays.
mircea_popescu: but i seriously do not see the need for a "web" to support this nonsense. they'd be much better served by a single pravda. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but i mean, seriously, this particular fragment repeated verbatim dozens of times AND NOTHING ELSE ?
mircea_popescu: "i have no money, no job, and Bernie has been the biggest political influence in my life"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i suppose my wut is spurious ; while it's true i can eat it about as much as salt, nevertheless salt ALSO comes in kg boxes. << It doesn't really come in much smaller packages. They go UP from here.
asciilifeform: i think they're using the same trains
mircea_popescu: this was a poem i wrote.
mircea_popescu: trades so much on the latin underneath, i give you 0% chances!
asciilifeform: ( and i walked no more than 30km of bucharest )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i think 'inhabitants of current bucharest', immediately think of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730399 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, i rewatched http://trilema.com/2011/aurora/#selection-49.276-53.70 and the original comment very much stands. anyoen want to know why "romanians" (esp in the sense of "lives in bucharest cca 2010") should've been fucking shot...
asciilifeform: i could eat whole can ( but wouldn't , these days )
mircea_popescu: i suppose my wut is spurious ; while it's true i can eat it about as much as salt, nevertheless salt ALSO comes in kg boxes.
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin has become the preferred payment method for Stormfront, the oldest and largest white supremacist...' << ~they~ dun have pubkey either, last i saw
mircea_popescu: i dun see anything wrong with either approach. having them all have current block height as trinque says, correctly reflects present situation. having them have whatever other denotation you choose (some kind of reconstructed "blocks as it were") has the advantage that it reflects historical knowledge. neither of these is important : FUTURE manifest.txt versions can reflect w/e we want them to then.
mod6: No need to answer now, actually. I'll just write it up and post it here for review.
trinque: mod6: I figure giving them the same block times is the right thing, since it's entirely true (and useful to denote) that they were all added to manifest.txt at that time
mod6: trinque: Thinking about it here quick, I think I ought to have all of them in there for what is included in a "proper trb". Adding them all in now, would give them all similar block times, but that's fine. It is what it is.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 18:11 mircea_popescu: in entirely unrelated non-news, the surprised by joy thing has been most read article this month since the day it was published. it's so fucking rare for a same-month article to even rank... i wonder wtf happened there.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-09#1848896 << btw reading the title i cannot help but think of later esr's 'surprised by wealth' lulgem ☝︎
lobbes: roger that. I'ma update post and head back to lab
lobbes: Well okay then. I'm going to move forward with auctionbot dealing 100% in ecu. Meaning users will need to convert their input to ecu even if dealing outside of #e. (which, I'm fine with. atm Ecu allows me to simply use integer data type and also allows users to deal in fractional satoshis)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have a (limited) idea
lobbes: I'm also fine with it being 100% ecu
lobbes: aha, glad I asked.
asciilifeform: waiwat i thought the whole point was euloratronic bot
mircea_popescu: illustrative example : 1. ruler says "whosoever eats this delicious treat will be whipped". 2. john and jane eat it. 3. john is brought for judgement, "wtf ?" "i did not understrand eating the treat i ate is the eating of the treat you were talking about" "a ok, moron" ; 4. jane is brought for judgement, "wtf ?" "i did not understand you saying so and so whipping applies to me." "what ?" "i am pregnant."
asciilifeform: i see 2 separate q here -- a) 'can evolve this from earthlings' (possibly not, path-dependent) b) 'could physically exist such a critter' ( unknown, but i dun see any fundamental whynot )
mircea_popescu: i can't.
mircea_popescu: i guess!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in entirely unrelated non-news, the surprised by joy thing has been most read article this month since the day it was published. it's so fucking rare for a same-month article to even rank... i wonder wtf happened there. << USG.Blue&Red derps suspecting steganography?
asciilifeform: 'what can you do' 'i can matlab'
mircea_popescu: in entirely unrelated non-news, the surprised by joy thing has been most read article this month since the day it was published. it's so fucking rare for a same-month article to even rank... i wonder wtf happened there. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-08 17:18 mircea_popescu: "I am not to be common, Kyle, ok? I am a creature like no other. I know that. I am a creature like no other. And I will not -- I willnot be common. "
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's shockingly rare to see kiddo come up to instructor with anythiong but "i wanna be * commander". because http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-08#1848730 amirite, erryone's a lord and there's no serfs anywhere. ☝︎
asciilifeform pictures kiddo who shows up to recruiter, 'i wanna be submarine commander! i played 9000 hrs of 'sea battle' ! '
mircea_popescu: that, i can explain. us 80s notion of space travel (inherited from 1960s french, as seen eg in http://trilema.com/2013/hibernatus/ ) involves the notion of sending families in ecosystems.
asciilifeform: and yes i liked civ1, liked 'battlezone' also but did not imagine that 'battlezone' teaches irl tank tactic
asciilifeform: gotta say, i liked civ1. it aint a replacement for learning actual earthling history, tho
asciilifeform: nah i suspect 'common ancestor', the 'linear history' where 'newton sat down to..'