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mircea_popescu: anyway. what's dogen got to say to this fellow ; entirely disinterested in "utility" as he finds himself ?
mircea_popescu: i knew these ~by heart as a kid.
asciilifeform: lel in same way as gogol.
asciilifeform: phf: one day i would like to learn what i might have missed by setting the bozo bit on everything these people so much as sneezed on.
mircea_popescu: and in other convenient coincidences, as per 문전본풀이 the goddess of kitchen and the goddess of outhouse had an argument, therefore koreans may not take things from kitchen to toilet or vice-versa.
phf: madam blavatski and her followers did a lot of damage for years to come. it was literally in her writing that original meaning doesn't matter, as long as the translation sounds cool (there's a rationalization for why that somehow supposed to make sense) ☟︎
phf: mircea_popescu: i read nishijima translation, and the guy went out of his way to make it unreadable, but as precise as he could render. i can read japanese grammar, and nishijima's version comes with a lot of kanji annotations. i've checked some of his claims, and they check out as far as it goes.
phf: there are some interviews with feynman where he's trying to explain how doing science is a constant game of catching yourself lying to yourself long before it becomes a question of "scientific community" etc.. dogen is coming from the opposite direction of learning to see things clearly as a goal, and a lot of his essays are descriptions of what he saw
mircea_popescu is vaguely irked by the whole "overthink your communication and only make it if it 'benefits' " as if that's somehow possible.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you happen to recall thread where we found photos of folks who got 'amontilladoed' as late as 1920s in stone pillars somewhere in or near mongolia ?
mircea_popescu: lobbes i dun wanna allocate @ at all ; and i'm going to skip # as a first character also. how about you know !Q
PeterL: just realized I set scoopbot up to recognize http as links but not https, fixed that now
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i guess there's always that. looks like a full list of the codes is here, which is now on the directory as well : http://archive.is/iWEm2#selection-967.0-967.670
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&as_q=%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%98 << many wins.
Framedragger: [ ah. regarding link archiving - for anyone looking to do it in their bots - as regards archive.is, no need to POST with sekrit IDs etc - just GET http://archive.is/?url=your_url&run=1 ]
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski move it as per teh spec.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 13:50 Framedragger: http://i.imgur.com/2ZGTzLM.png mircea_popescu gently pushing all #trilema people to move to jobs where there is no such thing as nsfw. public service i guess
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541745 << it's actually part of a larger thing - september, the international month of women discarded as garbage. ☝︎
trinque: mircea_popescu: I just fired up a python markov thing with my logs as input
asciilifeform: spec, as usual, 'is willing' while 'the flesh is weak'
asciilifeform: just as left, right, up, down...
Framedragger: BUT i didn't check if it was actually the same AS number
Framedragger: i meant, these keys are from the same autonomous system as the ones just before. AS number 5650, "Frontier Communications of America, Inc."
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 08:03 Framedragger: same AS as before iirc
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 13:50 Framedragger: http://i.imgur.com/2ZGTzLM.png mircea_popescu gently pushing all #trilema people to move to jobs where there is no such thing as nsfw. public service i guess
Framedragger: http://i.imgur.com/2ZGTzLM.png mircea_popescu gently pushing all #trilema people to move to jobs where there is no such thing as nsfw. public service i guess ☟︎☟︎
deedbot: F2A9449DD132B741E416A13E54403D06BFBB0578 registered as supersechi.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541600 << i can't get past the wtf. i mean, why not give king solomon , or frederick the great, 'the nuke button' just as well ! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so i don't actually need to know what it was archived as.
Framedragger: form on archive.is is simple PeterL, just need to get a "sekrit id" to then include it in the POST. also don't assume that all post requests succeed / archive.is gives the same answer, as shinohai noted
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 11:48 Framedragger: PeterL wrote a url scooper, maybe he wants to do the url post to archive.is part as it'd be very trivial anyway?
Framedragger: PeterL wrote a url scooper, maybe he wants to do the url post to archive.is part as it'd be very trivial anyway? ☟︎
Framedragger: same AS as before iirc ☟︎
trinque: with smelly things such as html, I tend to avoid making them the canonical representation of an item
trinque: we could go as wild as grammar for commands/args
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541531 << these turn up periodically, and i mentioned it here not so as to encourage folks to play 'whack-a-mole' but to illustrate that bitcoin's socket handling sucks donkey balls ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://66.media.tumblr.com/26ef780a6217be674356a057818ae453/tumblr_o9pxbhtW4L1u5he87o1_500.jpg < as the romanian joke goes, "what's the peak of sexual exhaustion ?" "when you ejaculate powder."
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#692 << it is worth noting that the deficit as accounted for is just about 10% of the gdp as accounted for, which is to say one's probably understated and the oither probably understated.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [22:22:28] <pete_dushenski> frankly, it'd be swell as hell if mp and alf continued this debate in the comments section there - a la gossipd thread model - and then we'd have something to look back on weeks, months, or years from now.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: there is such a thing as logs
pete_dushenski: frankly, it'd be swell as hell if mp and alf continued this debate in the comments section there - a la gossipd thread model - and then we'd have something to look back on weeks, months, or years from now.
asciilifeform: and does anyone find it strange that the dude was not tried for the electrically fired pistol, which is banned as 'convertible to full auto' in usa ?
asciilifeform: i suppose if heemeyer had showed off his killdozer on youtube instead of killdozing immediately when he finished building it, he would have gone to same place as this fool.
asciilifeform: the part mircea_popescu took issue with was, as i understand, the mapping of 'rng that broadcasts to planet' into 'ip network' (which does not have such a thing as broadcast.)
mircea_popescu: most people approach spec work as a positive endeavour ; which is why mine read so bewildering at first.
mircea_popescu: and this is rather what a specification is. doesn;t allow you to produce a human ; but it allows me to reject some of your "human" products as not-human.
asciilifeform: see, if you say 'fuck so strong that it leaves me unable to get up' then you did not actually specify anything, but merely offered the use of your head as a physical test standard,like that kilogram weight in france.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [17:46:58] <trinque> llvm will never actually implement c/c++ as currently "specified" by the existence of gcc
mircea_popescu: separately, if you want to register a bot you can have autovoice for it ; but in general it's a good idea to sort out the part where it voices itself as we're headed that way ; the autovoice thing is a stopgap and temporary.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [16:49:30] <asciilifeform> the impracticality of 'code as specification' is wholly from the nonexistence of sane programming systems
asciilifeform: and that (b) means either being retarded (services built on tcp, such as www and irc) or some variation on udp.
asciilifeform: the only computer program that qualifies to be thought of as an ideal object is one which fitsinhead.
asciilifeform: the fundamental mistake of 'spec by gcc' is to consider a large computer program as an ideal object.
asciilifeform: just as folks allergic to cat often do not know that they are in fact allergic to a certain parasitic mite that lives in the animal's fur.
asciilifeform: this is why i suspect that folks such as mircea_popescu are not allergic to the idea of a program specifying a concept, but of a concept that CAN ONLY BE specified by THIS HERE PROGRAM
asciilifeform: a specification can exist as a real object (which is very painful, consider the standard kilogram block, or trb) or an ideal object.
asciilifeform: (it 'optimizes' away essential security checks, as discussed in at least 2 past threads )
trinque: llvm will never actually implement c/c++ as currently "specified" by the existence of gcc
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if we did not go to highschool and did not learn how an ODE is solved.
asciilifeform: rather than from same impracticality as 'the 10-34 thread is this here screw in washington'
asciilifeform: the impracticality of 'code as specification' is wholly from the nonexistence of sane programming systems
mircea_popescu: this idea of "code is specification" is on about the same level of intellectual sophistication as "definition by example". ie, something morons with schoolhouse jobs do.
mircea_popescu: maybe ; but a spec is not defined as "can mechanically be transformed into a working program".
mircea_popescu: not sure who'd describe average working crack whore as sentient. ~same sentience as cow.
mircea_popescu: riding cattle herders, like the cowboys, or Gingis Khan's men) about 0.04 or so ; and ancient world agriculturalists can get as high as 0.2 people per square kilometer.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'their' industry, as i understand, is in shanghai.
asciilifeform: will be known again as soon as chinese tractors quit coming in.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i suspect this is the whole recipe of south amercan socialism : "we're just as much a bunch of idiot subhuman iron age farmers ; unlike lenin we won't fuck with proletkult"
mircea_popescu: as the police joke goes, "every victim describes the assailant's gun the same way : it was big"
asciilifeform: certainly would not abide barrel in the face as pictured, etc.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure a) those neurotic ceramic salesgirls don't matter-of-factly expose their cunt as seen there and b) they've no guns.
asciilifeform: something is buggy here, 'trayvon' would not be found withing a cannon's shot of 'burning man' as i understand.
asciilifeform: also the 'thief isn't asking anything' model is quite a bit off. the 'dindus' of bmore are as actively managed and externally fed as the animals in any other zoo. no less so than the white suburban folk. neither sows, nor reaps, etc.
asciilifeform: but it does fear the thief. at the very least, as a class. rulers who interfere with a mass plunder in progress tend to develop 'problems'.
mircea_popescu: it's not even in any way ~aware~ mb&ws trabajador even exists, as any sort of separate or separable entity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all kids are born in shit. as the gypsy wife said to her husband, "do we wash it or do we make another"
mircea_popescu: hey, i have chicks that started life as americans.
mircea_popescu: what i'd be more interested in is, if BingoBoingo can explicit the "honor code" symbol as used by lafond, seeing how i read much less than him from the man.
asciilifeform: as i recall, lafond is old man, has no women.
mircea_popescu: i sure as fuck am not about to go watch di maggio pitch with him ; nor drink the beer-flavoured-sprite he guzzles. and i'll fuck his woman, without any concern for him ; while he can't fuck mine, because she won't put up with his dumb head. life is so unfair.
asciilifeform: his thought process, as i gather, was roughly 'there were picketfences. and working men Got Things. and petrol was twopence/gallon. and then the weevils came. and the zombies came. if we could be rid of the zombies, of the weevils...'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540902 << if mircea_popescu built a rotor, he has same STATIC musltronic binary as other people with his patchset. which includes malloc etc. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540898 << mircea_popescu never used, afaik, the verstring patch, his heathen traffic is small , as prb ignores his nodes. which is one possible reason behind his sometimes isolation on the path to miners. not all - but many - paths lead through prb heathendom. ☝︎
asciilifeform: well given as ben_vulpes was likely connecting to my boxes, he is seeing a quite similar mempool landscape to mine.
pete_dushenski: bbl as well
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: At her age aspiration pneumonia is a concern. As a Clintion chemical induced pneumonia can not be dismissed either. Even a fungal Aspergillis infection is possible due to dope smoking.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly as it works nao.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#993 << i had a very pleasantly mild red hot chilli in a stu last week. cut it in hand, above the pot as it was simmering. thought nothing of it, ate the stu, moved on with life. that night, i took a hot bath, and i drew the conclusion my hand had somehow gone frostbitten indoors.
pete_dushenski: it came to me not in a dream but just as i was falling asleep. i didn't write the 'bot directory' idea down because... same reason einstein didn't carry notebook
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#935 << word ; http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#937 << then you talk to all. there's no such usg.all as you use defined in this space.
asciilifeform: i regard case-sensitive search as ~useless.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last 4 comments add up to pretty much whole idea as i conceive it.
phf: usg, as represented by bureau of land management
mircea_popescu: i tell her i dun have any ; she explains that... "it's not her rules". i turn around, ask guy to open door as we're leaving, they go frenzied on the phones, eventually girly is like "no problem, no problem".
phf: it's very much an act from cause place by design, and if mp comes as mp and does his mp thing, only people who will complain should and must be fucked with.
mircea_popescu: i suppose at a young age merely rubbing on a large aggregate of human bodies counts as a use.
asciilifeform: because as i understand 'burningman', it is a similar item
asciilifeform: now i gotta ask, would mircea_popescu bust into 'disneyland' to remind the childrenz that there aren't actually any such thing as friendly gigantic mice ?
mircea_popescu: if were gonna pour water, could as well poured it there as here.
asciilifeform: as per last year's thread.