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mircea_popescu: this is not lazy, this is sane. not every slant of roof gets a tower, because things aren'
t all equal, and something must be the bottom.
mircea_popescu: well, ima start over now. isn'
t that fucking wunderbar.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fact i can'
t actually patch it out as it won'
t match the correct file huh, it does line by line removal
trinque: only for curiousity's sake. it certainly isn'
t worth using over what's in the V tree.
trinque: I don'
t even remember what the shell script would've been. Probably some stab earlier at what became the makefiles
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-13#1626306 << on top of that i brought it up with a whisperer, i got back "oh yeah, the loper os guy! i emailed him some time ago, but didn'
t get any response. he probably thought i'm some kind of tourist."
☝︎ mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo o wow don'
t tell me the "bitcoin crashes because usg postures re its own paper bitcoin-ersatz" thing failed to last the week
BingoBoingo: Apparently though their fixation on Trump leads them to forget you can'
t spell Trump without MP
ben_vulpes: oh i thought the failure of the don'
t-call-it-an-etf ripped the buy side clean out of the market though
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 01:41 phf: asciilifeform: i don'
t think that's a wasted effort. i got in touch with zeptobars people again, and my current best option (since they said shipping to russia is maddness) is to travel moscows sometime in summer and hand deliver the chip. assuming that i have one, but i take it you're no longer interested since "snap4 source"
mircea_popescu: ugh. between the blog and the log he didn'
t find anything ?!
fake_space_whale: Is there an intro to trilema somewhere? I tried poking around the website and didn'
t find anything in my brief hunt.
mircea_popescu: it is a very false idea that what we say here "is in the open" and thereby "anyone could" etc. the prb devs can'
t, notwithstanding their own delusions of information and ability.
Framedragger: this would require a decently thought out testing framework (i don'
t mean shitty-web-framework, just, a systematized approach)
mircea_popescu: you won'
t see 239 cuz it timeouts at 240 lol. and if you wait enough might even see 278.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> signatures don'
t match, scripts are bad, inputs are bad, outputs are too long, on it goes << yeah, exactly. eventually coverage like this is a must. eventually.
mircea_popescu: yes, if you meant "maybe alf typos the code and doesn'
t notice" then yes, expect.
mircea_popescu: but i wouldn'
t say "when i pull trigger i expect round to discharge". because i don'
t.
mircea_popescu: i expect girl to shave. ie, tomorrow. i don'
t expect anything out of the floor.
mircea_popescu: signatures don'
t match, scripts are bad, inputs are bad, outputs are too long, on it goes
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes isn'
t all teh butthurt delicious though ? "we are very upset that apparently we don'
t matter ; also we won'
t mention mp's warning about all this because then it won'
t burn so much."
mod6: *to me doesn'
t mean
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> bashops uber alles << yeah, CI to mean doesn'
t mean "must use current devop-isms". we could build our own automated toolset. np.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in theory they shouldn'
t be capped outside of the block size.
mircea_popescu: because block 500 with hash x can'
t be followed by block 501 with hash x equal to itself because that block 501 would be trying to spend outputs that are already spent.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t think at the time he did this he had a very clear idea of the mempool / blockchain tx disjunction.
phf: (searching through a particular press doesn'
t work yet)
phf: that's another reason, why i don'
t for example, "hack my python with vim like a real hacker". give me the filthiest, most feature rich IDE, where i can just push spacebar to get half of my scaffolding, or whatever kids these days
☟︎ jurov: don'
t forget the part about proper management of secrets on the master and general resilience of master against attacks from clients/minions
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: 'tisn'
t as though hftbro is exhaustive banger-on of every dumb thing, just the ones he's faced with
Framedragger: (even hft guy doesn'
t have anything bad to say about ansible)
ben_vulpes: oh don'
t even get me started on the ways in which the laptops don'
t behave deterministically
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well computers don'
t work per sane definitions of working
trinque: really it's a reaction to poverty, "lala no I really can'
t hear my neighbor taking a shit"
mircea_popescu: until you have net interface that somehow (how the fuck ?!) doesn'
t get to read/write to memory, your isolation is soup served in a calender.
mircea_popescu: "can'
t say our democracy is a waste of everyone's time". ooops...
Framedragger: that said, docker's 'main aim' isn'
t even isolation for the sake of security, so my weak point is even weaker.
mircea_popescu: "i did not say this before any implementation failed though -- it was fine while it wasn'
t obviously failing"
mircea_popescu: trinque "socialism is not a bad concept just wasn'
t correctly implemented."
Framedragger: *sigh* i'll grant it that concepts are leaky and can'
t apply hammer to all problems etc etc; but you can'
t pretend that the core concept of isolation is not useful. just isolating fs, process, and network is already useful.
ben_vulpes: silicon-valley developer finger trap. can'
t go away soon enough.
ben_vulpes: "oh, no, why would you ever want to do that? aren'
t you a professional opsbro? with centralized logging? containers are ephemeral, you low-dough derp! they crash and go away!"
Framedragger just had some cold borscht. << amazing and recommend for those who haven'
t tried
Framedragger: i have some good memories from using bsd jails some years ago. the core concept of isolation (fs, process, network, etc) is not bad. providing integrated interface not a bad thing, either. problem with docker is it doesn'
t do it in a consistent way, is too bloated, is ~proprietary +/-, and does the abstraction in a way that invites lazy people to be even more lazy and reckless.
mircea_popescu: so "consumer fs is great if you don'
t use it". hey, check it out, exactly like the us army, or for that matter cia, apparently.
Framedragger: you're right, the growth *won'
t* be linear. but...
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: which means that i don'
t see how it could work even given mystery-amazing fs performance (...), *space-wise*.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn'
t surprise me if a corner case were discovered where THIS permits doublepsend
mircea_popescu: (and if the foregoing didn'
t happen where you went to school... you didn'
t.)
mircea_popescu: what i want to hear is, (preferably proof) as to why journaling filesystem can'
t store files in directories!
mircea_popescu: (pretending for a second the design is sane, which it isn'
t -- who the fuck counts by int a set of hashed items omfg)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so in your proposed-to-be-tested scheme, there are two separate eight-deep trees? may i ask, why do blocks need their own tree - after all, it's just an int. do you expect block number to overflow an unsigned 32 bit int? because you *really* don'
t need 8-deep structure for dispersing 2**32 nodes (again:
http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/fsgraph1.png /
http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/fsgraph2.png )
mircea_popescu: phf well he's considering what he's considering, seeing how he's doing the measuring. i was kinda biasing towards ext2 in the previous discussions (which i guess nobody reads or something ?) , but hey, can'
t impede man's independent manhood!
mircea_popescu: Framedragger in any case i don'
t expect to optimize BEFORE DESIGNING holy shit. talk about early optimizations. this is the measuring stage. you optimize nothing.
mircea_popescu: (and if this is untenable, THEN THE DESIGN GETS MODIFIED!!! no fucking "solutions" of shoving shit under carpet and letting mp discover it in 2017 whiole spending however many years eating food we didn'
t pay for and pretensions to "engineering" and "intellectual lifge" we don'
t deserve.)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the point is that we don'
t want to make any more provedly breaking systems.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 01:11 mircea_popescu: i can'
t bring myself to move my piss away from dks, or anyone in his generation's face.
mircea_popescu: yeah i don'
t have a problem with you. still monumentally pissed off.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for completeness, i should state that it may be "workable" (in the sense of slightly less horrible) to just keep a flat dir tree structure, one or two levels deep - if you don'
t ask fs to list files in dir and just want to access filenames you already know, it's ~okay-ish. but i think i agree that the whole fs idea needs to be dumped, in general
mircea_popescu: why phrase it as this rather than plainly "i will" ? to place disincentive on others doing it ? (hey, if i do it he won'
t) rather than incentive (he's doing it, let me do it too) ?
mircea_popescu: alternatively, they a) didn'
t know (either item) ; b) didn'
t care ; c) didn'
t know they don'
t know ; d) didn'
t care they don'
t know and so folllowing.
mircea_popescu: even now, you understand this alfie, EVEN NOW there's girls spreading for random dorks somewhere notwithstanding you're looking for a girl just like them. and they won'
t as much as whatsapp a notification to you!