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assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:43:46;
mircea_popescu: in any case we should prolly have a strategy discussion here. paging mod6 asciilifeform jurov trinque phf an' the other interested parties.
BingoBoingo:
mircea_popescu: My position is and continues to be that Trump is merely and agent of Clinton
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 02:28:33;
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432848 << for the record, this is a lot weaker than it seems, for reasons discussed but perhaps worth repeating : it is so trivial to transform all txn into a high/low-S of one's choosing, that there exists no actual barrier due to it.
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 01:45:38;
mircea_popescu: (perhaps this is obivous to me only for some god-forsaken reason, but the next step after the view on the bitcoin protocol that it permits miners to arbitrarily reject txn and the collusion of miners is - you gotta get a license to bitcoinate. why hardfork to increase their revenue, even.)
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 01:34:13;
mircea_popescu: which is how and why chetty's passing bumped her trust in my eyes to 10 : not because she's "very good" now, but because she lacks any further capacity to surprise anyone. at least so goes the logic.
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 01:03:18;
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432744 << this is a complicated proposition. the traditional avenue of the dedicated tramp is to join a group, liberally fuck anyone but the alpha of that group, insist that the alpha marry her. this presses a very strict choice on the alpha that's not trivially resolved - if he kills her everyone else loses a fuckdoll ; if he marries her he's fucked, n
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 13:22:14;
mircea_popescu: you ARE willing to pay 50% of the money for a 72% item, and so there it is.
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 13:22:03;
mircea_popescu: in the "i bet you don't understand what the bayesian approach to spam filtering turned into pretend-ai after its failure to filter spam" means for your country : the next step is for most all the jobs that are still left to be replaced by this kind of ai - it's cheaper. so you go to the hair salon and you get a hairdo - 80% of the time. hey, accidents happen, here's a free coupon for another one. and
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 03:21:23;
mircea_popescu: hanbot the problem with your take on what's reasonable is that the other reasonable view is to simply say that everything's fine, nothing's wrong and there isn't nor could ever be any cause for expenditure, alarm or ultimately death. in principle this is a view that can not be dislodged, every living thing's expectation to live forever in a functional world is, misguided or not, nevertheless part and
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 02:35:50;
mircea_popescu: ironcally, bitbet is not merely "a sure thing" - it's the only actually profitable, legit bitcoin business to date. THE ONLY.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 17:39:26; asciilifeform: i must agree with phf. and i think this is how nubbins` ended up killfiled by
mircea_popescu, for the 'i speak for trees, for the trees have no tongues' thing.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:40:41; PeterL:
mircea_popescu what about the part of the listing that says shares will be paid out a minimum of 0.00001 ? If selling the domain+code does not cover the 17btc shortfall and this minimum, are you and kakobrekla expected to pay this out of pocket?
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 01:55:04;
mircea_popescu: knowledge that you can drop 1, 10 or 1000 bitcoin on an arbitrary proposition and be covered fairly, people did not wish to do so!
ben_vulpes: you don't *have* to do /anything/,
mircea_popescu!
adlai finds that he has nothing further constructive to add to the bitbet receivership saga; wishes
mircea_popescu and kakobrekla best of luck resolving it in shareholders' best interests.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 13:49:06;
mircea_popescu: "noisehole, bullshitter, blowhard, drunkard, sadist, rapist, all-around disgrace to the sad sad State of Bitcoin (and a passive-aggressive plagiarist, too, to top a cherry on the shit-pan-kake!)" da fuck did you do adlai !
phf:
mircea_popescu: 50% non-transferable shares split between owners, about 301btc in profit?
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 21:47:54; asciilifeform: phf: from rereading the logz, seems like
mircea_popescu admits this, even.
phf:
mircea_popescu: jurov pointed out the error of my ways, but i believe that i might've accomplished what i was fumbling for already
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 21:23:52; asciilifeform: i suspect that
mircea_popescu would rather burn it than let it go to hitler.
BingoBoingo:
mircea_popescu: Seriously. I have suspicions on how this could be done, but... given the necessary ugliness in this sort of brokering solrodar's bid seems awfully cheap.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 21:02:38; asciilifeform: jurov: i suspect that if you were to suggest to
mircea_popescu that a group of lordz could, or ought to, make a collective decision, he would break out in hives and barf
solrodar:
mircea_popescu would continue to hold them in trust, and agree to pay them out in accordance with my ajudication, unless that ajudication was rejected by (say) 10 people currently in assbot's L1
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:20:43;
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432065 << if you wish to help the receiver along through donating all/part of the work in a publicly verifiable manner, that is your privilege and i am sure will be appreciated by the beneficiaries who they may be.
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 17:17:04;
mircea_popescu: i'm a masochist like that.
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 17:15:50;
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yes, by the time the 4th txn trying to pay out bitbet vanished without a trace, i was sort-of expecting it.
BingoBoingo: I thought a
mircea_popescu had gurlz to do that.
jurov: for me that question boils down to judge deciding if
mircea_popescu acted in good faith or not acc. to agreement.. which is likely not a good thing
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 18:21:42;
mircea_popescu: the latter part come at an end at some point last year, when he asked to have it included in the cost structure. i pointed out to him then that if i correspondingly add my expenses in, we might as well close it.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 19:34:02;
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> << just how deeply in the red ~was~ bbet, if we consider this ..? << i dunno man, how much for a night with my slave of your choice ? for me she'll do it for free, you she will not even consider. and this speaks to phf's and other's q as to why assets weren't on the books since they can be trivially enumerated : yes they can be ; but they can't be VALUED. what's the accounting value of
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 18:23:03;
mircea_popescu: solrodar mno. you may not realise this, but bitbet has to date clocked close to 2k hours of admin time. and this is pointedly not minimum wage sort of work.
jurov:
mircea_popescu: it does show seats, but in some HTML5 presentation
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 03:45:55;
mircea_popescu: there's a graph, it doesn't touch 1bn.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform>
mircea_popescu described the high-S thing as noncontroversial << wasn't that the other one ?
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 18:23:03;
mircea_popescu: solrodar mno. you may not realise this, but bitbet has to date clocked close to 2k hours of admin time. and this is pointedly not minimum wage sort of work.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 18:40:42;
mircea_popescu: why is that, if the question's not too presumptuous ?
phf:
mircea_popescu: not from what you just said about you and kako paying out of the pocket
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you not say the words "
mircea_popescu having a notion that he knows how to avoid connecting through them to the minerz" ?
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 18:39:24;
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and possibly he is now cured of it. <<< amusingly - quite on the contrary! ~you~ had that notion, and appeared to stick to it even in the face of my pointing out that this arrangement is not stable, and only the miners could possibily be running the show.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 12:19:57;
mircea_popescu: ahaha ok pretty good.
phf: so a clarification to what i said above, it's kakobrekla and
mircea_popescu together paying for all aspects of bitbet operation out of pocket
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 17:16:26;
mircea_popescu: much as in the case of a recent game of go - what exactly would it being clear or unclear to you do ?
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:36:05;
mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of people who, however poor may they be irl, are still not driven by the poverty so to speak.
solrodar:
mircea_popescu: as I understand the listing agreement, both you and kakobrekla need to agree before either of you can sell your joint 50%
phf:
mircea_popescu: hey some people clearly want to see blood. i think judgement should exclusively affect only people's wot ratings and is necessary for when the issue is complicated and needs an investigation. sort of like a write up that supreme court judges do. nobody even needs to agree with it
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 16:13:22;
mircea_popescu: by all means. hence, " and if there's a single icann in the lot with enough actual gumption to put together a hostile takeover package, i'll certainly consider it."
solrodar: I think the real problem here is not the solvency or otherwise of bitbet, but the fact that
mircea_popescu and kakobrekla have had a breakdown in trust and no longer want to work with each other