asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doesn't it ever strike you as odd that the machine needs ~2~ journals, 1 on top of other ?

asciilifeform: iirc got 'journal' thing aha

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: ( laugh all you like, this was actual problem in phuctor initially )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what happens if you were to copy the msql db mid-write ?

asciilifeform: long ago, asciilifeform used to have a plain txt www . only moved to wp because wanted search box, comments, etc, and couldn't be arsed to bake a blogotron by hand

asciilifeform: ( phuctor keeps errything, even raw keyz, in db, nowadays )

asciilifeform: if you simply ~must~ db, stuff it all in db already

asciilifeform: imho the wp mix-and-match, where some stuff lives in db, other on disk -- is worst of both worlds

asciilifeform: db only really wins when yer doing a) complex queries b) over million+ items , or a+b , really

asciilifeform: and the jpg live on fs as it is.

asciilifeform: ( even phuctor did! back when it weighed a GB or 2 )

asciilifeform: even a super-heaviweight bag of txt/jpg like mircea_popescu's, would damn near certainly work a++ as a filesystem thing

asciilifeform: simply tar up the dir & go.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: sorta why asciilifeform wish list includes plain-files-on-disk blogotron -- then trivial to back up

asciilifeform: shortest outage ever..

asciilifeform: hrm, seems to work nao..

asciilifeform: ( anybody able to load my www ? )

asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform's ancient venerable hoster seems to be outaged ( iirc 2nd time since 2015 .. )

asciilifeform: 'oh hi mr d , i've been saving this naval 300kV xray machine for you, surely you want'

asciilifeform: was great shop -- no price stickers, proprietor made up prices as he went along, and usually were in 'lunch money' range, even for e.g. pallet of sgi 'origin' etc

asciilifeform: ( since sadly closed, i suspect he died, d00d was uncommonly fat even for ameristan )

asciilifeform: Mocky: i used to shop at a dealer like that

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had to ride horse and burn vienna to get 286, but here idjits simply threw out 486 etc

asciilifeform: yes hung in dumpsters

asciilifeform: Mocky: when asciilifeform & co moved to usa, father worked as a 'building super' in industrial shithole, lotsa goodies thrown for the pickin'

asciilifeform: but yes, new ones you oughta be able to pull with 2 fingers

asciilifeform: mine i fished from a dumpster when i was a kid

asciilifeform: ( part of any respectable toolbox, imho )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i used a chip puller when i was prototyping here, worked a++

asciilifeform: with any disk ,lol

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it might take a little work for other folx, but realize that you can back up your rk just by picking up the disk, lol, with hands, and sticking in yer lappy and dd if=/dev/sdb | gzip > backup

asciilifeform actually ran 2 printers into the ground since started ffa

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i ended up killing coupla trees, with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-15#1872555 , to do it, conceivably they didnt have to die.. ☝︎

asciilifeform: very easy to say when you aint an archaeologist eating 100GB of old maffs.

asciilifeform: ( wanted to get human monkeys out of the typesetting loop, unacceptable bit rot even with professional typists )

asciilifeform: it's kinda why knuth wrote tex

asciilifeform: ( where not only gnarly notations but where even 1 character bitflip is unacceptably many )

asciilifeform: Mocky: the sad bit is that ocr never has and prolly never will work worth half a shit on maffs

asciilifeform: if anybody knows of such a thing that actually seems to work, plox to write in.

asciilifeform: ( i.e. not maffs, not scans )

asciilifeform: i suspect it only worx on pdf with pre-existing ocr track

asciilifeform: ( not even 7bit-clean line noise )

asciilifeform: gives me line noise for pretty much anyffing i put in

asciilifeform goes to try

asciilifeform: ( i've seen various heathen crapola that takes pdf and makes www, but all seems to use ocean of js and scarcely improvement over orig gnarl imho )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what did it look like when alive ? was it essentially a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html thing ?

asciilifeform: 'The Sponsored Listings displayed above are served automatically by a third party. Neither Parkingcrew nor the domain owner maintain any relationship with the advertisers.'

asciilifeform: dead

asciilifeform: ( if not find, i won't cry, either )

asciilifeform: ty

asciilifeform: diggin in the l0gz since mircea_popescu brought it up 5min ago, but not found yet

asciilifeform: contemplated strictly as archaeologist's spade, rather than some continued 'legit' existence for the sadformat.

asciilifeform: and they all orig were born as typewritten page in pdf thing

asciilifeform: ( no algo in ffa is newer than 1988 or so )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kinda what ffa is

asciilifeform: the thread provoked by reading dulap l0gz this morning, and asciilifeform noticed a mysterious upsurge of heathen interest in ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491985 turd collection. by all rights they oughta be seeing it as jpeg encrusted with tmsr ad banners etc ☝︎

asciilifeform: supposing anybody can ever be arsed.

asciilifeform: sanity -- defo not; but conceivably could be frozen in amber the way nintendo games were.

asciilifeform: ( if anybody's curious how -- printer ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: i wish i could concur, but while baking ffa i had to eat a good 100GB of pdf.

asciilifeform: it definitely, let's say, not top of list of open problem

asciilifeform: iirc lobbes attempted one, but got stuck on sumthing

asciilifeform: imho a thing that'd swallow a pdf/ps/etc and shit out html with sequenced jpeg, would be entirely useful item.

asciilifeform: ( not to mention, various heathen dirt in e.g. qntra, typically i put it through ocr but result aint always edible )

asciilifeform: at times i wanna link to orig pubs of various algos, e.g. barrett, and frustrating

asciilifeform: it very rarely comes up , aha

asciilifeform: sumthing like a rk, booted to ram disk, would make a perfectly fine toilet for such a thing imho

asciilifeform: damn

asciilifeform: i distinctly recall that several people ( incl. gabriel_laddel ) threatened to bake this, but did anyone bake ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, did anyone ever actually bake a pdf2www viewer gizmo ? ( i wanted to link to e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-16#1715210 and other oldstuff, at various points, but am loathe to link direct turd, really oughta be a thing which eats link to pdf and shits a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html - style item ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: no one ever said last words 'i wish i hadn't made backup' heh

asciilifeform: backups, folx!!

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: loox like http://bingology.net sidebar is vanished ?

asciilifeform: wb Mocky

asciilifeform: eh portuguese is 'language' like ukr is

asciilifeform: ( admittedly they were 100% solid miamiseeker )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i can't resist to ask, what've you got against the brazil folx anyway . i worked with a bunch for yrs, jolly good chaps

asciilifeform: mod6 srsly ^

asciilifeform: turns out pantsuit fatwa not 100% a++ guide to where are the sane orcs

asciilifeform: they did 'list' qatar, neh

asciilifeform: there are things on back burner that ~specifically~ call for 'jungle endpoint'.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not all doings require a+++ bandwidth

asciilifeform pictures a fyootoor emperor qin shihuandi , with stable of alchemists paid in coin, hunting for elixir

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: i recall the post, i think, mircea_popescu used to be a kind of surgeon , resurrected dying corps

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a fighting-shape mod6 is easily worth 2 or 3 asciilifeform's . i dun suppose you have a qatar to evacuate him to ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-15#1872392 << mod6 you absolutely must escape. what wouldja need in order to escape ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: right

asciilifeform: what i dun presently know is whether the new fuhrer is presiding over a ~nepal , or sumthing where could actually build iron.

asciilifeform: this i recall

asciilifeform: i recall mircea_popescu got wind at one point that burma is industrializing. but i have nfi re detail, it is 'dark matter'.

asciilifeform: simply best-known example. pantsuit is colonial master in good chunk of that subcontinent, but not afaik vietnam.

asciilifeform: *viktor bout

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely likely. but afaik best-looking horse in that glue factory. observe that e.g. vikrot bout was betrayed by usg.thailand, not vietnam.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i admit to a curiosity re vietnam. ( not only famously succeeded in crushing the anglo-roaches , but persistent rumours that at least part of the reason why invaded was to prevent a native and 'red' semiconductor castle from appearing , was showing symptoms )

asciilifeform: mod6: have you considered to get a diff heathen gig ? the kind where you dun have to go anywhere ? in '16 asciilifeform pulled this off, yes it took having to run on batteries for a spell, but was 100% worth it, it's the only reason i had strength to actually do FG, ffa, etc

asciilifeform after the serpent thing has turned to a moar 'measure 7 times, cut 1' direction

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-15#1872348 << i woke up and 'i owe mircea_popescu a proper elaboration' but noticed it is ending up lengthy, and the risk of typo and turning sense into nonsense is high; so prolly oughta be a blog post, i'ma write it after ch12 , supposing nobody's in a dire hurry ☝︎