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mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, you know i coincidentally had just
that
tab open ?
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Petrobras just ended
their dispute with
the local
trabajadores by dumping
the piped gas network on
the government
BingoBoingo: I'm rather surprised
the primus
thing isn't a more common artifact down here.
They are around, but I guess most of
the kerosene goes
to
the airport.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 13:48 asciilifeform: on
top of
this, add
the fact
that sovok was really 4 separate items, as diff. as e.g. roman 'kings' period vs republic vs empire : 1) lenin epoch 2) stalin 3) hrusch 4) 'stagnation' and wrap-up.
BingoBoingo: LOL, ended up with worse
than my isobutane
BingoBoingo: depends on
the circumstances of
the lighting
a111: Logged on 2018-09-02 16:51 asciilifeform: it isn't any moar outrageous
than
the butane-filled refrigerator BingoBoingo found himself with
BingoBoingo: "Que las relaciones entre el gobierno de ocupación de las Islas Malvinas y Uruguay son fluidas y con un importante intercambio comercial en materia pesquera es conocido por
todos. Incluso empresarios y funcionarios británicos se han referido a los uruguayos como sus socios estratégicos. Pero hasta ahora, nunca un funcionario del gobierno uruguayo se había referido a las islas como
territorio inglés."
BingoBoingo: I
think I've found peak self important Argentine derpery:
https://archive.is/wRbNu 1. Expecting Uruguay
to act agaisnt a fishing vessel Argentina doesn't like because Argentina's charges against
the boat are "public knowledge"
though entirely domestic
to Argentina. 2. Sticking
to
the Malvinas and
trying
to insist Uruguay derp with
them over some British sheep islands not named New Zealand.
bvt: hello. I will
try
to finish
the ffa work from
the workplan over next
two days. i had some meatspace interference
that stole a few work hours.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-17 16:06 asciilifeform: in principle 'anything possible' ; recall german gun 'bertha', 'dora', etc. series. 3000 men, 400 camp whores, however many
technicians, 4 railroad
tracks, battalion of railroad engineers
to lay
track in front of it so can move... but in what sense is 'field' artillery.
mp_en_viaje: iirc big bertha were just
tracked mortars, not even
that big, <10ton
a111: Logged on 2019-07-17 16:06 asciilifeform: in principle 'anything possible' ; recall german gun 'bertha', 'dora', etc. series. 3000 men, 400 camp whores, however many
technicians, 4 railroad
tracks, battalion of railroad engineers
to lay
track in front of it so can move... but in what sense is 'field' artillery.
mp_en_viaje: shoe-sized
table works for well understood processes, and even
there kinda...
a111: Logged on 2019-07-17 16:03 asciilifeform: separate q is whether such a
thing can be considered 'human-readable'
tho.
diana_coman imagines asciilifeform-ghost coming back purely
to read
the adnotated loper-os.org
a111: Logged on 2019-07-17 14:56 mod6: I created one for ave1s musltronic
tools (which won't fit
the bill yet, because of circular dep. of GNAT), one for diana_coman's Vtools (which may not fit
the bill 100% either, yet), and one for
TRB.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-17 14:30 mp_en_viaje: i'm waiting for you
to die, in any case.
then will loper-os.org. adnotated.
mp_en_viaje: we will not be designing buildings by
the hammers available.
mp_en_viaje: so we know we need
to fix browser / see which work etc
mp_en_viaje: in any case anything is better
than nothing.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 21:52 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i described
this in
the orig ifdefism
thread.
the solution is
to stop pretending
that coad worx on boxen where no one in living memory had ever
tested it and signed.
mp_en_viaje: and, as imo republican experience has well shown any and all, way
the fuck better a firm answer, even if
turns out mistaken and has
to be chanced,
than no answer.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, myeah. but
the "nao which" must be answered.
mod6: was
thinking
that perhaps you were headed in
that direction.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman,
the "include source in vpatch" is not merely re dependency, it's also "how do i meaningfully patch against absent code ?" and even "how
the fuck am i supposed
to display
this ??"
mp_en_viaje: we need
to stress
the vtree
toolchain into sufficiency anyway.
mod6: Yes, it ~should~ depend on
the musltronic_tools ebuild, it does need more
testing
though
to ensure I have
the proper useage of RDEPEND. Yeah, I did see
the earlier discussion of including
the source; I agree with
that,
diana_coman: but
this reduces
to "have republican repo2
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: his is just
the ebuild aka no sources;
the ebuild downloads
the source from my site so in
this sense yes, it'll always be
there
mp_en_viaje: mod6, didn't run into diana_coman 's cuntoo genesis problem
then ?
diana_coman: at any rate,
the current discussion is re including
the source in
the vpatch and being done with it since otherwise
the ebuild by itself is no guarantee
that "it'll always be
there"
diana_coman: ah, yours is a proper ebuild mod6 but shouldn't it notify of dependency on gnat i.e. it should basically install
that one
too first?
a111: Logged on 2019-07-17 14:16 mp_en_viaje: however, if you sit down
to play gothic, or kb or any fucking one
thing it'll be
time spent playing, full screen, immersed
diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-17#1923053 - funnily enough not even *just*
the playing; kid pleaded and asked so in
the end got him
through ~20 lines of Ada doing a little "guess
the number"
text-game and he's more hooked
to mess around with it
than with heroes because obv "can look inside"
☝︎ diana_coman: mod6: mine so far would be "curl" alone so perfectly fine alongside yours since you say you are doing much heavier lifting
there
mod6: (Also, should mention, I did see
that diana_coman is working on her own ebuild, which is awesome, will most def. supersede what I was
tinkering with last month.)
mod6: The idea being, once we're moved over
to cuntoo, using keccak vtools & a keccak
trb vtree,
then
the Foundation can go back
to discussion of various patches
that have been waiting in
the lobby for some
time.
mod6: But overall
the focus has been
to put forth directed effort into getting us over
to cuntoo so we can stop using all of
the buildroot
things, and supporting debian, et. al.
mod6: I created one for ave1s musltronic
tools (which won't fit
the bill yet, because of circular dep. of GNAT), one for diana_coman's Vtools (which may not fit
the bill 100% either, yet), and one for
TRB.
☟︎ mod6: Recently, on workbench, I've been
trying
to build up
TRB on cuntoo; and most recently (last month) dipping my
toe into creating ebuilds.
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Yeah, have good intent, wanting
to be helpful. However, I need
to
think
through some of
these
things a bit better. Exercise more restraint and caution on such
things.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-17 13:53 asciilifeform: mod6 when you wake up -- wtf was
this ?
mp_en_viaje: what's on your workbench
these days anyways ?
mp_en_viaje: maybe just make it a patch ? or whatever, i get
that you mean well, but sometimes you manage
to always get your fingers caught under
this sort of furniture.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-17 13:52 mp_en_viaje: get
the fucking shit aligned or stop
talking about it altogether. it's either abandoned, in which case, it is not mentioned ; or it is not abandoned, in which case it is fixed.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-17 12:31 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-17#1922941 << afaik all
the airlines still are using
the ~physically same~ ibm mainframes as in 1990. ( simply, in 'civilized' world,
the agents run 'terminal' proggy under microshit. whereas in orclands, ye olde ibm glass
terminals. i saw one in e.g. argentina, in coupla places )
mp_en_viaje: i'm waiting for you
to die, in any case.
then will loper-os.org. adnotated.
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: then again i suppose
that's what college even fucking is in
the first place.
mp_en_viaje: it's like being back in school, and
teacher saying stupid dumb shit and you sitting down
to figure it out and annoyingly discover it's merely counterintuitive, but absolutely not dumb shit.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, it still blows my mind how i keep coming
to agree with
this man notwithstanding i never seem
to like him very much
mp_en_viaje: because
the sort of idiot involved is born with a spongiform brain of microshit.
mp_en_viaje: but back
to
the issue : i suspect all
things any one actually wants will be easier and readylier had by
taking an older version and cutting it down
to sit on
tmsr computing environment
than by
trying
to run it on
the campbell-soupcan flavour of windows, be it "foss"/"gnu"/"linux"/adobe/oracle/apple/whatever,
they;re all windowses
mp_en_viaje: i
think it must be just me, because i see
the hordes of
touchers everywhere.
mp_en_viaje: i personally enjoy much more buying a pair of shoes / acquiring a new whore / eating a meal
than
touching five
thousand slimy, ugly and unpleasant "shoes" "whores" "meals"
that fucking aren't.
mp_en_viaje: and if you sit down
to play post-apocalypse crapola it'll be
time spent shifting
through
the zombie bin, omg
this sucks omg wtf is
this shit etc