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mircea_popescu: i
told him
to
touch nothing and speak not a word lest i behead him ; girls wanted
to know who's
that and i said pay no mind whatsoever, i got a new dog.
mircea_popescu: the notion
that "he's no worse" is certainly
the largest part of
the problem. how
the utter fuck is he no worse ? he's
the absolute worst.
phf: instead he hated
them, precisely because he
thought
that he's no worse. it's all
through his narrative "girls dig cruel people" and all
that stuff.
the idea of, say, learning
to become cruel (accepting his modality) somehow didn't really enter his mind
phf: asciilifeform: right, but if he recognized
them as his betters, he could learn from
them is my point, by
talking
to
them, by "serving"
them, etc.
phf: he couldn't
talk
to girls, ok, but he could
talk
to
those same guys
that he hated.
phf: well, guy was pathological, but perhaps
the idea is
that people with lesser manifestations of similar issues should considering serving
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, for another in his position but not with his condition,
the solutions would have been plurious, from
the prostration onwards.
mircea_popescu: not so. i don't believe he biologically had a complete set of mechanisms.
there was nothign for him.
mircea_popescu: that he got off
the pig doesn't invalidate
the fucking.
mircea_popescu: he's born a slave, like it or not. either fuck or get off
the pig.
mircea_popescu: "you have diabethes.
the cure is
to stop eating sweets." "i'm not stopping eating sweets." "then you will die." "i prefer
to die." "fine, but just for
the record - stopping with
the sweets STILL is
the cure for diabethes."
phf: i can put new urls into
the build scripts and see if it still works (unlikely but who knows, if dev
team hasn't
touched build process might still be operational)
phf: mircea_popescu: oof,
there aren't any. i've not updated
the build scripts for
the new version and it's not a "some pointers" kind of process
mircea_popescu: phf you available
to give peter l some pointers re osx build process in #eulora ?
shinohai: bit of a voluptuous girl
there mircea_popescu !
phf: that's what i had in my old bot implementation
too
phf: so essentially one ping goes out at 3, and
then
there's another 30
to get it back
shinohai: there was an mp4 of
that somewhere but i dnt remember
mircea_popescu: hm, anyone has a link handy
to
that epic steph kegels library public masturbation
thing ?
phf: trinque: hey what's
the current frequency
that you send pings and
timeout, 30 60?
a111: Logged on 2014-10-30 23:55 mircea_popescu: undata: if only
there were some way
to organize
the efforts of a large number of people around projects <<<
there is. you're watching it. just because leadership is not in your face doesn't necessarily mean leadership is absent and it's your
time
to shine. it may also mean leadership is extremely good at what it does.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 01:15 mircea_popescu: back in
the days
trinque was called undata i made
the point
to him
that merely because management is not apparent is a sign
that management is extremely competent ; not an invitation
to
try and scare up some "management stone soup".
mircea_popescu: phf in practice, once
tmsr-rsa is here, i'd expect
to do exactly
the "sling packets"
thing
a111: Logged on 2015-08-21 01:13
trinque: must've been some serious run-away dick selection in human history
trinque: oh oh! I found
the other
thing.
trinque: I remember
the conversation clearly, aside from *any* of
the phrasing whatsoever :p
trinque: relatedly,
the mental compressor doth not always yield fruitful search
terms.
trinque: heh, reading one's own old logs is a
trip.
mircea_popescu: apparently
this is a very easy mistake
to make ; understandably
too, anglosphere management is da pits.
mircea_popescu: back in
the days
trinque was called undata i made
the point
to him
that merely because management is not apparent is a sign
that management is extremely competent ; not an invitation
to
try and scare up some "management stone soup".
☟︎ phf: i got bogged down in config files and other such minutia, but
that's because i wrote it in c and i'm not yet at a level where i can produce elegant c solutions. i also used knuth's web, and since
there aren't systems
that support web/c syntax highlighting and indent
the whole process was very much "grinding your own
telescope lens by hand"
phf:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4880#page-13 (section 4.) over
tcp. i have an incremental packet parser
that you can attach
to
tcp stream and it'll give you packet-by-packet on
the other end.
that's probably not
the right solution for going
to war
though
phf: adlai: i
think gossip spec is fine, just nobody
took it
to release. asciilifeform has significant changes
to
the spec, but if you ignore
those you can still build a working implementation. in fact, unless you're ascii, i
think it's better
to ignore further discussion and just stick
to what mp wrote. i also
think it's one of
those ideas you don't want nailed down at protocol level. mine for example slings gpg packets
☟︎ mod6: Tell your brother I said
this
thing was cool.
shinohai: no
the new build script is gonna be next step in v evolution
to me
mod6: Didn't mean
to
take over
the chamber, sorry. lol.
mod6: Work will continue on
the makefile(s). Exciting stuff.
mod6: hopefully by
the end of
the month we'll have fourteen new deedbot deps for buildroot placed, a new V99994 build script, and an offline build script.
mod6: anyway, will be looking forward
to feeding deedbot
the next 14 buildroot deps here shortly.
the vetting process is on going but, so far, so good.
mod6: i heard
they concluded some peace
there just yesterday?
mod6: I'm currently working on
the makefile(s)
that will replace
the build scripts etc. but
there's some elbow grease
to put in
there.
mod6: yeah, done a
ton of
testing for me
this month.
mod6: so
that's pretty nifty.
mod6: this morning shinohai successfully
tested
the offline build script
that i create (a slight varient from
the original one).
adlai waves goodnight
to mircea_popescu
adlai: ok
time for one last bit of irony
mircea_popescu: i
think it is past your bedtime, yes. come back fresh
tomorrow.
☟︎ mod6: ya,
that was pretty awesome.
mod6: not only do people use it
throught
the build script directly, etc.. but
trinque published his irc bot code with it. and
that kinda blew my hair back. so
thanks
trinque!
mod6: <+trinque> adlai: I use it. << actually,
this really was cool.
trinque: also v.pl is
to be valued by number of shithub stars
mircea_popescu: motherfucker "corrected himself" in
the sense of admitting his original idiocy has no possible subject ; and
then gleefully proceeds
to act as if he said something.
adlai is not calling users of mod6-V "nobody", but just suggesting
that "most" users, write
their own
adlai: then maybe
the RFC should be for a protocol, rather
than an implementation? or at least, a reference implementation
that ~nobody uses, like V
adlai: oh sorry, "there is no we,
there is only V". so when do U ...?
adlai: so when do we officially acknowledge
that
the first attempt at addressing
the gossipd RFC was a failure, and solicit a second?
trinque: and in
that case
they hold only as much credence as your
trust of peered nodes
adlai: mod6: reminds me of some article
that
tl;dred
to "i should have procrastinated my phd for as long as possible, finishing it was a mistake"
trinque sees how wot ratings propagating over gossipd make more sense
than anything
taped
together on
this gossipd-less side of
things