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mircea_popescu: decade or two later you can even try returning.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:161/to:161#161 << try moving to a cold, desolate place. almost always fixes this.
asciilifeform: (and that it is a 'solution in search of problem')
asciilifeform: it turned out that no one has the 100kg of lsd necessary to properly digest the idea.
asciilifeform: PeterL: we had a 'what if gossipd also had a multidimensional hawala thing' thread
thestringpuller: PeterL: what do you mean?!?!? Cash doesn't magicall transport itself.
mircea_popescu: you can already do this in, eg, eulora.
mircea_popescu: oh, you thin kthat's just there because grues hate you / were bored one day ?
PeterL: well, like bitcoin but without the blockchain bloat
thestringpuller: PeterL: then how are you going to reconcile cash?
asciilifeform: PeterL: we had a thread...
PeterL: use bitcoin to reconcile?
thestringpuller: PeterL: I've already tried in practice. The failpoint is reconciliation.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Imma have to think on that submission
PeterL: so I was thinking about hawala/wotcoin, would it be reasonable to make some sort of client that eats RSA messages in a sort of [date amount unit RSAkeyIssuer FromRSAkey ToRSAKey] set protocol? each Issuer would have a DB with balances they see, and using WoT could connect multiple issuers?
thestringpuller: best way to move cash is to put it in lock box, and ship it with a tracking number to wherever you're gonna show up
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:150/to:150#150 << if you go to all the trouble of building multiple freestanding items, why then vulnerabilize them so. the idea is to take the bikeshed out, not import it forever. ☟︎
thestringpuller: PeterL: well airports and trainstations are cash chokepoints right now
mircea_popescu: PeterL sure ; though i think the bureaucrats are flattering themselves. let them try to "eliminate cash" i say.
mircea_popescu: and in other repeated twice news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lox3somQ5C1ql4hl8o1_500.gif
PeterL: http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/06/cash-means-freedom-which-is-why-so-new -- Not really news, just a good summary of the current situation
mircea_popescu: ok this is pretty lulzy
Framedragger: (ah no, the kathmandu one is repeated twice)
Framedragger: (i meant, one shared factor between three places)
Framedragger: three shared factors between nepal and turkey
asciilifeform: the shared factor, 78.188.162.184 << Turkey, Osmaniye, Osmaniye.
mircea_popescu: "oh but they have all these shesidents in yurp!!!11" "you're not yurp."
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:145/to:145#145 <<< which reminds me, all the white knight butthurt at the slow, crushing discovery that an allegedly-black-certainly-male candidate is significantly more acceptable to the geenral public than an allegedly-female-certainly-white one.
asciilifeform: since when did they even have a net pipe.
Framedragger: my english is not sophisticated enough to mediate a genuine point of curiosity *without* any implied frustration whatsoever
Framedragger: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/221218755BB59C166BD88435267638C04F757D5630064CA207D228B4A7520F57 << phuctored through a known factor with e being prime - pretty neat
BingoBoingo: You could try Atarax
jurov: oh that stopped working. then desloratadine too
jurov: shinohai.. well it's me who is borkt. if you remember me year ago complaining of allergy...this time it's even worse
diana_coman: thestringpuller, the swamp is deep
shinohai: oh hai jurov, thx for your help I thought I borked something up again xD
jurov: lol thestringpuller
thestringpuller: the only thing left was the CS gfx stuff which is harder to gut
thestringpuller: diana_coman: welcome shinohai to the mess of planeshift legacy code << I thought Chetty had gutted 90% of it.
Framedragger: how was burning man, then?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 11:25 Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and i'll implement these things even if phf's bot becomes more reliable or w/e, because, decentralization!1
Framedragger: fwiw i stand by http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531731 - just have multiple things - and maybe in the future some system for autosyncing logs between places?.. ☝︎
Framedragger: i'm sure you're right, no bot would have survived. wonder if you could use sth like fastnetmon (if it can eat your logs or if you can format them accordingly?) to analyse the DoS / sql attack further..
pete_dushenski returns to watching doped up and remarkably virile looking chinamen beat up on scrawny, malnourished, and probably 'cleaner' nodicks in 2012 olympics men's doubles badminton finals. gotta love the drive of the children of parents who knew famine.
pete_dushenski: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr940527.htm << oldie but goodie on hillary's deep knowledge of the cattle biz, particularly their, ahem, future. couldn't find it in the logs otherwise, worth correcting.
pete_dushenski: sorry, 10th ~guru~, Guru Gobind Singh, started the sikh naming convention in 17th century
mircea_popescu: anyway. there's a reason india amounted to ~nothing throughout its lengthy history.
mircea_popescu: iirc the sikh thing is a few centuries old.
ben_vulpes: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3404695/Demolition-Jungle-finally-begins-Bulldozers-tear-Calais-notorious-tent-city-despite-protests-migrants.html << the bulldozing nominally began in january
pete_dushenski: the revolutions just keep revolving don't they.
pete_dushenski recently just learned of sikh practices around 'equality', specifically with regards to naming (all girls are surnamed 'kaur', all boys 'singh' until married). no moar caste sistam u guise!
pete_dushenski: just like in times of giza snow pyramids!
mircea_popescu: oh wait, wait, because if they say there's no social hierarchy there... won't be any. right, i forgot.
mircea_popescu: heh. i have nfi how they imagined "decolonialism" will work out as anything other than "bitch, you're the african now".
pete_dushenski: 'their' government being the part that was cancelled. they created frankenstein, now he lives independently from the good doctor.
mircea_popescu: think of it as town-sized eminent domain, if you will. govt improving the land occupation.
mircea_popescu: for the very simple reason - the migrants need the government more ; and ask it for less. no brainer.
mircea_popescu: well what, this only applies to other people ? turns out according to government, migrants have more right to calais than whoever kulaks are complaining.
mircea_popescu: "no favoritism" they wanted ; and "equality" they wanted, and "down with corruption and old boys networks", they wanted.
mircea_popescu: how is their government cancelled ? it's working exactly as they intended it to work.
pete_dushenski: and any 'social contracts' flowing therefrom, or perceived to be flowing therefrom
pete_dushenski: obv, no one told them that their gov was indeed cancelled
pete_dushenski: to the extent that they're 'playing by the rules of the prison', it's sop at this point
mircea_popescu: don't fucking make deals with the government.
mircea_popescu: "oh, because group A failed to repress groub B because they thought they had a deal with the government".
mircea_popescu: "the government" should intervene to make sure that calais looks like what group A would, rather than what group B would ? da fuck is this ?
mircea_popescu: somehow they bought into the whole sacred life thing.
mircea_popescu: they're however not savvy enough to realise that the fact that nobody wants them means exactly this - that nobody wants them.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: they're savvy enough to know how alt-left media will frame them. "oh you don't want to date shaniqua because you don't like her as a person ? racist!"
BingoBoingo: trinque: You ought to know danielpbarron's leather couches have a buckskin finish
mircea_popescu: THEY JUST WANT TO!
mircea_popescu: ahahaah these people are so cute, "“We are not racist and we are not Front National [the far-right party of Marine Le Pen]. We understand there is a humanitarian question here, that there are people living in misery, but we are living with incivility and a growing feeling of insecurity,” Jean-Pierre Clipet, of the FDSEA farmers’ union, said."
mircea_popescu: anyway, not to discourage research or anything.
mircea_popescu: this is what "works" means in this context ; and this is what lisp stack will have to satisfy to be not-toy.
mircea_popescu: is working in my favour, and that is because their stack offers sufficient leverage so that the costs mount for attacker sufficiently faster than for me.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:62/to:62#62 << the same thing is in principle true of cryptography generally (funny how it just keeps coming back to this again and again) : "no matter how long you make your key, it can be factored by adding more computers". this is true ; but it's up to you to make it irrelevant. the reason whenever someone does manage to ddos trilema / qntra / etc i tend to just wait is because time
mircea_popescu: hanbot there are worse fates!
hanbot: >24 hrs of rain in BsAs = auto power outages. where's the unesco world stupidity heritage designation already.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:44/to:44#44 << we're on it, redundancy is the only solution and it's being implemented. dun sweat it.
a111: Logged on 2014-05-19 09:35 mircea_popescu: in a world created of tailored punishment and precision strikes, the incentive is for the bullshit you see.
pete_dushenski: that being said, a clearer explanation (if there is one) would make a solid trilema piece. there might not be a formula for this process in these early days of the republic, but i'm not one to underestimate mp's fertile mind.
pete_dushenski: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:45/to:45#45 << why wouldn't you still be welcome ? i dunno if i've been skimming the logs too lightly but i don't recall a part where mp said that having bots/services go down/be replaced meant out-and-out excommunication. afaik mike_c, for example, is still welcome.
pete_dushenski: bible and translate are welcome additions. never know when those might come in handy.
pete_dushenski: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/05/calais-residents-protest-jungle-refugee-camp-not-racist-problem-getting-worse << lorry drivers vs. the monkeys in al-paris : the grudge match continues.
mod6: is there a way to search the logs from one of these bot?
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> it cites log lines. needs to be polished. that's all i wanted to test for now. << Excellent line to test. Many people got the order of the spraying and the cutting wrong to their loss.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but in this sense, merely writing c code is the sin ; compiling it in the nazi flavour of socialism or in the soviet flavour of socialism, llvm vs gcc, is sort-of like, what flowers to leave on the raped body, roses or tulips. << Kalanchoe!
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> openbsd plot bickens with the inclusion of llvm: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=147294297501630&w=2 << Supposedly they wanted it for a while to make Graphix wurk, but who knows anymore how far it will be taken now that it made the CD cut
shinohai: I still need to do that special help message
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> lol, I thought danielpbarron would be offended when it first appeared. << BingoBoingo is offended the Good Book is in, but the Big book is out... Perhaps add !~step and !~tradition
shinohai: I won't lie, it has made me reach for the excederin already.
diana_coman: ha! welcome shinohai to the mess of planeshift legacy code
deedbot: shinohai rated diana_coman 1 << Eulora sorcery, I bow to your greatness.
shinohai: !!rate diana_coman 1 Eulora sorcery, I bow to your greatness.
phf: that is fair, but i'm not yet sure if it was cmucl networking stack not keeping up, or digitalocean being saturated. in either case it could've been brought down by increasing the number of attacking bots.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 13:49 mircea_popescu: the republican experience with lisp to date is very sorry indeed.
phf: ha, well, so far i've ensured that http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531824 ☝︎
phf: diana_coman: thank you
phf: right, second one, don't know what first one is. maybe it's metasploit doing fuzzing? i took two representative examples though
deedbot: diana_coman rated phf 2 << Only known fault so far is making public the day he leaves for vacations. ☟︎