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mircea_popescu: note that many people drove over to defend weirdo cattle farmer.
mircea_popescu: notoriously hard to ferret out, these things.
mircea_popescu: nra's existence is not mega seekrit, among numerous other such things. much like sa's existence was not secret, but also not relevant. the commies had bigger and for that reason supposedly better paramilitaries.
asciilifeform: its existence was not mega-seekrit tho.
mircea_popescu: and why not ? the way these things work, "everyone knew" what the sa was up to. except, of course, for everyone, from pappen down.
asciilifeform: eh not as if asciilifeform would be the ~first~ to know if brownshirt legion were recruiting, but likes to think he would not be the ~last~
mircea_popescu: maybe he is. hard to tell.
asciilifeform: y'know, the fella kpss hired to run 'opposition'
mircea_popescu: i dunno what trump is gonna do ; maybe he hangs everyone ever involved with the democratic party. maybe he doesn't. if i end up in power however - i do.
asciilifeform: hasn't happened once since, idk, the assyrians? but there is always a first.
mircea_popescu: as per the von flondor doctrine.
mircea_popescu: yes. but any individual thinking himself protected because "government told me so" will still hand.
mircea_popescu: it's true.
asciilifeform: 'If the U.K. government knows that it is transferring data that may be used for drone strikes against non-combatants … that transfer is probably unlawful,” Stratford told the members of Parliament. “An individual involved in passing that information is likely to be an accessory to murder.' << l0l!
asciilifeform: handy, apparently, target beacon.
mircea_popescu: a significant number of three ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is referring to sat dish, the camel fucker's aol.
asciilifeform: https://prod01-cdn07.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2016/07/ghosthunter3.jpg << herr orlol will love the 'rocket up the sat dish' aspect of this lultron.
mircea_popescu: what exactly is "log onto the internet" supposed to fucking mean ? aol ?
asciilifeform: 'The NSA’s documents describe GHOSTHUNTER as a means “to locate targets when they log onto the internet.” It was first developed in 2006 as “the only capability of its kind” and it enabled “a significant number of capture-kill operations” against alleged terrorists. '
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/9BsSX << in other lulz. 'A classified U.S. document, dated from 2005, cautioned spy agency employees against revealing the truth. “It is important to know the established cover story for MHS [Menwith Hill Station] and to protect the fact that MHS is an intelligence collection facility,” the document stated. “Any reference to satellites being operated or any connection to intelligence gathering is strictly pro
asciilifeform: 'Lisa Boeri is a successful businesswoman obsessed with her career - on day. But on night, she is visiting private nightclub Tulpa, club where your sickest, most erotic fantasies come true.'
mircea_popescu: if i for some reason decide to review this movie, there goes about 60% of all the google juice and thus existence of the whole anglotard appropriation effort.
asciilifeform: what i can't readily apprehend is wtf do they bother.
asciilifeform: eh i was hopin' to learn who sent it.
shinohai: Now how will we ever know if mircea_popescu fools around with tulpas
mircea_popescu: still with this ?
BingoBoingo: Prolly all the ethanol varnished his carbuerator
alice_: i'm p sure there aren't interesting folk around tho
asciilifeform: somebody oughta buy that fella a new set of pistons for his modem.
asciilifeform: shinohai: approx. 'do not try to slip in with your own set of vows into another's monastery' ☟︎
shinohai: !~translate ru to en в чужой монастырь со своим уставом не ходят
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> this happens, just like at your university, in the manner the elders decide. and not the manner the novice prefers. << Unless your university is new Social Justice Mizzou that wants to tear down the original Thomas Jefferson grave marker,
asciilifeform: there are people who do not like this. the exit hatch is to your left, pull the red lever.
asciilifeform: this happens, just like at your university, in the manner the elders decide. and not the manner the novice prefers. ☟︎
asciilifeform: alice_: presumably you are here because you heard that there were interesting folk around, and wished to learn something.
asciilifeform: i recommend to look it up
asciilifeform: (largely limited to extremely large system with numerous ~independently functioning modules)
asciilifeform: was slow to catch on, because if your language isn't braindamaged, the ~actual~ domain for oopism is quite small.
asciilifeform: various larval forms thereof - prior.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 22:45 ben_vulpes: lisp has had seamless oop since what the seventies?
asciilifeform: (missing metaobject protocol - no introspection; lack of even such a basic thing as the mix-in)
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 22:31 mircea_popescu: anyway, the original linked lisp verbiage was funny to me mostly because it's all written from the perspective of "object oriented is god". which was very much groupthink cca 2006.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 23:10 mircea_popescu: "So XEmacs has never been a particularly good tool for serious Emacs users because even though it's written in C, it crashes like a mature C++ application." mwahahaha
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536560 << emacs, like unix earlier, or much later - bitcoin, was a shitprototype that got stuck in battlefield use ~forever. ☝︎
shinohai: Best trilema article I have read all week too
asciilifeform: alice_: mircea_popescu dedicated an entire article to you.
jurov: she wanted to know more about assholes
asciilifeform: sooo alice_ iirc i was the one you were originally looking for. what do you wish to know..?
asciilifeform: (the dollar, that is.)
asciilifeform: i traded a hefty shoebox of rubles for it.
asciilifeform: it had 8 buttons, for 8 types of bleep/bloop/etc.
BingoBoingo: But it does pull the wings off
asciilifeform: reminds me of the keychain i spend my first u.s. dollar on, BingoBoingo
alice_: does mircea_popescu fool around with tulpas
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that thing is a snore.
jhvh1: 2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
alice_: this _is_ related to why you are assholes
asciilifeform: n00bz are slowly disassembled into component atoms and - on occasion - reassemble themselves into something that is interesting to have conversation with.
asciilifeform: alice_: think of it as a kind of boot camp.
alice_: asciilifeform: tell me more about why you're asking. this channel is assholes, which is a communication style i'm not used to, so i'd like more details :)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cutting screws with them at the moment
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they're all great when new.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I finally acquired a pair of needlenose pliers that don't seem to suck
asciilifeform: and they actually work, somewhat surprisingly. at least for now. LJ12A3.
BingoBoingo: panniculus spread their legs in a seated position too far to reach the pedals
BingoBoingo recently saw a transmay get winded moving from their scootypuff to a riding lawnmower to see if the small tractors would "fit"
alice_: so does mircea_popescu fool around with tulpas or
BingoBoingo: re: tulpas, when I first saw the word in use I assumed based on phonetics that hamplanets were ascirbing personalities to their FUPAS
mircea_popescu: "So XEmacs has never been a particularly good tool for serious Emacs users because even though it's written in C, it crashes like a mature C++ application." mwahahaha ☟︎
ben_vulpes: lisp has had seamless oop since what the seventies? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "At the risk of predicting future fashion trends, which is rarely a good idea, I'll venture that objects are going to continue to be trendy for at least a few more decades. So I think Lisp needs some form of "seamless" OOP." and all that.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the original linked lisp verbiage was funny to me mostly because it's all written from the perspective of "object oriented is god". which was very much groupthink cca 2006. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they stole from the losers. logical.
mircea_popescu: you meant above the bsd userland didn't exist ?
mircea_popescu: but stallman wanted to wait n years for some ivy league product.
mircea_popescu: no, actually, actually architect wanted to just adapt a bsd
asciilifeform: bsd, recall, in modern sense, was not yet a thing.
asciilifeform: torvalds lifted the userland utils
asciilifeform: and dead folk dun admit things
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, torvalds is achievement of hurd ? wut ?
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, t
asciilifeform: rather than the acronym thing
mircea_popescu: this is a communist government ; the only cure is grave.
mircea_popescu: what, you think that made them admit they suck ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did i fall into a parallel universe some time recently where linus lifting the hurd userland never happened ?
mircea_popescu: "It's time [to] explain the meaning of "Hurd". "Hurd" stands for "Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons". And, then, "Hird" stands for "Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth". We have here, to my knowledge, the first software to be named by a pair of mutually recursive acronyms." << arguably its most notable accomplishment to date.
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, "The GNU Hurd is under active development. Because of that, there is no stable version." << cca may 2016
mircea_popescu: this isn't no kids left behind club ; but on the contrary.
shinohai: "i lost the passphrase for the gpg key i created yesterday and i can't decrypt the msg mircea_popescu sent me...is it ok if a create another key and register with this?"
asciilifeform: '...some observations that I think are relevant to anyone who writes programs (start reading from “the dubious future of emacs“). It's hard to argue with the value of self-hosting. It's even harder to argue with the momentum of the browser and dynamic environments.' << gold.
mircea_popescu: you prolly recall this, iirc was in the logs.
asciilifeform: azon CEO Jeff Bezos "Dread Pirate Bezos"). Google co-founder Sergey Brin stated that he would still have his job.'
asciilifeform: 'Yegge accidentally made an internal Google memo public on Google+ in October 2011. His 3,700-word comment garnered major media and blogger attention for Yegge's pointed commentary criticizing the leanings of the company's technological culture (such as labeling Google+'s minimalist and, in his view, lackluster public platform "a pathetic afterthought") as well as for his comments about his former employer, Amazon (such as calling Am
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's rather evident that there's a mutually-reinforcing ring of idiots. check out yegge's wikipedia article, for instance. curated with love.
asciilifeform: how any stranger than sexprerts who have no sex, 'chemists' who never touched glass, the lot.
mircea_popescu: it's mildly shocking to see the whole pile of supposed lisp experts who are actually not known to have written, let alone run, any lisp.
asciilifeform: yegge appears to be a thing much beloved by alice_ .
mircea_popescu: (apparently a badly balanced something or the other by steve yegge - you know, the supposedly notable derp behind http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptable-lisp.html and a whole load of java, ruby etc) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it gets the block number through deeding anyway