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Framedragger: because 1) other sites' experience may be impacted, and 2) phuctor db would place some load on things. why = because i'd create a few indices, those would hog some memory, and assuming users want to do quite a bit of sorting etc, would take some cpu time
as well. just sayin'. nothing scientific.
mod6: I think the idea would be to get back to some sort of analog of what mike_c had in place. And then add improvments
as necessary.
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: i'll think about this next week. it may be that it's not really needed, yeah - i agree. and integration of things such
as ssh server banners with phuctor keys is something that asciilifeform said he'd be up to do on phuctor's db itself..
Framedragger: i mentioned js in relation to WoT
as it's more applicable there (lots of ready-made libraries for discrete graph visualizations and so on)
Framedragger: i suppose the idea could be to re-implement that, but using deedbot's view of WoT, and add additional things
as desired.
☟︎ mod6: So I wanted to avoid that. But going forward, I think that'll just some sort of optional field or whatnot. I'm excited to put some work into that
as soon
as I can here.
Framedragger: mod6: sure! maybe "assignee" would have the desired (lesser) connotation, i don't know. coming from some trac feature/bug tracking in distributed teams experience, 'owner' is there interpreted
as simply 'person who is ultimately responsible for implementing/fixing this', with other collaborators invited and acknowledged
mats:
as well
as stability and adaptive cruise control
pete_dushenski: mats: do you see the appeal in the whole autonomous driving thing ? it strikes me
as appealing to the same neophilic and inconsiderate mind that wanted to vote shillary in simply because she's a woman and WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT, not because the consequences had any bearing on the decision making process. frankly the idea that sv-shitware was in total control of my vehicle is frightening. that many millions
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: after laocoon was getting connect/disconnect blackholed about a week ago i threw down the banhammer
as well
as manually banning some decently large ip ranges that were acting the fool. now very slowly catching up to full height but down from ~70 connex to ~15.
Framedragger: i guess another thing is, it would be nice for #trilema folx to be able to test their own phuctor-related hypotheses without having to download all the data. but, it's not
as if it's exabytes of data or anything...
mircea_popescu: this,
as an evolutionary superset of "i'll just dump a db of banners and you're more than welcome to match yourselves" ?
Framedragger: so there would be no decision making needed
as regards user friendliness / abstract buttons
Framedragger: there would be,
as per my current plan, two 'portals'. one would expose the db (postgres). current plan: ths would use phppgadmin. it's maintained and stable. user would make use of a read-only db role. so you could run sql queries on the whole thing. "whole thing" = sql schema which
mircea_popescu: not terrible, has all the needed parts except "which shall provide a platform for those interested in analysing RSA keys and the surrounding metadata collected and provided by Phuctor" could benefit from (such
as : by x, and y, and z)
as it's currently not even vaguely clear what i could do on that platform.
mircea_popescu doesn't believe in this whole virtualization thing
as implemented by cloud/vps/etc. the only virtualization that makes sense to me is via teh uci.
Framedragger: (also, my initial plan was to ask for a month
as i can't predict with absolute certainty actual resource requirements. but i think i have a decent picture of what's needed.)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i plan to set up a "phuctor results investigation dashboard". (iirc trinque or someone planned to do sth of the kind, but since this overlaps with the "check distinct banner amounts etc", i may
as well do it properly). nothing fancy so
as to keep it actually deliverable, but i have a plan.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the whole "oh, microsoft secure implants" is really just so much narcissism.
as the raped girl angrily if unsuccessfully points out (
http://trilema.com/2013/the-dead-jew-and-the-raped-girl/ ), the peasants could at any point not have been peasants. "could". the pretense that "couldn't" is exactly what kept them in line them, and it's the source of this "secure implants bla bla" wet dream.
mircea_popescu:
as this realisation grips the masses, watch for the populist politicians display a turn of heart about the term "future".
mircea_popescu: just because i'm influential doesn't mean i'm universal. a grass eating quadripede in south america is just
as much a herbivore
as the common horse, even if they never met.
mircea_popescu: no, i want him to be
as upset
as he can muster about it ; and then still not actually manage to do anything about it.
mircea_popescu: because the common man consists principally of shit, and
as something becomes "popular" it becomes shitty.
mircea_popescu: needless to say, the most usg will ever collect on that is
as many bullets
as its agents can carry.
mircea_popescu: gimmicky
as per usual. cgt affair. really more in the vein of 7-800 ppls but w/e.
ben_vulpes: ahaha "a demonstrator disguised
as santa clause gestures next to a christmas tree with signs demanding aid plans and reform bills"
mircea_popescu: so you know, add it in help output
as a matter of best practice
mircea_popescu: anyway, the prognosis for loper-entrants seems to be a lot worse than for trilema entrants.
as gabriel_laddel points out, you're unhinged.
Framedragger: interestingly, i believe that i first discovered this insane asylum by reading loper-os (presumably same
as gabriel_laddel). it appealed to me straight away because i could relate on a purely technical level (inasmuch
as a youngling can 'relate', etc.) [also, registered nanotube's WoT key before mircea_popescu muaha]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger there's this phenomenon multiple people confessed to (inc, famously, pete_dushenski ) whereby trilema takes a while to read but then clicks. that while is months. getting someone to read it for months
as a deliberate act seems beyond the feasible.
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: why did you take gabriel-laddel.github.io/system.html offline (just curious)? (it's still in google cache.) decided it'd be not
as easy to commercialize? :p
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: i don't have much free time now, either. maybe end of next week, at this rate. re. CLIM web - any notes / writeup to help?
as in, 20min of your time to save some hours of my time while helping you?
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: phf: anyways, I only think we'll be using the browser
as a tool to suck information out of into CLIM in the near future.
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: possible to ship x220's to US for you? not that i'm committing
as of now. there are nice refurbished ones here in UK
Framedragger: trinque's invoice thing may come useful. but then, there's more space to bridge, such
as the vast gap between person who wants to buy useful item and person spending coins from trb so can pay invoice....
mircea_popescu: yes, but
as a more general thing, re earlier discussion. bitcoin has 0 infrastructure, just a bunch of dorkage.
gabriel_laddel: Framedragger: The browser, conkeror has all the same keybindings
as emacs.
mircea_popescu: tmsr-web
as in, not replacing apache, replacing mozillachrome ?
Framedragger: you know, i wonder how postgresql has managed not to die, and to remain,
as far
as i can see it, a quality product still. both in terms of codebase, and in terms of the set of maintainers and current engineers. probably very strict selection criteria, very strong people in the initial set (funded by / researchers at .su technical uni etc)
Framedragger: (hm, looks lamer when put
as an irc line, i'faith.)
Framedragger: "The third period,
as we have seen, was prepared in 1897 and [...] was a period of disunity, dissolution, and vacillation. [...] by way of summing up what has been expounded above, we may meet the question, What is to be done? with the brief reply: Put an End to the Third Period."
mircea_popescu: there's nothing substantively making the data less comprehensible than the commentary. on the contrary, if you had to write a parser it'd be easier to write it for the data - the commentary is baseless and
as such incomprehensible through sheer variance.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 08:50 jurov: i just threw my hands in disgust and use electrum. negrate
as you wish.
Framedragger: there,
as in say, in the challenge in question? i would imagine, curiosity, and a deeper need to do something smart and meaningful, and hoping that the people organizing this give such an opportunity. and folx are willing to spend many hours pursuing that.
mircea_popescu: the republic lives off tooling and infrastructure, and what is tooling and infrastructure develops out of you know, lived life.
as a matter of necessity this can't be aforestated in its entirety.
a111: Logged on 2014-06-02 18:30 mircea_popescu: Up until recently it was practically impossible to become embroiled into any sort of dealing with the subgroup, their ownership being strictly assumed and their lives strictly subsumed by the corporations competent at dealing with the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets, the government. Both
as employers and providers these specialised bureaucracies have the necessary tools, including cattle prods (or what
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. bdsm board, sure it could be, the latter,
as i understood it, would be a general e2e encrypted forum board (permanent post) solution with signatures etc.
mircea_popescu: doing this
as such is slated, for a little later. but since i was on fiverr anyway from the article, well...
mircea_popescu: because they won't
as much
as fucking read the text, you understand, and then come back with "what is the problem friend".
mircea_popescu: that site incidentally is entirely constructed on stupid. the likeliness of their advertising open work orders (called "requests") is inverse to... the number of already present offers. counted.
as such. except obviously the posts are mostly spam.
mircea_popescu: but the most informative part of this is - nobody seems to seriously dispute the obvious problem that "the btc address is 30 symbols long - what if i get one wrong ?!" ; yet even with that much accepted of the fundamental principle of republican money, ie, injective payment function - the obvious extension to sum is ... not so obvious. "oh what if i get one of 8 digits wrong ?" "i dunno dude... same
as if you got 4 symbols wr
mircea_popescu: for
as long
as it doesn't take itself seriously i dun see the problem with it.
mircea_popescu: and the strangest part being, that he expects we'll be upset with him for it.
as if you know, they're there because i was bored one evening and came up with some arbitrary dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: this is no good, what can i tell you. you're more than welcome to use it
as your own software, but it's braindamage and it ain't convincing me.
mircea_popescu: jurov the problem is one of optics. you have not "seen paying" anyone for .achristianfamily either, but you credit the empire and discredit the republic for reasons we're invited to not misrepresent
as misplaced loyalties, i guess. similarly with electrum - yes, for
as long
as you stick to the credit empire discredit republic mindset, it "enables" you.
☟︎ jurov: and i'd congratulate to 1500 btc mpex seats,
as long
as someone is actually seen paying :)
jurov: i just threw my hands in disgust and use electrum. negrate
as you wish.
☟︎ BingoBoingo:
As is "sober except for these pills my dr keeps prescribing"
shinohai: Wonder if they fixed that "Let's run everything
as uid 0 in Win10 bash" thing. Maybe the fundation can give them pointers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole "ssh key made on debian recast
as gpg key" thing is pretty bizarre.
mircea_popescu: lmao at usg complete unravel. kirby of state dept makes claims in public. op asks for details. kirby responds by claiming that he didn't make the claims he made and that "they've seen" "credible" reports from "aid organisations". which terms mean
as follows "they've seen" = "some starving intern at random mfa blog pulled from ass" "credible" = "saddam wmd" and "aid organisations" = "hillary's friends children trafficing netwo
mircea_popescu: it's true that linux recognizes ethernet devices. it's not true that it loads it or dhcps over it (unless idiotic defaults, which sure, african os argument prevails). but non-192.168.*
as local zone requires fiddling with configs.
mircea_popescu: generally the problem with these fringes (of finance, tech, you name it) is that the "people" involved correctly score themselves
as more able with other things than the subject. so you get a lot of "value add", ie, "services".
mircea_popescu:
as an anonymous local derp pointed out in the timeless form of graffiti, "todo lo que hecho es culpa"
Framedragger: "fix your broken shitty keys"
as a service anyone? :p
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't, not really.
as pissed off
as i/anyone can be, "What I currently see
as best option is to actually comment out those 2 lines of code. But I have no idea what effect this really has on the RNG. The only effect I see is that the pool might receive less entropy. But on the other hand, I'm not even sure how much entropy some unitialised data has. What do you people think about removing those 2 lines of code?
Framedragger: cool. (no hurries
as i'm busy with stuff till next ~wednesday anyway)
ben_vulpes: to achieve the same effect with fans you'd need to dissipate at least the same amount of energy through the fan motors
as you'd liberate from the fuel, no?
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