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a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 20:13 mircea_popescu: so i guess
that's ANOTHER F for adlai ;
to celebrate his first day back
to "all day ircing".
adlai: BingoBoingo: also in
the footnote, 'establish' needs an -ing or -ment
jhvh1: 10. Continued
to
take personal inventory, and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "what dat" is a pregnant americanism, as for
the second sentence, you need a rewrite
to parse?
ben_vulpes: the underlying joke of 'abject failure' is
that was never even remotely a purpose
mircea_popescu: oh and also, "especially if you're
the hardworking-yet-broke, but-somehow-stupid-enough-to-be-family-having
type like myself." is
the story of a generation. write a blog for
them,
they will come.
mircea_popescu: and in other news, a proper postmortem piece re "I attribute a large part of my abject failure
to stuff cubicles with commodity labor and churn out software all day long
to how willing" when ?
mircea_popescu: "What, as we say, dat? Could Uber be competing
to own
the vertical and horizontal in a space and failing
to bite off an element of
the business model
that profitability is predicated on
the ownership of?" << ben_vulpes can you say
that again, but in a language,
this
time ?
mircea_popescu: check it out, danielpbarron somehow has a recent comments plugin
that includes diana_coman 's blog ?!
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
phf: there was a scifi story where a ship landed on a planet, lush, beautiful, with a cow like creatures inhabiting it. so
they
taste
the cow meat, and
they hang out, until, and i'll spoil it for you,
they all
turn, one by one, into same case
mircea_popescu: but
the bovine quality of
the inhabitants of
that land (btw, it's pretty clear by now north america destroys
the soul : if you recall
the spanish ran into
the same useless pussies back cca 1500 as
the marauding hordes would meet
today. apparently it dun matter if redskin or allegedly paleskin - if you live in north america you
turn into buffalo) has little
to do with some sort of eternal logic of armsmastery.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-18 23:30 mircea_popescu: armed enough
to be murdered for it ; not armed enough
to keep angry mob at bay.
ben_vulpes: title song off
that album is rather good.
mircea_popescu: i mean again as in you should have started with
that ; and i'm giving you
the benefit of
the doubt pretending like you did and i didn't notice.
jhvh1: 5. Admitted
to God,
to ourselves, and
to another human being
the exact nature of our wrongs.
BingoBoingo: Nah, because
tradition. However do add responses for !~tradition1, etc. Also add a reply for
the seekrit 13th step.
shinohai: BingoBoingo while I'm in here
this evening, you want a oglafbot added ?
mircea_popescu: armed enough
to be murdered for it ; not armed enough
to keep angry mob at bay.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: still, even
thinking about it, both dagger and knife are insane weapons for
the lone operator. unless with a group of friends, preferably sons of
the people running
the city as seein in italian renaissance for example, you're asking
to be killed.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lafond never heard how caesar died or what. << Historicaly common, but was uncommon among
the fauna local
to him historicaly.
BingoBoingo: sop is also what you do with a mop
to get water off
the floor
phf: also sop is
to ask for a pm from anyone who's speaking (i.e. awake and at keyboard) at
the moment
BingoBoingo: yr: Register a key, flagg me down when you do, collect a rating, and learn
to voice yourself?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-16 19:47 pete_dushenski: 'I was dead-set on finding a house with a garbage disposal, or "garburator" as our sorry ("Sorry!") neighbors
to
the North call
them,' << l0l! love
the souble dorry. also, i've never lived in a house or condo with a garburator and may never.
yr: well, I'm going
to lurk for a while -- is
there another way
to flag you down besides pm?
yr: just noticed -
that
the real luke-jr?
phf: anyway, i should probably write
the first version up, while it's a lul between attempts
mircea_popescu: so you know,
there's no benefit
to be acrued
through hiding hacks from view.
phf: but obviously it doesn't have
to be just load, can also be code
that does a mutation on state or whatever
mircea_popescu: phf no point in being
too ashamed of
the early pubescence of
the republic. if
that's
the best
that can be done
then
that's
the best
that can be done, others may be able
to improve on it which is welcome, but
there's complete immunity from
the very hollow somethingawful approach of "your
tobacco uses pot lol". nobody cares, really, what something awful may say or
think on any
topic, chiefly because
they're fundamentally idiots.
phf: so
the vpatch becomes something like "getting baz
to work^L(load "foo") (load "bar") diff ... foo.lisp ... +... -... etc diff bar.lisp ... +... -..."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i understand
the dream. just pointing out
that it didn't work once before.
phf: so i use it
to put a patch description, but if
the section has ^L\n( or ^L\n;
then i just execute everything between ^L and diff ... after
the patch has been applied
mircea_popescu: phf maybe im just behind
the
times. for all i know
they use javascript internally all over blizzard now, whatevs.
phf: err, before
the first ^diff ...
phf: so my v based deployment had a hack, vpatch by diff artifact has a prelude section,
that you can put whatever in. it's basically space before
the first --- line
phf: but
that's a hell of a lot more work
phf: ben_vulpes: actually right now i'm heathen-ing it, by using quicklisp
too. problem is btcbase depends on 35 different projects (like hunchentoot pulls 8 deps, cl-irc 2, etc.) so cmucl version i had all 35 hand patched
to various degrees.
the right way seems
to be giving all
those project
the v
treatment: pull
them in, strip
them of fluff, genesis, etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-18 21:40 mircea_popescu: iirc in
the early days of c-as-replacement-for-straight-asm it's exactly how compiler became a
thing. "dude... fuck hardware."
phf: yes, scp, screen, asdf. i had a v based deployment but i wasn't happy with it, so i'm
trying
to rethink it
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-04-01 20:37 phf:
trinque: rsync,
tmux, asdf, really nothing smarter
than
that
phf: hmm, good
thing
that guard was
there..
phf: that was not
the right command..
phf: oh i
thought
they use lua for mainloops, but actually i'm not sure. it might just be all scripting. one "fast" lua project
that i know, which is luke gorrie's "snabb switch", uses luajit
though
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [18:22:30] <asciilifeform> phf (and any other interested folk) if you have a bit of spare change, buy yourself a 'pcengines api2', either 2 or 4gb model, it's
this comp
that comes with schematics.
then we can play.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [18:14:14] <asciilifeform> i actually considered all of
this in '07 but rejected because 'idiots will patch it
to do jit and bring back all of
the evils'
mircea_popescu: i mean because "don't do
this, don't use it
there, don't do
this way". in any game
there are parts you could do in fucking xml.
that you write
those in lua, or lisp, or anything does not make
the anytihng "fast enough for gaming", much like
the 14yo doing
the parts of "slut"
that don't include fucking doesn't make
the 14yo "old enough for sex"
phf: you mean because
there's luajit and no wot?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [18:02:22] <phf> i
think main line lua is
that way, very
tight interpreter, and i guess it's fast enough for gaming (tm)(c)
mircea_popescu: iirc in
the early days of c-as-replacement-for-straight-asm it's exactly how compiler became a
thing. "dude... fuck hardware."
☟︎ BingoBoingo: yr: Don't worry much. You aren't
the first
to be shock by just how much is going on here, but so far you are
the most polite.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [17:55:52] <phf> back when i knew
the guy, i had a plan
to stay in his house for a couple of weeks, wean him off his meds and depending on how
that goes, give him acid
to poke at his brain. he had some odd blindspots in his
thinking
that i wasn't sure if
they were result of medication, or inherent. somehow multiple people were all up in arms against my plan, so i will never
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol, guy
tries
to do a nice
thing, discovers
the size of
the republic,
ton of birkcs.
phf: (i
turned off a111 for mkj)
yr: where can I read about
the real bitcoin foundation?
BingoBoingo: 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 << Supports
the work of
the real bitcoin foundation. But yes many sites.
yr: I wasn't aware
there was more
than one
mircea_popescu: well
there's
the income
tax address of
teh republic...
yr: is
there an address for
that?
yr: was just expressing my appreciation for your collective work, and would like
to provide a small donation for hitting
the site up once in a while for my informations
mircea_popescu: sad fucking nonsense,
they hung mengele for much less.
BingoBoingo: yr: I don't know you well enough
to PM, so now you have voice!
BingoBoingo: Anyways on
the bipolar
they swing from anti-convulsants
to antipsychotic depending on what's
trendy
that year.
mircea_popescu: i don't
trust an us educated psychiatrist anymore
than i'd
trust a shaman orthopedist.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [17:51:09] <phf>
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1544418 << i
thought psychosis was pretty common with bipolar, during
the manic or depressive phases. at least in usg
they prescribe antipsychotics
to bipolars,
though i'm not sure if
that's always
the case. supposedly you can
take
them on
their own, because
they have mood stabilizing effects
a111: Logged on 2016-09-18 17:51 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1544418 << i
thought psychosis was pretty common with bipolar, during
the manic or depressive phases. at least in usg
they prescribe antipsychotics
to bipolars,
though i'm not sure if
that's always
the case. supposedly you can
take
them on
their own, because
they have mood stabilizing effects
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, and
they're not directly wrong, which is both rarte and helpful for
this purpose.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [17:24:27] <phf>
the advantage of something like a vop in general, is
that you can emit part of
the assembly
that you're
trying
to get working in isolation first, can emit it and call in realtime (i.e. in a repl), can have multiple versions of until you get it right, etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-18 17:24 phf:
the advantage of something like a vop in general, is
that you can emit part of
the assembly
that you're
trying
to get working in isolation first, can emit it and call in realtime (i.e. in a repl), can have multiple versions of until you get it right, etc.
BingoBoingo: Kinda
the point.
Their meanings can be reinterpreted over a lifetime for
those sick folk who need it, because capable of only unhealthy relations with booze et al.