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mircea_popescu: the girl i last fucked in the ass was... NINE years old last i visited the us. and at the time i last visited the us, "all the women that were with me -- were with me" also.

mod6: Not only FFA, but other parts of TRB that I'd love to educate myself upon. I think you take my meaning.

mod6: And before the republic, I was very much a one-thing-at-a-time type of engineer. Seems like over the last year or maybe 18 months, I feel like I'm context switching so much, that I find it hard to get deep into the thinking that I need to. For instance, it bothers me that I still haven't found time to work through FFA. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:22 asciilifeform: i could even see an argument that the charter could permit 'trb-i' work under the flag of tbf. but that's as far as it goes, per my reading

mod6: One other thing that I should note here, perhaps, is that I feel like I really get into the work deep into thought; when doing the trb related work. ☟︎

diana_coman: I certainly think mod6 is and has been doing a great job in maintaining the v-tree for trb - and as I said before, I don't think it's something linked to tbf chair position

mod6: I'm really lacking in the 'sales' end of things with Pizarro too, obviously.

mod6: I feel like I can be pretty successful in doing that, it's the other things that I feel like I'm lacking -- a senseable direction to a 'Standford'. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: (the schmuck in question, whiom i wil lstubbornly not name, was so adept at rabble rousing, pompey had trouble leaving his fucking house. notwithstanding pompey stood with caesar approx in the position the duke of exter stood with the leading perfume seller on the strand.)

mod6: I love trb, and doing the foundation. I take a very measured, meticulous, methodical, and detail oriented approach to the work to provide a very sound patch set -- as best as I can.

mircea_popescu: i don't necessarily disagree -- but the explanation stands as such.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm sold.

a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:35 asciilifeform: at the risk of 'bureaucratism', i'd suggest to mod6 & ben_vulpes to amend charter to explicitly make clear the duties of the chair, prior to swapping chairs. but would be curious to see what mircea_popescu thinks.

mod6: It's hard, I'm super conflicted about the whole thing.

mod6: Pizarro, on the other hand, I'm more of a fish out of water. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:35 mircea_popescu: but yes, personal slaves of sultan. and i can see why, and i thought thence all the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856322 style comments. what i can't see is why they'd make them boys. orphans or not, there's still http://trilema.com/2018/traditional-family-vs-the-harem-a-comparative-study/ that controls.

diana_coman: PeterL - was waiting on your patch for the 255 instead of 256 error on keccak but since it didn't come, I patched it http://ossasepia.com/2018/02/15/eucrypt-chapter-10-oaep-with-keccak-a-la-tmsr/comment-page-1/#comment-4254 ; ref http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856345 ☝︎

mod6: Right now, I've got two major struggles. The Foundation, which I feel like I've been at least successful at the trb curation end of (and am certainly much more well suited for), and Pizarro.

mod6: I think, and I guess I could be wrong here, that it could be a good time to bring in some new leadership to the foundation.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: link to photo ? i'm not seeing a photo

mircea_popescu: all the foregoing aside, i very much hope mod6 dun take any of it as some kind of personal rebuff. i agree with all the others who like him very much, because i also.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856463 << nope, but i ended up finding : it was polarbeard, and item was never absorbed into flagship ☝︎

asciilifeform: but upstack, pretty sure i grasp the point re contracts, they are not substitute for actual cohesion , and anyone who tries to substitute , ends up with obummer's empire, yes

a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 04:01 asciilifeform: it's a q for the current board. i suggested to ask hanbot because hanbot is known as a very skilled organizational hand, and not currently running anyffing ( aside from, possibly, mircea_popescu's janissary corps )

mircea_popescu: but yes, personal slaves of sultan. and i can see why, and i thought thence all the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856322 style comments. what i can't see is why they'd make them boys. orphans or not, there's still http://trilema.com/2018/traditional-family-vs-the-harem-a-comparative-study/ that controls. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: was thinking of janissary corps , i.e. 'ss'/leibstandarte, rather than empire as whole

mircea_popescu: i also can't speak.

mircea_popescu: well i have, in both holes. what specifically did you have in mind ?

a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:07 mircea_popescu: the utility of such devices is very moderate indeed -- ALL it ever does is support the otherwise spurious pretense that slaves are not in fact slaves but somehow citizens. lincoln needed this to support his tenuous attempts on fucking over his country. i can't imagine what we'd need it for.

BingoBoingo: I am unsure

mircea_popescu: aaand there goes my trilema article for the day. i wonder why i never get to publish anything anymore...

a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 15:24 mircea_popescu: and if experience with the empire of "i just want to" lazy idiots is any guide, they're DEFINITELY not going to "get in trouble for buying microsoft". because "nobody could have predicted" and "they were just doing their job" which "hey man, it's just a gig, it's not my life!"

mircea_popescu: the essence, inalienable and substantial, of all freedom, is global responsibility. yes this means that you may end up blindsided by landing empires of bugs. it also, together and inseparably, means that you may be a person, and things such as "i'm not about to tell you what comp lang to use" etc. as counterdistinct from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666454 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: this stance informs my http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-24#1837545 as well as my position here : there's very limited use for an enumeration of duties in a lordship forum. it's fine and dandy if any lord wishes to use it in training his own slaves, but this is pointedly not what i'm contemplating in these halls. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: the utility of such devices is very moderate indeed -- ALL it ever does is support the otherwise spurious pretense that slaves are not in fact slaves but somehow citizens. lincoln needed this to support his tenuous attempts on fucking over his country. i can't imagine what we'd need it for. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: an "employment contract", a writ which delineates what the ~~~SLAVE~~~ is to do is no kind of contract. its only use is for the slave to oppose to master, "but why should i be blamed for not doing x, it's not written in here".

mircea_popescu: if i tell a girl "keep the palace floors clean", it's one thing. if i tell a girl "clean from here to here, this is your mop this is your detergent you're to be done by noon", it's another thing.

mircea_popescu: i think the problems people in general encounter in conceptualizing contracts come from a very misfortunate but clearly delineated source, so let me belabour the matter to understand each other for all time.

asciilifeform: no i get this.

mircea_popescu: it may shock "the community" of not-bdsm to find that i... DONT have "Slavery contracts" either.

asciilifeform: i'ma agree that 'delineate it in contract' is not solution.

asciilifeform: physics, imho, has failed, i.e. accepted eternally snowballing complexity liquishit in place of unifications ( 9000 threads.. )

mircea_popescu: i think maybe we're not talking together.

mircea_popescu: so ok, i'll bite. what is "the job of pysicist" ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663960 << this one, i think ☝︎

asciilifeform: i'm sympathetic to the scandinavian view -- yes, world will perish in fire and ice, nothing is 4evah, etc. but doesn't excuse surrender.

mircea_popescu: i mean, it's ok to ask things of people. even difficult things. but can you ask the impossible ?

asciilifeform: at the risk of 'bureaucratism', i'd suggest to mod6 & ben_vulpes to amend charter to explicitly make clear the duties of the chair, prior to swapping chairs. but would be curious to see what mircea_popescu thinks. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i suppose the fundamental headache is that the charter never explicitly specified that the chair is who does.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i dun particularly care who in l1 does it, for so long as it keeps being done.

diana_coman: I don't see that related to one specific chair, I guess; i.e. I don't even see a problem if mod6 wants to continue testing the patches and maintaining the tree even if he is not trb chair (not that he has to continue, but neither does he have to pass the job on if he is not chair anymore)

asciilifeform: as i observed just today and on 9000 occasions, even the simple thing of 'why can a trb node be 100 blox behind a fellow trb peer' is not yet licked

asciilifeform: fwiw i see my own work on trb, to date, as a ~defensive~ affair, i.e. to make whatever fixes req'd to keep the thing working precisely as it worked in 2009, in the face of the very real and continuing network rot / 9000 forms of active attack from heathendom to date

diana_coman: I agree that there is plenty of work to be done on trb, sure; but I don't see the subtraction thing

asciilifeform: way i see it, if hanbot takes over mod6's duties, then oughta at least carry on what he was doing ( i.e. maintenance of the flagship tree, testing of candidate patches ) ☟︎

diana_coman: i.e. what does one have to do with the other? what, hanbot should now start working on trb if she becomes chair?

diana_coman: I don't follow your reasoning there

asciilifeform: way i see it, there's plenty of sharp edges left on good old trb, and any new work ought not to subtract from the very real remaining work of smoothing'em out.

diana_coman: I think that's precisely what the chairs need to figure out: "what might fit under this " and be useful, ofc ☟︎

diana_coman: i.e. tbf going into uncharted territory and thriving

asciilifeform: i suppose. simply can't picture yet , what might fit under this .

diana_coman: sure it is, but that's more of the point from what I see

asciilifeform: and the orig 'rotor', i baked for tbf, and from it we have the musl thing, etc

asciilifeform: i could even see an argument that the charter could permit 'trb-i' work under the flag of tbf. but that's as far as it goes, per my reading ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856296 << i gotta admit that i dun see point in 'growth for growth's sake'. there was already prb 'foundation' for ~that~. tbf is for maintaining & improving (constructively! there's plenty of actual ills to cure, that dun reduce to 'not enuff heathen notoriety' ) trb. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( i.e. i dun recall spain defending any claims to the contents of sunken 17th c. galleons that usa regularly picked up in '70s-'80s )

a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 11:51 esthlos: trinque: asdf is used to join the pieces together (keccak, gpg, etc.) for use by the vtron proper. I tried to build the vtron modularly, and my understanding is that asdf is the standard for handling modules in common lisp. is there a better way to do package management in cl?

asciilifeform: at some point i'ma try ben_vulpes's 'moar aggress' variant, which cures this.

asciilifeform: i'm pretty curious why a trb node is able to answer pfrom->PushGetBlocks(pindexBest, uint256(0)); with ANYTHING other than the immediately-missing next block, when it is known to have it.

asciilifeform: ( after 'aggression' i find that this condition lasts a day or 2, max, but was quite curious re how it is able to come about to begin with. )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856328 << phf, this is neato ! i'ma try it today. ☝︎

esthlos: trinque: asdf is used to join the pieces together (keccak, gpg, etc.) for use by the vtron proper. I tried to build the vtron modularly, and my understanding is that asdf is the standard for handling modules in common lisp. is there a better way to do package management in cl? ☟︎

ave1: diana_coman, thanks! yes I see and I did forget

diana_coman: ave1, you forgot to change manifest file for your zfp_4_assert.vpatch? (i.e. it's missing from the list in manifest)

diana_coman: I mean: please "snarf" as per existing term of art

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856174 -> I suppose new world hostels might be better than old world ones, esp italian ones (though I'll grant that they were best for meeting people, yes) ☝︎

esthlos: trinque: wrt the keccak vtron, see http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YWfb5/?raw=true . I haven't managed to get asdf working with ccl, though the sbcl version builds and appears to work. Note that the thing will barf on non-keccak vpatches. Write-up will come in the next few days. I also have some log catch-up to do: will read the context and repond to your other question soon.

asciilifeform: it's a q for the current board. i suggested to ask hanbot because hanbot is known as a very skilled organizational hand, and not currently running anyffing ( aside from, possibly, mircea_popescu's janissary corps ) ☟︎

BingoBoingo: I for one support baby duck memes

hanbot: sure. well, i'd want a day or two to sit with the charter & selected logs before committing, if the involved parties'll have me.

hanbot: mircea_popescu i grasp principle of something > nothing, but i'd hate to lose sight of the spirit in which tbf was founded for the sake of notoriety/sticking power alone. i'd think this is obvious and i'm by now belaboring the point...

mircea_popescu: what i said in response uses the black box as she might define it, irrespective.

asciilifeform: then i have nfi what specifically is meant re virii

mircea_popescu: i did not say "infect with trb".

hanbot: asciilifeform i'm not unsatisfied either. speaking merely to the recent questioning of tbf's purpose/existence/etc in logs.

mircea_popescu: i dunno, why isn't it spreading virii ?

a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 03:24 hanbot: asciilifeform actually in principle i very much am interested. i'm not sure i fully grasp what it's supposed to do beyond making trb available tho'...if "fruit"'s so far unsatisfactory, what's good fruit look like?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856273 << i dunno who's unsatisfied, but it aint me, i'd call another 4y exactly like prev 4y, a win ☝︎

hanbot: inasmuch as tbf clearly has a soul i'd think being true to that trumps the potential growth offered by a given gimmick. otherwise why isn't it for instance spreading virii?

mircea_popescu: i dunno!

hanbot: fwiw i don't doubt tbf as-is lacks legendary promise. i can also see argument for pushing as hard as its resources allow. i wonder: does the republic actually give two shits about e.g. sports teams? how much of this "means to an end" sorta thing is acceptable? or is it outright looked for?

mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit how. sponsor a sports team, for all i care. god knows the charter's written openly enough to not get in anyone's way who wants to do things.

hanbot: oh i know how to undo stanford university, ya just walk around campus in a Cal sweatshirt.

mircea_popescu: make the foundation undo stanford university, i'll be happy.

hanbot: i mean, is it meant to be a chute-to-l1 or simply doesn't get enough lifeform contact?

mircea_popescu: i have no idea.

hanbot: asciilifeform actually in principle i very much am interested. i'm not sure i fully grasp what it's supposed to do beyond making trb available tho'...if "fruit"'s so far unsatisfactory, what's good fruit look like? ☟︎

asciilifeform: i wonder whether hanbot is interested in taking up tbf chair .

asciilifeform: ( i expect the cure will be a 1liner, once i think of where exactly )

asciilifeform: mod6: i for one will be sad to see end of your tenure as tbf chair -- imho it was as productive as could ever be wished