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mircea_popescu: in point of fact, newton was alchemist with strong religious notions WHO ALSO DID some math and published some physics observations. but AS A RESULT and FOR THE PURPOSE of his teological and alchemical studies.
mircea_popescu: right, that being the trap. "oh, he was physicist" "how do you know this ?"
mircea_popescu: i'm making a rhetorical point, it doesn't survive so well minute analysis.
mircea_popescu: the post-clinton america, intellectually as well as factually, is only useful to orcs&niggers anymore ; and pointedly not any longer useful to people.
mircea_popescu: THEN at said moment it switched into "here kids, i have this magical method to call books into programs now". these two aren't at all the same thing ; moreover, only one is useful to actual people.
mircea_popescu: Mocky this is the core of the discussion : if it's orthogonal then you're doing it wrong, and also using the wrong symbol. the fucking point of library is exactly exposure to intelligent feedback ; NOT "a substitute way of writing code allowing you to call from books"
mircea_popescu: i like how topics of conversation in #trilema are meta-stable, one can safely discuss whatever it is they were discussing without fear the convo will morph into completely unpredictable somethingelse within a dozen lines.
mircea_popescu: having somebody there who calls you a moron is unpleasant enough ; but not having them and by consequence not having any way to guess just how far off left field you slid... well... that's actually worse.
mircea_popescu: you're supposed to share libraries with thinking people so they can point out to you the obvious stupid. this is unrelated to the "you're not supposed to fucking call this as a function, you're supposed to read it as an algorithm, understant it, and implement it yourself"
mircea_popescu: "the fewer people wielding needles they encounter, the more capable they are of living in, and building upon, their soap bubble world"
mircea_popescu: Mocky no, that's a different concern. you familiar with the "people with needles" theory ?
mircea_popescu: but "we've all moved on" & "progressed past that" (thanks hilary!) and so now... they've got the problem of prototypes etc.
mircea_popescu: back when someone last thought about this, "calling paradigm" wasn't even a problem, because you weren't supposed to fucking call it, you were supposed to READ it.
mircea_popescu: which is why the current "library" model has inherited the problem of interfacing : they're literally trying to call code from a book and it has problems
mircea_popescu: the expectation was you understand the algorithms and reimplement them, much the way V is designed to work.
mircea_popescu: Mocky he has a point, "library" is oreilly-ism. before the free/open source struggle for power, it was rather a teaching tool.
mircea_popescu: Mocky used to be called "script kiddies", the sort that "1. found this snippet online ; 2. tried it ; 3. decided it works"
mircea_popescu: yes, if out of 300mn cattle in the 50 contiguous states 287mn or so "hacked" shit together on their crapples then "99% just use".
mircea_popescu: that nobody has any such thing is simply not a bit of banal obviousness these overexcited morons ever stopped to consider.
mircea_popescu: Mocky there's this naive 1990s humanism whereby "the average mankind" will "make an encyclopedia" and "usher in a renaissance" etc. there's this hallucinatory notion of a certain kind of hipster utopian mind, whereby "people need tools for their private projects".
mircea_popescu never heard of haldane fellow, but check him out, website and everything
mircea_popescu: the shittiness of the "average human" is a large driver of shit, in those who deign to consider it.
mircea_popescu: (i expect everyone's familiar with the tale of Klein Zaches genannt Zinnober ?)
mircea_popescu: not even that, more like "oh, the lords of the empire spake to us! all kneel!!!"
mircea_popescu: everyone's fucked in the head with the whole kanzure nonsense.
mircea_popescu: gimme a day, she's in hot water over unrelated happenings atm.
mircea_popescu: mod6 can you spin me up a mp-wp instance on the shared item, see if we can counteract the illiterate part ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck would want to compile every time a web hits
mircea_popescu: where's that trilema piece with the "baby turtles would have eaten you for breakfast" thing
mircea_popescu: fuck all that shit, two generations of castrated morons thinking they have something to say to this world.
mircea_popescu: all the way to typographic nonsense in the 80s, which is why crapple even exists today.
mircea_popescu: it was an item continuously, since the days of chet tryina get 3 different shit packages to work by excruciating them on a wide wooden plank
mircea_popescu: then you're stuck maintaining a whole "it department", the idiotic airs of "superiority" by the dweebs involved y compris, because gotta interface all that junk.
mircea_popescu: and slides in under the "who'd pull a stink over 0.85%"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'd be surprised what % of trumpeted "great soviet financial coups" are exactly of the substance and consistency of forum investors' victories.
mircea_popescu: kinda in the manner windows-only interface gvies away the george supran-style "scientists", the kind that researches community consensuses.
mircea_popescu: stuff to do in the "den" for the sort of retard who can't figure out by looking whether charger cord reaches the socket or not, gotta try it out
mircea_popescu: if you think of it as a potentials map, suddenly it becomes evident : large cancerous accretion mass drives all other things closer together
mircea_popescu: it HAS to be "strange" and "weird", otherwise can't make it in the ocean of "woke" shit.
mircea_popescu: this is where "homeopathic" ended up : "want some toothpaste without mint, sugar or fluoride ? aaaaaahahahah, here you go."
mircea_popescu: hence whatever, orthodox jews, "we wear weird hair AND OUR FOODSTUFFS ARE EDIBLE"
mircea_popescu: hence mormons, "we belive in weird shit, bless our underwear ~~~AND DON'T TOLERATE ANNOYING WOMEN~~~".
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this is how things go in lulzistan : "nutty" ideologies that survive do so because pick up the practical slack of soviet idiocy.
mircea_popescu: try bilka. sounds lulzy, but it's ok bulgarian "homeopathic" producer.
mircea_popescu: then idiots wanna talk about "what'd millionaires do with their time". certaintly, certainly not this, taking apart the heart of one's enemies so not on the list.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i get to read, you realise, the A papers of contemporary valedictorians and whatnot. the incas' brightest and bravest, career women to the last soul and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: "why should anyone have to notice 69's but a 7 under 70"
mircea_popescu: "if everything's uncomputably large then therefore i no longer have to be able to say 7 * 69 = 483 within a second or so"