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mircea_popescu: none of that last century "by god i will dig this mountain up and reshape it as a pineapple" piss and vinegar feelin' left.
mircea_popescu: buterin was circling bitcoin (as an outsider) a coupla years before you showed up. where's his millions ?
mircea_popescu: trusfulness, as it were.
asciilifeform: re 'trust', oblig orlol, ' Trust is transactional: a person needs a reason to trust you, and you need a reason to trust that person. There is, however, such a quality as trustfulness: this is the property of small children, tame animals and, most unfortunately for them, many regular, salt-of-the-earth, mainstream Americans. It is of negative survival value in the context of financial collapse. It is being exhibited for all to see by
ben_vulpes: wow cool 2 assignments in as many seconds
mircea_popescu: for instance, everyone thinks of theymos as "tardstalk owner", except that forum was made by sirius ; and was quite acceptable before it went to shit.
phf: but so that it's not just noise, here's one thing that i used as a jumping point, http://foldr.org/~michaelw/log/programming/lisp/diff-sexp there's also a cmu archive of differs, including a working common lisp diff implementation (with a different output though) http://www-cgi.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/lisp/code/tools/src_cmp/0.html
mircea_popescu: most of the honest (as oposed to gavinous) people originally involved with the project went away quietly.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 21:46 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579050 << "image" as in "lisp image"? the reason i ask is because reindenting blocks of code for a multiple-value-bind makes unnecessary patch noise.
asciilifeform: i was about to phrase it as 'output of v transformation must always remain obvious to kindergartener' but mircea_popescu has it.
mircea_popescu: "my mom as i knew her died the moment she hooked up with her old associates and went back to stripping."
mircea_popescu: phf nevertheless, it does say "AS WE KNOW IT". clearly it's a knowledge problem not a being problem neh.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 14:50 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578953 << just fyi, while you can diff an intermediate ~state~ of an image as a sexp, common lisp's input is a ~character stream~. builtin dispatch ~mostly~ operates on forms (like #p #. (concatenate 'string "foo" "bar")), but not always, like #\; comment reads till end of line.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579050 << "image" as in "lisp image"? the reason i ask is because reindenting blocks of code for a multiple-value-bind makes unnecessary patch noise. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is almost same as a photo i posted from under where i sit.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcUR6y6Kmkk << just as short ; much better music.
mircea_popescu: because as it is commonly the case, the only people who should still be here are the ones who died already.
mircea_popescu: whereas my intelligence is defined very much in low bio terms, as an antonym to sluggishness. entirely to how you score "lively" colts and puppies.
phf: right, the healers in the comments are basically happy inmates, telling her that everything's going to be ok as long as she sticks to prescribed pill regiment
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski maybe they were confused as to how "kid lick ton" translates into chinese ?
mircea_popescu: THEY WONT FUCKING YIELD. exactly 0 approach for the actual issues involved, no you can't own your body, no you can't want actualities ; please consider THIS approach to a purely symbolic relationship with reality. oh, "imagining yourself as a 3yo" won't do it for you ? ok, ok, there's other layers of indirection available! pick one! YOU MUST PICK ONE!
mircea_popescu: glod, evidently cognate, is "dirt" in romanian. not so much as the generative mud but as unwelcome dirt.
mircea_popescu: and as per the "Won't fucking yield" disbelief, they'll go to their shallow grave kicking and screaming about how great the reich is and how black women matter or some dorkage.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the us still pretends it doesn't know who or what the icbc is, as discussed last year and etc
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578953 << just fyi, while you can diff an intermediate ~state~ of an image as a sexp, common lisp's input is a ~character stream~. builtin dispatch ~mostly~ operates on forms (like #p #. (concatenate 'string "foo" "bar")), but not always, like #\; comment reads till end of line. ☝︎☟︎
Framedragger: i've joined about the time you asked about ppusd, getting reminded via nostalgia. there was no interaction as of yet :p
Framedragger: (well, 'alive' as in there are nyms logged in.)
jurov: that everything must be categorized as forbidden or allowed
asciilifeform: and everybody knows there is no such beast as genderless cat !!
mircea_popescu: which is the deep reason for a major redistribution of research resources from other fashionable causes to cancer in thepast decade, as cartman aptly observed.
mircea_popescu: since recently dna understanding improved significantly, and the workings of the immune system, esp in its binding functions, became more understood ; and since complex molecule synthesis muchly developed as well, a universal cure for cancer based on the principle of getting alpha-amanitin bound to a specific tumour cell seeking protein seems altogether very feasible.
asciilifeform: what, in the eyes of mircea_popescu , would count as 'serious result' in subj field ??
mircea_popescu: as per the "man breaks, horse splashes" theorem.
asciilifeform: anthill, if said to optimize for something (and this is at least mildly sinful, somewhat like describing the operation of a submarine as 'swimming') optimizes for energy/food ROI.
mircea_popescu: contradicts my naive expectations as to what "optimization" is.
mircea_popescu: it works as a retrospective, "looking at this anthill, it becomes evident it mostly managed to feed itself historically". yes. so... what.
mircea_popescu: "i've never seen anything remotely as annoying as prolog, with the notable exception of makefiles, running on top of a wonderful inference engine of their own" << ahaha!
asciilifeform: ( likewise the workings of, e.g., a FET, are quite different from what digital engineer learns in school, and ~nobody designs ~anything using the actual equations as understood by maxwell et al )
asciilifeform: hell, we don't even have a working ornithopter, and the problem is, what, 800+ yrs old as posed.
asciilifeform: 'The error is that control interfaces must not be intelligent. Briefly, intelligent user interfaces should be limited to applications in which the user does not expect to control the behavior of the product. If the product is used as a tool, its interface should be as unintelligent as possible. Stupid is predictable; predictable is learnable; learnable is usable.'
mircea_popescu: as the idea is to make ai not a"i". THAT we already have.
mircea_popescu: but on the other side of the coin, "As you probably already know, but my trademark thoroughness still obliges me to say, AI stands for "Artificial Intelligence" and comes in two flavors, "deterministic" (like minmax) and "statistical" (like SVM). The combined efforts of various researches lead to an important breakthrough in this field, known to meteorologists as "the AI winter". This is the season when you can't get any VC m
mircea_popescu: "kids will virtual currency too" ? what is this, illiterate indians will preet as well ?
phf: oh yeah, of course i remember it as "everyone was children", but there was a cutoff point. "younger brother" sort of thing
asciilifeform: in so far as heathens go, this one is worth writing to imho
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: interestingly, in so far as that type of joint goes, pedopizza is imho pretty good. i guess small chillunz make good pizza topping
mircea_popescu: plenty of those here as well.
mircea_popescu: as in, orcs flooded new york ; bereft of any means to do anything ; ended up in harlem.
asciilifeform: why was new york 'compacted' as it was? it isn't as if there were no room to 'flatten' it
a111: Logged on 2016-10-24 16:26 mircea_popescu: "Avoid easy selections, such as qwerty or password. If you want to pick an easy-to-remember but somewhat unique password, consider a variation of a word, such as a1rPl4nE for airplane."
mircea_popescu: game accounts from what i currently known are compromised through 1) "dude used password as a password", perhaps with debian-strengtheners as per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-24#1558621 and 2) drive-by flash / activex / webshit exploit. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( it is not clear to me that rsa-abused-as-symmetriccipher is in any way worse than to use the idiot usg ciphers. )
mircea_popescu: same principle as bitcoin wallet.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; still not entirely convinced as to WHAT to use to encrypt the eulora-privkey with.
asciilifeform: wtf is even the point of a salt if it is kept in the same place as the hash
Framedragger: hmh. i guess it counts as "key verification" then. hm
mircea_popescu: you see this as an argument against bars ?
trinque: as far as the lying wire is concerned, that's solved by a different gadget ☟︎
Framedragger: oh, sure, i understand that the scheme as currently implemented *actually works* :p
mircea_popescu: not only is it done, and done tons, contrary to his "never" : but it is eminently administrable and accountable, as i just proved.
mircea_popescu: seems this is exactly defined as "get X's key from Y you trust". observe :
mircea_popescu: diana_coman that part, of "who", is kinda baked in the design as it is, because of the .seals
asciilifeform: as described in his reply
phf: this happens to squats all the time, but i don't think that the fatalities are as high in civilized world, because people tend to understand what they get into when they squat. sucks, because it's likely to make getting warehouses for legitimate use trickier in the future
phf: ben_vulpes: if you were to use bind everywhere you can use it (e.g. as a replacement for let, destructuring-bind) your code is going to look sufficiently different that it's not clear if you're even programming in common lisp at that point. makes the result less readable for other cl programmers, and code becomes harder to future proof. the tradeoff is generally seen as not worth it (too intrusive for little payoff)
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-06#1578252 << as long as they fit into the head (like alexandria), fine for me. why are you asking? ☝︎
Framedragger: (the 79.98.25.168 pop is interesting tho, as some of these hosting-company-i-use boxen get provisioned with everything installed, and i'm sure as fuck that "not all" customers regen ssh host keys. so there may be more pops, or other interesting goodness. probably the whole /16 is worthy of getting properly port-scanned, lots of broken stuff there i'm sure - if anyone has time etc)
mircea_popescu: and they always package "sid" (ie, devel) as opposed to stable
Framedragger: (DM as in twitter)
mircea_popescu: why does he figure himself as a "perfect user" i have nfi - before a business comms system works for you, YOU GOTTA HAVE A BUSINESS.
trinque: as I pondered the thing it also brought from the dark recesses of my mind the "semantic web"
asciilifeform: in other not-quite-noose, asciilifeform got a small thermovisor as bday gift, and it sorta worx, e.g., http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/thermo_shitter.jpg << shitter tank water clearly visible; http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/thermo_taps.jpg << hot vs cold taps
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-05#1577753 << both of'em, mikrotik 'RouterOS v6.35.2' >> i now say let's pronounce as in 'necrotic'. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, when i say "don't have these problems but others" i specifically mean as evident in sexual behaviour (cue that "scandal" when sarkozy took some random woman to random event and the london-based journo-hos had a collective aneurism and kept blathering about how they'll bus supporters over)
mircea_popescu: the simple notion that i shall read the string X as /y" rather than /z" because the entity labeled X "knows how their name is spelled", for instance, is exactly of the nature of "you must include X in your item because Y law" ; or of the "sexual harassment" ; or of ALL OTHER THINGS.
mircea_popescu: once there's a "king", in the english tradition, who can do patently idiotic stuff such as require "bonded warehouses" (look it up) and "control trade" (please, do look it up) then "property" of a sort emerges. by contrast, in dutch world, where no such king and no such layered idiocy thereby, also property. but substantially different property.
mircea_popescu: i mean i've been toying with it in pieces such as "what's the tmsr gdp", which is very much exactly the same thing as discussion here, but anwyay.
asciilifeform: you get the cost of mircea_popescu's dinner. as per the thread. where 'idiot rube cannot buy mircea_popescu's dinner, prepared by enthusiastic harem, for any moneys'
mircea_popescu: "the place where you drink" or "the public house" aka "brothel", ie, the place where disorderly (as per anglican/puritan definitions of order) is tolerated, ie, a tolerance house ?
mircea_popescu: in the russian world, where drunks do exist, but the drinking place (which is NOT a pub, even if translated as such because what you gonna do) is supported by a social conventionthat has nothing to do with drunkedness
mircea_popescu: in the english world, where drunks and pubs exist, and the observation re pubs existing because drunks, not because sunday drinkers holds, there are a number of objects defined, such as the fact that a pub is really a public house (which is relevant if for instance you wonder why it should need or want a permit to exist).
mircea_popescu: it could be cpu costs a dime or a testicle, the issue of price is ulterior in this discussion, makes about as much sense as "the utilty of the sun"
asciilifeform: 'better culture' does not even have to be 'cpu costs as boeing'. can be, e.g., 'cpu costs as cessna'
asciilifeform: and as for asciilifeform , he had moar phun on sov 'mk-61' programmable calc, with ~100 bytes of volatile memory, than on pretty much anything since.
mircea_popescu: you skipped the good part, which is : "If you are indeed a chip maker, this is when you find out why fabless chip companies are worth so much more than the equally fabless vendors of "IPs" such as CPUs and DRAM controllers.".
asciilifeform: btw the 'array of fpgas' thing is getting made, as soon as i'm satisfied that lattice 'ice' is ~actually~ reversed. and not simply 'kicad'-ed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not a matter of "won't run". your gf runs in the bedroom just as well as woman runs in gangbang party.
phf: also depends if we're still putting out massive interdependent designs, as opposed to some modular architectures like greenarrays or scheme81 or
mircea_popescu: be that as it may, the conceptual item solves two major open questions here in tmsr forum : a) "why is this proggy 100mb ?!?" "because it has 100mn datapoints in the ai massager, let it be" ; b) "why does this proggy want to call home ?" "because whenever you accept a design and put it in production, all other installations want to review the datapoint, it's valuable."
asciilifeform: ('deepblue scan' does not mean 'human committee played'... means that the playing was done the same way as asciilifeform does pcb autorouting.)
mircea_popescu: so you know, "autorouting" is "a small matter" and "a solved problem" except in reality it's exactly something to be solved via "artificial intelligence" as understood today, ie, mega-matrix of mostly 0 parameter running a markov process.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, very far away, 'Autodesk will stop the sale of perpetual licences of all its software on January 31st, 2017. The purchase of new licences by both new and existing customers will only be available by subscription after that date. ... Why is Autodesk transitioning to subscription licences? Subscription licences offer customers a lower entry price, greater choice of tools and the ability to pay-as-you-go. With its shift a ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'engine crackpots' such as they are found today, typically have not even heard of such a thing as calorimeter, because it is not sold in 'home despot'
mircea_popescu: as in do you know where to drill
mircea_popescu: walter the scheme here proposed is that a project (linuxbios) which was useful on account of actually having drivers for extant hardware was killed by hardware maker conspiracy. on its now useless ruins, as it's dead, an idiot with a "sexual identity" political agenda tried to build a grassroot activism thing called libreboot ; and some unrelated packrats with a penchant for software try to build a cluttered warehouse called
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was as-found.
asciilifeform: walter: it is known as 'coreboot' today
asciilifeform: if you remove 'portage', you have, magic!111, working gentoo. but it is then ~same as just generic linux a la my pogo build.
mircea_popescu: as in, you can replace their fw with your own
mircea_popescu: (alf would have liked this one, the rats live so closely packed they have cultural constructs re intramural participation in sexual congress - the woman is offended but subverts it as normalcy. OF FUCKING COURSE the "next door neighbour" would play music to go with our intimate discussions. this is soviet america and the walls are thin!)