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a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 19:30 diana_coman: shrysr: one way to think of it is "strength of evidence on which I'm basing this evaluation"; as such, it's not some set amount of time or such purely mechanical measure; and moreover there is no direct reciprocity as interactions are never perfectly symmetrical like that.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925257 << the ~other~ way to look at it is, "if this person defaults my remedy is that im out of the whole thing", which is not an untenable stance, esp for knights ☝︎
asciilifeform: ended up that yes needs, simply to match the performance of ~orig~ genesis ver.
asciilifeform: orig. thought, like idjit, that it wouldn't even need the cache from the 2nd patch
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 18:41 asciilifeform: in other noose, 'sse' is... a scam! the 'simd' variant of tlb is actually ~slower~ (at least on my amd 2393se) !!
asciilifeform: presently asciilifeform suspects that 'sseism' was a straight 'upgrade scam', i.e. trick to make folx throw out old irons when really 0 justification
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the extra coad req'd to keep the sseism regs properly filled, entirely wipes out whatever cost saved by using the parallel 16byte searcher.
mp_en_viaje: i've made the sorta call in two minutes ; people occasionally do, especially across the gender gap. whole human brain is optimized precisely and specifically to make this sort of call in the shortest time possible, there's no other problem besides, perhaps, object tracking that we're as good at.
mp_en_viaje: shrysr, it's ~your~ estimation, you're the one that's supposed to know. in principle it could be said it's remarkable you're so firmly convinced in a coupla weeks ; but it could not be said it isn't possible.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i always suspected that 'fancy' x86 instrs were a sham (i.e. take just about as long, cuz really microcoded, as the classical alternative )
diana_coman: o.O that's some... interesting result there asciilifeform
lobbesbot: mp_en_viaje: The operation succeeded.
mp_en_viaje: !Q later tell nicoleci http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4Ug9B/?raw=true
diana_coman: shrysr: one way to think of it is "strength of evidence on which I'm basing this evaluation"; as such, it's not some set amount of time or such purely mechanical measure; and moreover there is no direct reciprocity as interactions are never perfectly symmetrical like that. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje et al : posted, for future walkers of this minefield.
BingoBoingo: shrysr: Well, it depends. diana_coman does have a long history of public performance you could be rating off of. It could also be the case that down the line you recalibrate your scale.
shrysr: BingoBoingo: re experience - would that also imply that it was 'short sighted' to rate diana_coman 10, after knowing her a couple of weeks, irrespective of the impact of her discussions ?
lobbes: diana_coman: I'll do some pencil-to-paper planning today and will try to have an educated estimate out by tonight (roughly 8hrs from now)
BingoBoingo: Re: local politics: "Van a querer etiquetarnos, pero cuantas más etiquetas nos pongan más orgullosamente blancos nos ponemos" << "orgullosamente blanco" is a thing people can be here
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 12:29 mp_en_viaje: if i rate A +3 and B+5, i communicate one same thing and one different thing : a) the similar thing is, a positive, for both. the different thing is, that one's less likely to change.
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925193 why should one be less likely to change? ☝︎
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'sse' is... a scam! the 'simd' variant of tlb is actually ~slower~ (at least on my amd 2393se) !! ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 12:31 mp_en_viaje: shrysr, is this because you did not see the article before, or is it because it "didn't make sense" and so discarded ?
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925199 thank you for explanation. I had seen your article earlier, but did not finish reading it, and did not refer to it in writing the post. However, I am revisiting the WoT and will revert with a better summary. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: unsurprising ; pythonisms tend to consist of http://ossasepia.com/2019/06/18/euloran-blus-and-boos/ sorta useless scribble.
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform was never able to get 'pip' to work at all ! ( tried many times when was writing phuctor )
mp_en_viaje: do they even have a channel ?
mp_en_viaje: maybe somebody should drop a line to those pip schmucks, "here
diana_coman: lobbes: fine but what's your actual estimate on this something fresh off of the republican logbot tree?
lobbes: So, I want to apologize to diana_coman personally for this delay. Rest assured I am on the case
lobbes: And second; I would bet a lot of money that it will take me LESS time to simply code something fresh off of the republican logbot tree, then to deconstruct this frankenstein monster I created 4 years ago.
lobbes: Chiefly because in order to even install the heathen python coad, you need to first install and use "pip", which is dubious in its own right (see their 'mandatory code of conduct' for starters: https://www.pypa.io/en/latest/code-of-conduct/)
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 08:04 diana_coman: at least local log still works and at some point, it'll see the light of public I suppose
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925158 << Just to update: I've spent yesterday and the first half of today re-digging into the #eulora logotron coad, and I have come to the conclusion that I just want to burn it all and start over. (i.e. *I* don't even want to use it anymore) ☝︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-are-drug-companies-hiding-negative-studies-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Are Drug Companies Hiding Negative Studies? Adnotated.
asciilifeform: ( worx on all boxen that have 'sse2'. 2x faster , in principle, where 'sse3' but i haven't any )
asciilifeform: it's 1 of those 'wtf didn't think of this before' items, will post.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 12:08 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other mega discoveries nobody hears about, https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.joc.8b00336 << total kinetic/thermodinamic control discovered in hexafluoro-2-butyne reaction with bis-furyl dienes
asciilifeform: but in other strange, asciilifeform was just about to shelve the 'm' thing when realized how to do tlb lookup in o(1) ☝︎
asciilifeform: there was defo thread in the logs, where mp_en_viaje elaborated on subj. but for some reason cannot find in o(1)
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2014/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/ << sadly not in there.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc this was the 'cancerous fags' piece
mp_en_viaje: sooo... anyone recall this years-old trilema article wherein the dilemma of the scumbag was discussed -- either say something that's already been said a trillion times and not stand out, or else say something for the reason that it wasn't said before, and stand out.
asciilifeform sweated through 2y of organikism but not had occasion to use in battlefield.
asciilifeform: diels-alder is how one makes gabriel_laddel fodder, tho, rather than strained nitrogens lol
mp_en_viaje: somebody's gotta make all the bombs and things, what can i say.
asciilifeform: i'ma guess they were looking for 'thermodynamics -- proposes, kinetics -- disposes' lol
mp_en_viaje: fucking chemistry textbook all in one.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: how didja dig this up ?
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 12:08 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other mega discoveries nobody hears about, https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.joc.8b00336 << total kinetic/thermodinamic control discovered in hexafluoro-2-butyne reaction with bis-furyl dienes
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925178 << quite interesting on several levels. (not only the find per se, but that it actually includes 300pg of raw spectra, holyfuq) ☝︎
bvt: hi. i'm back from my travel (incidentally, also from ukraine, though not kyiv)
mp_en_viaje: thanks god hilary clinton gave these morons their moron rights, wtf would the pre-existing world have done without their useless cuntheads.
mp_en_viaje: fancy that wonder, http://trilema.com/2015/the-pawnbroker/ came out 1964, nazi camp forced prostitution central thematic device.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in fucktarded wikipedia, "The subject of forced prostitution in the camps was alluded to in survivors' memoirs at least as early as 1972, when the first edition of Heinz Heger's book[5] was published. However, the subject remained largely taboo in studies of Nazism until the mid-1990s, when new publications by female researchers broke the silence."
mp_en_viaje: "Does the rating matter? No. You can rate anybody, and the ratings represent your ‘social graph’. Somebody with poor ratings from many different people should probably be treated with some caution, but even so these ratings cannot be used to ‘judge’ anybody in any meaningful or profound manner." << this in particular is utter fucking nonsense.
mp_en_viaje: shrysr, is this because you did not see the article before, or is it because it "didn't make sense" and so discarded ? ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: went through an entire article without reference to http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ which is fucken bizarre.
mp_en_viaje: adding them, dividing them, etcetera, is necessarily meaningless an activity, like adding any other letters.
mp_en_viaje: this is ~one~ of the senses in which deedbot ratings, though saved as numeric, ARE NOT NUMBERS.
diana_coman: that seems to be the hardest part for people to get; in fairness the actual meaning attached to a rating is up to the one giving the rating so ...
mp_en_viaje: if i rate A +3 and B+5, i communicate one same thing and one different thing : a) the similar thing is, a positive, for both. the different thing is, that one's less likely to change. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: can tell a certainty)
mp_en_viaje: if i rate someone -10, i thereby communicate two different things : a) a negative and b) how likely do i deem this to be my final appraisal (10 out of 10, ie as far as i
mp_en_viaje: shrysr, i suspect you misunderstand the meaning of the numbers.
diana_coman: not a bad thing either
mp_en_viaje: is the guy in here ?
mp_en_viaje: kinda also illustrates the problem with "how did i not notice " / "was right there under nose" etc -- yes, was. in a field so huge fulla haystacks so vast...
diana_coman: it's probably "too much to dive in" for any "journalist", lolz
mp_en_viaje: previously purely theoretic item
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other mega discoveries nobody hears about, https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.joc.8b00336 << total kinetic/thermodinamic control discovered in hexafluoro-2-butyne reaction with bis-furyl dienes ☟︎☟︎
diana_coman: lolz, not with ukrainian girls as such; but I knew girls/environments precisely like that
mp_en_viaje: as in, you've had the same experience with ukrainian girls ?!
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 08:31 mp_en_viaje: ~none of the (very eager, in a dedicated and as-perceived-moral-obligation sense) sluts i've talked to would consider a relationship with a local, or even a rusophone, of any kind ; NOR DO THEY THINK THIS IS AT ALL IMPORTANT.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925167 - this part has this quality of "very real" for lack of how to better put it. ☝︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-are-certain-behaviors-and-jobs-more-masculine-and-out-of-our-control-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Are Certain Behaviors -- And Jobs -- More Masculine? And Out Of Our Control? Adnotated.
mp_en_viaje: "even talking to them [about sex and such things] sounds stupid/vulgar" were exact quotes.
mp_en_viaje: local dorks had even their dorkitude stolen from them.
mp_en_viaje: ~none of the (very eager, in a dedicated and as-perceived-moral-obligation sense) sluts i've talked to would consider a relationship with a local, or even a rusophone, of any kind ; NOR DO THEY THINK THIS IS AT ALL IMPORTANT. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: apparently the best thing for quality of life is absence of any consideration for human rights, complete corruption of the government and culturally embedded, societally recognized male inferiority.
mp_en_viaje: i currently know of no place in allegedly civilised world where this is quite so readily available.
mp_en_viaje: but anyway, re the kiev : it is REALLY GREAT to sit down in nice restaurant, order soup & fillet mignon and then leisurely coffee starting at... 3 in the morning.
mp_en_viaje: pai cine are, are, si cine n-are citeodata are, cite-odata n-are. sa ti-o zic si-n engleza ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: that derpy slutyev sounds like a umbla cu pula vapsita, lol
diana_coman: at least local log still works and at some point, it'll see the light of public I suppose ☟︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/derpy-sluttyev-or-how-shall-i-call-this/ << Trilema -- Derpy Sluttyev, or how shall I call this...
dorion: trinque thank you, Sir.
trinque: dorion: give it another try for me?
mp_en_viaje: but no, the querstion is not nor ever could be "why does lord prefer republican process over non-republican process", because of the very definitions of terms. if he doesn't prefer republican process he isn't a lord, irrespective what any text anywhere might be misleadingly stating ; and in any case any text anywhere will be brought into allignment with this theory sooner or later.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-29 23:35 mircea_popescu: but as far as the foundation is concerned -- if all it does (ALL IT DOES!!!) is stand up to tell me "oh, we can't follow the keccak because reasons" ima put an end to it in short order.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 17:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, maybe your thread. my thread was re "are we fucking idiots ?! we have a foundation that wants to publish statements of the nothing as its only output, we have a bunch of smart people not helping our own industry avoid pitfals, and in this vein forever"
mp_en_viaje: and yes we should be doing this like yesterday or so. we should have been doing it ike yesterday or so, hence eg http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868413 or http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855672 etc. ☝︎☝︎
mp_en_viaje: as far as your practical example : do not genesis parts ; include the 12 things in yoru genersis if they are needed. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: spyked, my two "objections", as i'm sure you noticed, tend towards a broad "omfg, bad habits" sorta something. ☟︎
asciilifeform: me neither. and pretty handy. ( if it knew how to eat gnat, would be even handier )
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, interesting, dun think i ever saw that before.
BingoBoingo: In local news, leaks on how the leftist sausage is made http://archive.is/vepPr
lobbes off to buy a desk and a chair so as to get that #eulora logotron coad published. bbl
lobbes: in other news, I spent a good 4 hours last night chatting with this new girly whose arms actually "grow from the right organ", as alf is fond of saying. It was a fucking pleasure for a change. Gonna try to introduce her to the logs and see if it takes.
lobbes: Gooood morning #trilema. Coming live from the new fortress de lobbes. So peaceful I can hear myself think again