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mp_en_viaje: pretty eastern hounds, very happy with that shot. oodles of tension in repose.
asciilifeform: i defo recall this pic (but how to find!)
mp_en_viaje: in other #help, anyone recall which the fuck trilema article did i put the chicks reading while flat on belly on old style carpet, legs in perfect splits ?
BingoBoingo: Hence their normal focus on absent "recursos humanos" and squandered "recursos naturales"
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 06:33 mp_en_viaje: this is SO fucking typical argentine, 100% pretense of a shocking livresque degree. it's like pantsuited hilarity declaring "if we continue with trump we'll be left without subtility even". dude, you're fucking ustards, what the fuck.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925394 << They built their culture around the verb "faltar", of course Argentines are going to pretend to have and have had things they are without ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 09:57 mp_en_viaje: (bubico reference for the rotaku club)
asciilifeform: anyway i think this covers the subj. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( radix table still would blow cache )
asciilifeform: for extra pedanticism, the tag aint actually 3 bytes, but 20 bits.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-25 17:30 asciilifeform: ... and yes there is actually a standard. even sold as dead tree b00k, called 'see mips run'
asciilifeform: for moar re this & related, see the b00k. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt: 1980s mipsen not only crashed, but would actually ~smoke~, if 2 identical tags! they had ultra-simplistic dual-ported sram as the table, would result in short circuit ! )
asciilifeform: 1 observation : given that the tags ~must~ be unique (an iron mips will actually hard-crash if you manage to -- it aint easy -- stuff 2 entries 2/ identical tags into the table) it may be possible to use some variant of crc as 'hash' for 'hash table' or similar (catch is, it gotta be ~fast~. as in, coupla instructions at most.)
asciilifeform: the solutions i tried, were : plain iterative search ; and the simd thing. both sucked.
asciilifeform: 1 naive solution i considered, was radix search, but with straight 3byte index, that's a 2^24-entry (4bit ea, i.e. index, so weights 1MB) table, would blow the pc cache to hell.
asciilifeform: writes to this structure have to be as fast as reads, as any time that a query results in 'not found', the table is written (typically one of the entries is replaced at ~random with a matching one, by the os)
asciilifeform: you have at most 16 entries, each of which has a 'tag' (3 bytes) that must match the query's tag .
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 00:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925256 << btw found shortly after posting that the 1-slot cache is not functional in the given patch. might fix, at some pt, but currently finding difficult to justify putting moar sweat into beating of the dead horse
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925370 << i oughta formalize the maffs problem , on the off chance that a log reader might want to attempt it via some oddball method (e.g. radix search) : ☝︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-arent-two-antipsychotics-better-than-one-the-most-important-article-on-psychiatry-part-3-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Aren't Two Antipsychotics Better Than One? The Most Important Article on Psychiatry, Part 3. Adnotated.
asciilifeform: arguably ffa series is moar primarily a handbook of how to build proper 'wide' arithmetizer, than pc proggy.
asciilifeform: but ordinary 32-bit slow micro ~also~ wins, if not in speed, but in 'knowing wtf is in the box' param.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-01 21:09 asciilifeform: rather, a standard, e.g., verilog mips, with the registers extended to 8192b.
asciilifeform: iirc we had at least 1 thread re fact that pc is ~monstrously~ inefficient in re rsa, and even very simple custom ic, on batteries would massively win over 'bleeding edge' x86 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( on pc, in addition to 'unix leaky' and other boobytraps, also gotta contend with not knowing what the fuck the cpu does internally in re constant-time )
asciilifeform: this kinda thing is where fab capability would be +9000 handy. but even without it, still doable, imho.
asciilifeform: even if the 4096bit modexp that's 2sec on pc, is 200sec on battery-powered micro, still imho entirely usable.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: ftr asciilifeform is of same position on 'where to rsa' as in 2013 -- ideally get it the hell off the pc.
asciilifeform: at 1 time i soldered 1 in, manually, but it was pretty cavernous lappy
asciilifeform: the gnarly bit is that attaching fg to lappy is inconvenient, given the current form factor.
asciilifeform: no conceivable reason why it'd have to be laptop-sized. this being said, i'd rather use lappy with msdos peh than unix, for cipheration/signing.
mp_en_viaje: has to be MUCH smaller and convenient shaped to use own box
mp_en_viaje: my idea is that if laptop sized, ima use a laptop
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: atm folx use entire lappies (iirc there's a mp photo w/ same) for the job. so even the pictured item would be substantial improvement re portability.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 13:59 asciilifeform: ( orc 'nationalist' wanks tend to follow language map, near as i can tell. )
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925475 << quite. but they're so deeply identical culturally speaking, it beggars beief. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 13:57 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925396 << by some accounts, this disease killed even crowned heads ( ceausescu ) , and saharov, and buncha other 'names' , large an' small , ( an' many yrs ago almost killed asciilifeform , who did not come from factory with mp's complete immunity ) and fuck knows whom else
mp_en_viaje: that'd be about the largest size practicable imo.
asciilifeform: dun have to be much bigger than fg per se, really. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: kinda too big
asciilifeform: sorta like what we were orig wanting to build prior to fg.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: why transmit the key over the (potentially loud) serial ? rsa in the box.
mp_en_viaje: but yes, this will need more talk ; looks like it's getting towards being mature enough where actual pgp usage is contemplatable.
mp_en_viaje: i believe it's the correct approach, have fixed-size repeaters, like so : 1. plug into FG, will load up a 4kb chunk of random ; 2. unplug, it repeats the chunk permanently while powered.
asciilifeform: i.e. variant where the end of the pipe is a device running also peh , talking over r232.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: peh was specifically designed to work cleanly with ~this~ variant also. (hence 'cutout' mechanism)
asciilifeform: i did expect that folx would ask for this. there aint afaik a portable way of doing it, however, will require ugly c imports.
mp_en_viaje: alternatively, what we could do, is "fg"-like that always plays same sequence over and over. then item could be ~republican key.
asciilifeform: ( 'build in' would require explicitly calling the keyboard, also, a la gpg, rather than 'pw from stdin', tape is already coming from stdin )
mp_en_viaje: and this reduces to pw and symcipher
mp_en_viaje: the "proper iron" will STILL need an activation, it can't jus tbe the magic rock of sluttery, serving all who hold it in hand.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it is entirely possible to build-in. this doesn't really solve 'unix is leaky' tho.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 13:49 asciilifeform: given that 'peh' eats tape from stdio (this is by design, so that can 'chain' tapes) the only practical solution to symmetricizing seekritz kept on disk, afaik, is commandline 'serpent' util or similar.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 07:00 mp_en_viaje: the principal problem of manhood is then how to negotiate aggressivity and violence, between the hammer of the winds of doom
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 12:31 mp_en_viaje: how the fuck does this work can't be explained, but -- those dudes have tip top internet, no restaurants, here GREAT restaurant scene, shitty interwebs... wtf
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925458 << afaik it is at least partially a 'winds blowing down towers' problem : in ukristan, isps owned by competing mobs routinely cut one another's wires ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 11:43 diana_coman: oh, lemme guess re kiev - nobody ever actually cleared the drains since... USSR?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925437 << i suspect that autos parked on sidewalk (endemic in orcistans where 'hey nao you can borrow to buy merc' , saw in bucharest same) collapsed the drains. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 13:48 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925432 << needs keccak to actually rsa 'in anger', picked this up nao that asciilifeform returned from awol (where wrote 4l ln of ultimately failed asm experiment 'm') . but also thought about this point prior, will elaborate :
asciilifeform: sorta why gluing lang-incompatible orcistans generally requires an external conqueror (ru, austrians, turks, ..) who impose yet third lang
asciilifeform: ( orc 'nationalist' wanks tend to follow language map, near as i can tell. ) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 11:44 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, 100% bucharest/timisoara/what have you. ukraina 100% greater-romania, nfi why they didn't simply join
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925439 << the 'transnistria' story illustrates 'why not joined'. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 06:37 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925366 << my default expectation, for all these cases, is that they're involved in a toxic cvasi-D/s relationship with a bratty princess that they worship (as per the toxic education they received from that stupid, worthelss whore of their mother). the girl pushes them and pushes them to either die or man up and put her on her knees as she needs and wants to be ; and they die, a slow, lengthy, p
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925396 << by some accounts, this disease killed even crowned heads ( ceausescu ) , and saharov, and buncha other 'names' , large an' small , ( an' many yrs ago almost killed asciilifeform , who did not come from factory with mp's complete immunity ) and fuck knows whom else ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i wrote one, but it needs a bit of polish. imho it may be an unhealthy thing, though, gold standard for 'secrets kept unattended' would be a dedicated iron, rather than 'type in passphrase into this linux proggy, and 'faith-based' count on the os not to stow the keystrokes somewhere'
asciilifeform: given that 'peh' eats tape from stdio (this is by design, so that can 'chain' tapes) the only practical solution to symmetricizing seekritz kept on disk, afaik, is commandline 'serpent' util or similar. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 11:16 mp_en_viaje: re "drop shitty gpg" : the one remaining issue is key bootstrapping. to use peh instead of gpg one can't just keep plaintext rsa privkeys ; but peh has no built-in symmcipher either, so wut do.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925432 << needs keccak to actually rsa 'in anger', picked this up nao that asciilifeform returned from awol (where wrote 4l ln of ultimately failed asm experiment 'm') . but also thought about this point prior, will elaborate : ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 07:30 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925389 << self-correcting problem, if noobs keep showing up they'll flag it for you lol
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 07:13 mp_en_viaje: the fundamental difference being that naggum wrote a lot and phf avoided expressing self like you'd avoid fucking shambling old crackwhores in a leprosorium ; on which basis i'd daresay "nah, it'd be too much like expressing himself".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925415 << this is a point, fella was for some reason unable to bring himself to write... ☝︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/deluge-in-kiev-and-other-excess-stories/ << Trilema -- Deluge in Kiev, and other excess stories.
mp_en_viaje: how the fuck does this work can't be explained, but -- those dudes have tip top internet, no restaurants, here GREAT restaurant scene, shitty interwebs... wtf ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: oddly, the internet here's not nearly as good as minsk
lobbes: I'm certainly improvising as I go here, but I gots a notebook near my bed that I write down shit I *want* to try to introduce her to, but only in time. Going slow (over the internets anyways, so no real rush in either case)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-27#1925126 << this has been good advice, btw, especially since I tend to get ahead of myself in general. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 06:33 diana_coman: lobbes: if it brings it forward, just start with the most basic: grabs the data from db and displays it in the web page; once that is on, use another week to add the segment by day and the search
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925395 << if you are good with the piecemeal approach, then I am. I'll see if I can get just that basic piece done by end-of-day August 4th ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-27 16:51 mp_en_viaje: as far as your practical example : do not genesis parts ; include the 12 things in yoru genersis if they are needed.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-27#1925131 <-- ok. as far as I can see, this means that genesizing a CLtron should be next thing on the list after current item; otherwise can't run *any* of this CL code. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-27 16:50 mp_en_viaje: spyked, my two "objections", as i'm sure you noticed, tend towards a broad "omfg, bad habits" sorta something.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-27#1925129 <-- I did notice, I'll be more careful to properly explain "why chosen to do X" in the future; relatedly, a long time ago /me studied basic jazz theory and it went exactly along the lines of "this mistake is actually a correct note in that particular context" ☝︎
spyked: somewhat... the periphery is still shitty (if not shittier, in places)
diana_coman: I admit that I always pictured Ukr as "oh no, more of Husi"
mp_en_viaje: improved since the 2000s has it ?
spyked: mp_en_viaje, this morning it rained in bucharest for about 2hrs straight (similarly, with 20 mins of heavy rain). another 3hrs later, streets are all dry and I expect by tomorrow it'll be back to 30+ degrees celsius
diana_coman: works, will change to that.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, 100% bucharest/timisoara/what have you. ukraina 100% greater-romania, nfi why they didn't simply join ☟︎
diana_coman: oh, lemme guess re kiev - nobody ever actually cleared the drains since... USSR? ☟︎
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: had changed it before that to "is not always considered"; do you think it's best "is not always to be considered"?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in derpistani lulz : it just rained for maybe 15-20 minutes (admittedly kinda hard) and... kiev is now flooded, foot tall waves in the "street"
mp_en_viaje: re "drop shitty gpg" : the one remaining issue is key bootstrapping. to use peh instead of gpg one can't just keep plaintext rsa privkeys ; but peh has no built-in symmcipher either, so wut do. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: reading diana_coman 's executive summary really brings into focus the beauty of stan's ffa. fucking gem, what.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, to be > not always be considered.
diana_coman: how does one imagine they can "learn" while hiding under the bed, I have no idea
diana_coman: he came into #ossasepia to "learn" but wouldn't give a name other than "zmk" so I gave him a name, what; he apparently ran off when he saw it was for realz, hence negrate.
mp_en_viaje: (bubico reference for the rotaku club) ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: and if they don't.. .well... who's then to say it is not fixed.