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asciilifeform: ... cuz they fucking aint nodes. they're enemy outputs that do strictly as little 'node-ing' as can get away with and still dupe idiots into operating.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: think, this is elementary. as soon as they issue a 'bloomism' or similar cmd to a trb node -- they get malleus'd. and yet we still get blox in realtime for 6-7 months at a stretch.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: item will actually slide, given as will have only 2 wires going to it (mains & 1 ethernet) and not 15
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932520 << ftr, THE thing that helped me the most in the last month was removing a broken homefront partnership from my life. My saltmine job (as an "excel jockey") has remained the same for the last 4 years
asciilifeform: i expect the load times will tell us something interesting, just as before.
diana_coman: the http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log is as earlier so visibly slow though not sure why
diana_coman: ftr the isp guys were very prompt and willing to do as asked; although one has to ask for the most basic of things, they at least do it
asciilifeform: the ominous bit is that miners themselves are apparently letting these go w/out actually verifying (or they'd sit as long as zoolag is sitting, per)
mod6: as per your comment re banners, BingoBoingo, will look.
asciilifeform: apparently 'blockchain info' nao serves gavinized blox as 'bitcoin'
asciilifeform: girlattorney: isps in the nato reich seem 'fast' , but only for so long as the connecting peer is also in the reich. connectivity to the free world is rather more limited.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: mine as well
asciilifeform: ( evidently, as you can see, not too thick to propagate blocks in something like realtime. presently. )
girlattorney: so as long as trb doesn't care about the peers, and there isn't a single point of failure (aka DNS and root servers) we are sound, correct?
girlattorney: btw, after stripping out DNS on my important applications (such as TRB) my question now was about IP space assigned from IANA, could this be in the future an attack vector?
asciilifeform: girlattorney: as you have found now to own satisfaction, w/out having to take asciilifeform's word for it -- the actual # of ~working~ (i.e. stores and serves the entire chain) public nodes on the net, is very very small.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 07:21:35 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932043 << as far as we know this is probably needed in the general.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 08:58:09 trinque: various "block explorers" show that one as shipped. afaik all have.
BingoBoingo: "Creo que va a venir el préstamo del FMI, pero estarán esperando el respaldo por parte de la oposición" << Argentard of apparent import in the Argentardocracy discussing pending, yet to be revealed currency exchange controls. Dude just assumes more dole fodder is on the way so long as Argentines all agree to the right ritual handwashing.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932162 << there of course is no such thing as 'unsign'. next best thing is 'antipatch', i.e. where you fix the errata. and imho all signatures oughta include human-readable annotation
diana_coman: hm, in better & unexpected news, a fresh last-ditch try seems to possibly work - with precisely flask as lobbes's (http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932146)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 04:12:47 spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931955 <-- recall, /me already wrote a toy prototype as his introduction to ada. other than the fact that it looks noobish and requires work to integrate with the c-isms, writing logger on top of it would also require something along the lines of a. mod_adalisp and b. handling other wwwistic s
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932043 << as far as we know this is probably needed in the general.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932038 << not better ; just, different set of "tools". some people have preferences as to th exact manner of timewasting.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 18:09:05 diana_coman: centos 6; because gentoo problem as you just described + the poor moldavian guys anyway pretty much @kukuruz
diana_coman: re logger atm I am undecided as my options so far seem to be: 1. do another round of madness with flask until it works on this old (but stable at least) centos 2. replicate environment aka burn down centos and have fun installing remotely on the machine cuntoo 3. simply run irssi (as I'm otherwise running this code anyway as my client) with logging to db into an mp-wp database and be done with it (possibly each line a one comment - will end
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 13:25:11 diana_coman: but it's a more difficult thing to catch as it were: as above, it's unclear if "no signature" is a sign of "seeking to hide imperfection" or of "no read" or wtf already
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931955 <-- recall, /me already wrote a toy prototype as his introduction to ada. other than the fact that it looks noobish and requires work to integrate with the c-isms, writing logger on top of it would also require something along the lines of a. mod_adalisp and b. handling other wwwistic s
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-23 05:47:14 mircea_popescu: this understanding is current as of cca 2016. meanwhile we agreed that because a) it is preferrable to work with republican rather than imperial items and to prevent more imperial seepage than needed ; and because b) there's no limit to signature count as per long standing observations and discussions (with a very early asciilifeform cca 2013 maybe) then therefore the correct approach is to sign things early, t
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932106 << I agree this is probably the proper behavior. But it ain't changing anytime soon. The heathen coad lobbesbot runs on [i.e. it doesn't sit on the logbot tree like auctionbot] is slated to be discontinued just as soon as I get some more important things complete. Not sinking any more time trying to staple that dead horse
trinque: asciilifeform: I mean whether cuntoo is desirable as is.
asciilifeform: as it is, hot waste from chernobyl is actually moar marketable ( there are actual uses for e.g. co-60 )
asciilifeform: they almost certainly have an internal bezzle that considers the sank moneys as 'asset' of some sort.
BingoBoingo: No one depends on the strength of Argentine paper holding to prop up anything. Even Uruguay has adopted a strict decoupling from Argentina so as to not sink with them.
asciilifeform: i suspect (based solely on 'rectal oracle') that argentina to chinese plays same role as 'junk mortgage' house plays to usg ministry of handout-payola .
asciilifeform: and then you might find, as i did, that gnat.sockets mysteriously barfs in certain cases
diana_coman: as usual, there's no lack of "tools", lolz; only none does anything other than eating up more time, ofc.
asciilifeform: the cache thing is unused, as lobbes pointed out 2wks ago, you can safely comment it out
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 02:58:26 mp_en_viaje: Flask is a lightweight WSGI web application framework. It is designed to make getting started quick and easy, with the ability to scale up to complex applications. It began as a simple wrapper around Werkzeug and Jinja and has become one of the most popular Python web application frameworks." << really makes me want to be sober, reading that thing.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'flask' , 'psycopg', etc. are erry bit as rubbish as the docs suggest. with the twist that the assemblage actually worx ( phuctor's been running, incl. under various abuses , for yrs , on same ) .
diana_coman: centos 6; because gentoo problem as you just described + the poor moldavian guys anyway pretty much @kukuruz
lobbes: man, while it was a learning curve at first, I'm loving Gentoo now. Making my x86 system on this server to work like my x86 cuntoo testbed is as simple as just copying over my USE flags and package masks
asciilifeform: diana_coman: also imho it'd be neat if you wrote about how built the mirror, nitpicks, etc. for n00bz. ( i did not have time to write a pedantic cookbook, and as you can see even the readme had mistakes )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:07:52 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931717 << that's exactly how that goes : as the harem ages, the focus naturally moves from business to education,
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931835 << that was an educational footnote,ty. Also a good reminder that I am still in 'dirt' status, and to not let any of the cannibals out there try and lead me back into pretense
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 09:54:18 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931856 << aint catastrophically burning, troo; but it does block import of pre-'dragon' log until fixed (and, current log links may in fact slowly break as machine clock drifts )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:18:37 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931745 << absolutely. i always suspected the "ease them in" approach as practiced ~everywhere is just fucking stupid.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:19:07 mircea_popescu: but i lack ammo, as i don't japanese myself. (the naked girl in snow, she spent 10 years of her life trying to get to the bottom o fthat pile, with mixed success)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:37:54 mircea_popescu: dun have to be solved today, we'll live for quite a while as it stands.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931856 << aint catastrophically burning, troo; but it does block import of pre-'dragon' log until fixed (and, current log links may in fact slowly break as machine clock drifts )
trinque: various "block explorers" show that one as shipped. afaik all have.
mircea_popescu: dun have to be solved today, we'll live for quite a while as it stands.
mircea_popescu: but i lack ammo, as i don't japanese myself. (the naked girl in snow, she spent 10 years of her life trying to get to the bottom o fthat pile, with mixed success)
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931745 << absolutely. i always suspected the "ease them in" approach as practiced ~everywhere is just fucking stupid.
mircea_popescu: so then she picks the garbage pile the rooster sits on, calls it aifl tower and tells all her ingroup. cuz right, it makes sense, rooster ? gaelic cock ? it's even kinda shaped similarily! then through the "beauty" of the internet her stupid fucking son is going to pester dictionary writers to "be inclusive" and treat the eiffel tower ~AS A CLASS~ rather than as an item, and discuss "other examples" in the first stage, the
mircea_popescu: (and, for completeness, i find the misrepresentation thereof as "ethical feeling" as displayed in ustarded tradition from carnegie to buffett ~particularly~ galling. it is EXACTLY iliterate huswife hearing on the radio them paris folk have dat aifl towers and going about her courtyard to identify "what could be that them aifl tower in here". cuz everything has one, right, she knows, like when she was a little girl, those u
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-28 19:55:35 lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931666 << Thank you. I was thinking this was the way to go as most of the folx giving me the best advice at those meetings (and online for that matter) were, in fact, older subbie girls near their 50s, followed by the 'old guard' owners.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931717 << that's exactly how that goes : as the harem ages, the focus naturally moves from business to education,
asciilifeform: trinque: re clocks, at one time mircea_popescu suggested to use trb block as clock. but imho is of very limited use as clock, cuz not guaranteed to advance in any given interval.
asciilifeform: ( note, they can still be displayed in calendarized pages , as now )
asciilifeform: ( should we even have it in the links..? not as if quoting bot doesn't spew the date when quoting )
asciilifeform: it's headache, but as i understand the shitsoup standard offers no clean knob for it
asciilifeform: trinque: above seems to be exactly what i suggested. but as i understand will also need #x or such, to scroll to line
asciilifeform: but at the same time all links are displayed on www from within a calendarized page just as now , with date in the base url ( the date my logger believes they occurred on )
asciilifeform: ( incl. the page scroll to anchor and highlight must remain working just as now )
asciilifeform: i.e. errything oughta work just as presently, BUT with the index being the actual determinator of where link goes.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 13:27:15 mircea_popescu: add to that the FUCKING INSANE tlp being annoying as fuck, i'm having a blogging crisis over here
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 11:17:48 asciilifeform: it'd have to by the ugly-as-arse /log/chan/index#index or sumsuch
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-27#1931384 << what's the url you want to have? possibly doable as apache-level URL rewrite
asciilifeform: lobbes: if you abstract past the hieroglyphs-- is easier to eat than any euro lang. no declensions, no conjugation , very little of what euro folx normally think of as grammar gnarl.
lobbes: I assume that having quality material with which to read is a good motivator as well. I confess to trying to learn Japanese for a spell; memorized most of the hiragana, started on the katakana, and then went "when the hell will I ever USE this??" then kind of stopped
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931666 << Thank you. I was thinking this was the way to go as most of the folx giving me the best advice at those meetings (and online for that matter) were, in fact, older subbie girls near their 50s, followed by the 'old guard' owners.
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931658 << ty! I got some old-fashioned selects to update as well, tho not nearly as many as asciilifeform and mircea_popescu. Prolly the only good aspect right now of having a nascent blog atm
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at one time there was (is?) such a thing as 'theoretical' soldiers, in usa army. you walk in with a diploma, they sew you a uniform, you go an' 'soldier' in e.g. lab salt mine. at one time asciilifeform worked in a place fulla these. but even they looked moar like someone you could put in a field, than this.
mircea_popescu: 30yo with no experience has exactly 0 business talking to 20something subbies as a general rule, it's a complete mismatch, like taking pepper and cinnamon TO the indies.
asciilifeform: (gtk3 is fatwa'd, as it sucks in 'dbus' and thereby systemdism. see also. )
lobbes: but these beasts, as BingoBoingo points, are different items from the TSA monkeys who are mostly the welfare folx
asciilifeform: i.e. where 'class war!111' fuckwits in usa cheered at 'raise tax rate' until then find ~themselves~ expected to pay same % as buffett would pay if he were to ever pay at all
asciilifeform: as i understand, you get those always, unless you've yer own airplane.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hey , i work as full-time canary in that coal mine...
asciilifeform: it'd end up same as if fedex'd.
BingoBoingo: As long as everything has invoices you can present, customs doesn't *have* to be multi-day ordeal
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-27#1931516 << ftr, I do have a free room in apartment; lordship always welcome as long as I know enough in advance. Though I did some research and it is doubtful if CLT has a copa counter (I could always check on foot to confirm). Loox like closest one may be in Florida
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 15:16:40 mircea_popescu: possibly dealing with typically ustardian faux thing, where the corner grocery store misrepresents itself as "bank". except "oh, we can't do wires"
mircea_popescu: possibly dealing with typically ustardian faux thing, where the corner grocery store misrepresents itself as "bank". except "oh, we can't do wires"
mircea_popescu: at least compared to what idiocy passes for business as usual over there.
mircea_popescu: so it's like 1k/u transport costs as it is uhh
asciilifeform: 4u is the most that can be reliably carried as 'konsoomer luggage' .
asciilifeform: i actually had tlp pegged in my head as a dour, aged, 'feminism'-flavoured chix
mircea_popescu: add to that the FUCKING INSANE tlp being annoying as fuck, i'm having a blogging crisis over here
asciilifeform will use same scheme as in phuctor for the latter
asciilifeform: it'd have to by the ugly-as-arse /log/chan/index#index or sumsuch
asciilifeform tried various browsers, all behave to spec, i.e. none send url-cum-anchor as part of get or post ( ff and chrome do put it in referrer, but it's quite useless for this job, i need a scheme where url entered by hand or otherwise no ref hdr , is valid )
mircea_popescu: i have no intention o fforcing anything like "time", because (as per ancient discussion i suspect meanwhole forgotten but which i still remember) fiat time is doomed non-republican construct.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that they count as "circulating money".
asciilifeform: iirc they still theoretically count as money. (who and why would try to spend it for the printed value, is separate q)
mircea_popescu: as these are collectors' items, they obviously do not count as money for, eg, [][crossing borders].
mircea_popescu: the 1934B and C series (green seal) go for 3-4k each, and 5k+ in CU ; the 1928 gold 50s go for 1-200 and 250+ ; the 1928 C (green seal) 20 is goot for 1-200 / 1k+ ; the 1934 yelow seal 10 dollar bill can be 1-2k / 10k+ each (as it's very rare)
mircea_popescu: the 1928 gold seal issuance easily fetches 5k and even upwards of 10k CU and above grades, per bill. (pretty much everything from 1928 is good money, as a general rule)
lobbes: takes me an ungodly amt of time to login to the wp-admin as well. Will need to investigate