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a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 18:17 mats: have you ever considered part-time work as a crackpot columnist, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: (or rather, whether there can be such a thing as a mechanical test for 'am i in an alley')
asciilifeform: which remains as simple today as it ever was.
asciilifeform: just as how the genesis is hardcoded.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585887 << it is very wrong, on the level of braindage wrong, to imagine that there can be such a thing as an ex post facto choice. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i do not see this 'win' as bugful.
mats: have you ever considered part-time work as a crackpot columnist, asciilifeform ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have nfi why you and mod6 did not pick it for a release, can only answer for myself. yes, the hardcoded header checksums thing is ridiculous. but no, there is such a thing as a historic, immutable planet earth blockchain, and trb ought to include default-on sanity check of ~some~ kind for long-ago blocks.
ben_vulpes: embarassing as it is that i'm only now finding that trb doesn't solipsistically mine, i did determine that it validates the whole chain.
mircea_popescu: history-as is has some various peculiarities, such as this.
asciilifeform: elsewhere, in nearby monkeystans, https://archive.is/5Q1U8 >> 'Venezuela’s president said Sunday that the sudden decision to scrap the country’s most-used currency bill was an economic triumph over the country’s enemies even as the government sent troops and police to cities where riots and looting broke out over the measure. In a national radio and television broadcast, Nicolas Maduro said his abrupt action had flooded the cou
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you suck as a pm alf, give it up.
mircea_popescu: because i'm supposed to have been born as stupid as they are or wtf.
asciilifeform: we had this early in the year here in mordor, after a fire, it was a kind of test-run for collapse, road jams as far as eye could see
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unless i catastrophically misunderstand, for so long as we continue to count gavinistic payments as actual coin, and forgo 'trace to coinbase', there is a hole wide enough to drive a tank through, for conjuring coin from thin air
mod6: i don't love this feature as it introduces complexity and an edge-case that mig-pilot needs to be aware of in the first place. but i'll consider it based on the idea that the complexity can be contained.
asciilifeform: mod6: as i understand it, the cure is to scan backwards until the search tree terminates in coinbases for all branches.
mod6: But certainly a step in the right direction. Will update again as they are available. Salud!
mod6: An update on progress towards the privkey tools feature added [ import private key with scanning from a specified beginHeight ]: I have proven out the edge case previously mentioned, twice, as expected. It can be resolved by doing a -rescan at any time. So far at least.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in so far as i can tell, that union is at best a screaming idiocy, and at worst a boobytrap, it is a way to straight-out arithmetically munge a pointer without provoking gcc warning
mod6: (still trying to catch up, as you can see haha)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 16:00 asciilifeform: as i currently understand it, you need a 'binary star' system of two lan nodes for either to actually mine
asciilifeform: ok i'ma quote this atrocity in the l0gz, because so far as i can tell, it works only by accident, and is an epic wtf:
asciilifeform: as i currently understand it, you need a 'binary star' system of two lan nodes for either to actually mine ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, you were referring to 'spin up trb node from 0 on real-life blockchain'. which more or less everyone involved has done, multiple times. his current thing appears to be the 'lan testnet' scenario i suggested a while back. where one pretends that the year is 2009.
asciilifeform: but yes, i can see how it might work, given as most folx who have these get their ip connectivity from same place as the tv box
Framedragger: eh, whatevs. i redirect the masses to f.a.q. etc as needed.
BingoBoingo: ” moment, and the organization describes itself as committed to defending "the heritage, identity and future of people of European descent in the United States, and around the world."" << Brian Leiter is a notorious aspie
phf: i'm pretty sure that ai memos are enough to rebuild computing from scratch. has architectural descriptions, cpu design, fabrication, language designs, text editors ("emacs" before it was taken over by rms is described in one of the ai-memos, both as a standalone thing and as set of TECO marcos), various algorithms
phf: mircea_popescu: csail (mit ai lab then) published "ai memos" from 1959 to sometime in early 2000s where they described a lot of "firsts" in computing in general. scheme spec was published by sussman and steele, lisp 1.5 compiler (first "self-hosting"), lisp machine architecture, etc. most papers are not so much ai as computing in general.
mircea_popescu: as much as we might like the (self-unaware) lords involved, it can't be seriously argued that mit actually did much in cs.
asciilifeform: every lisp is at some point in its life 'consless' (if the gc is written, as is proper, in itself; and prior to gc init at warmup)
mircea_popescu: and we'll look back on the age of the "idea man" as a great again focus.
mircea_popescu: actually no, lessee. a try's about seven seconds, and then if something's found that's about another 10. you don't always find something, but if skilled enough you mostly do, so say you gotta make 4 steps a minute. each step calls for a random radian value, which meaningfully is about 9 bits but nevertheless comes as a double which iirc is 64 bits. so you're doing 256 bits ie 4 bytes/minute.
asciilifeform: it's almost as if the 2014-15 tor busts neverhappened(tm)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1585299 << i was referring to the actual, meatspace phenomenon where a man lacking a compass in a desert will walk in circles and die, being as no one's legs are of precisely identical length ☝︎
Framedragger: oh, i know the issue. damn. basically as part of its "have i archived this?" check it greps through log of "i archived this:"; the "dev" instance was crawling through a 500K logfile, the production one however has to cope with ~220M logfile. not feasible...
Framedragger: (just to be clear, there were two digits wrong (3.14159265_3_5), and the last one (it should go up by one due to proceeding digit). as phf said, math.h has that constant defined, but eh:)
Framedragger: danielpbarron: and since you have three occurrences of it in 3.1415926545 may as well make it into an actual constant var maybe? /trivial-grammer-nazi-notes
trinque: as idiots say
trinque: only insofar as "they cured cancer"
Framedragger: (in .lt it's translated as "they" which is prolly not very good)
trinque has a seething hatred of the mind that holds the hive as the bedrock of reality, can cause a strong reaction.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 13:25 mircea_popescu: id they said nothing or this ? c) the principle "if you're going to say i'm a dog explain why!" is sound, but this is sadly not always possible. an eminent example of a class of cases when this isn't possible is when someone says something in direct and seeming wilful contradiction of logic. d) statements about you by others are statements about the world-you object as perceived by them not about the i-you subject as perceive
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1584817 << could very well be that the habits of speech in RU and TX are so different as to cause severe friction. same effect happens between TX and just about anywhere in US, too. wasn't confused about what "lowered into pederasty" meant though. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hehe. anyway. drunkwalk it's extremely beautiful/elegant solution to very serious class of problems, as exemplified in this minign thing. i'm having a ball with it.
asciilifeform: as in real life.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/fuckgoats-schematics-released-as-devices-ship/ << Qntra - FUCKGOATS Schematics Released As Devices Ship
asciilifeform: because initially i could not get the yoke test to actually work as advertised.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's something fundamentally visceral about the written page you're entirely inadherent to, as seen here and in the case of clearsigns etc. pass by reference is not the same as pass by value!
mod6: I did that, as to not spam the channel here, and to try to think through what my entire thought might have been. If there is any merit to my thoughts, I'll post it somewhere.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, is there such a thing as an "ai code commenter" ? specifically, rather than the hard problem of "human speech" or junk of that nature, is there any machine approach to turning compileable code into literate code (kuhn) ?
mircea_popescu: then again, if password is a1rPl4nE as per debian best practices...
mircea_popescu: the dubious part is how exactly it'd pay, the wallet encryption is strong as far as we know.
mod6: It could place those in, just as it does regular deeds.. I'd say, if anyone is a good lisp dev (phf, whomever) to work with trinque to get this feature put into place.
asciilifeform: (packaging this up for the final posting as we speak)
asciilifeform: they will be included strictly as sha512 in the 'readme'.
mod6: now. if you need to ship, this instant. you either do what you can, as I did, or you do nothing until you can.
mod6: what do you propose as the idea solution here?
asciilifeform: i don't see any of the available options as 'fit' !!
mircea_popescu: paginate it and let me download as many pages as i wish
mircea_popescu: sensible, but even if it were - sadmods, a page worth 640mb may well not be worth doing as such. really i gotta dld a jiggabit of data every time ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 15:19 Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so you'd then perhaps say that, maybe, a transperson is doomed to not be able to reconcile i-you and world-you, and it is tragic to that person (but that *pretending* as if one has integrated the two in that instance is very stupid)?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1584892 << i would say that pretending the integration "was already done", as if it were some sort of artefact like an oven rather than a process, like respiration ; or pretending that "someone else" is responsible for it being done (such as don't say word x in front of person y because o noes they're too frail to manage) is pure infantilism. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: back to welt der kunst for a moment : there is this (idiotarian) notion that the role of art is somehow "emotional" and a piece of crap is art if it "evokes" in the viewer. bullshit. the only point of art is exactly as above : if it provides persuasive examples of the nature discussed.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so you'd then perhaps say that, maybe, a transperson is doomed to not be able to reconcile i-you and world-you, and it is tragic to that person (but that *pretending* as if one has integrated the two in that instance is very stupid)? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i am persuaded that it is correct to hold the ability to reconcile the i-you and the world-you correctly from both perspectives as the one test of maturity of the individual. it is however trivial to empirically prove this is not always possible (which is the deep meaning as well as the intellectual relevancy of tragedy - and which is why the greeks or shakespeare matter, and some nigglet woman does not).
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the "world-you/i-you" dichotomy and the nonsensical "fundamental attribution error"/"socpsy" poppycock : the determinations of others as to you are made in the context of world-you, and correct or incorrect in THAT context ; your determinations as to you are made ~at your option~ in the context of i-you, and correct or incorrect in that context ; or in the context of world-you and correct or incorrect in THAT conte
Framedragger: haha! right, yeah. good to keep that in mind. (subconsciously, i think, that's why i abbreviated the term, it's pretty derp.) it's sad that some (actually) useful notions are held under its umbrella (such as FAE, even though, yes, we've probably seen the latter defined elsewhere in other ways, and it's something that self-aware people tend to be conscious about anyway.)
Framedragger: ah yeah, i missed that the first time as i had to run off, pity.
mircea_popescu: twas what i read it as at any rate.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 13:25 mircea_popescu: id they said nothing or this ? c) the principle "if you're going to say i'm a dog explain why!" is sound, but this is sadly not always possible. an eminent example of a class of cases when this isn't possible is when someone says something in direct and seeming wilful contradiction of logic. d) statements about you by others are statements about the world-you object as perceived by them not about the i-you subject as perceive
Framedragger: as wanna-be rebellious as i sometimes pretend to be, re. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1584820 d), this is maybe clearest way of illustrating what fundamental attribution error (socpsy notion) is, and support it via phenomenological (pardon the tongue) means. i mean, fair enough ☝︎
mircea_popescu: d by you. this one true largest gap in the theory of knowledge can not in practice ever be bridged, and must be allowed for. e) i don't understand which of the two examples given is a strawman nor how do the two examples given map to the conversation as it went. f) it seems to me very dubious altogether that there was a pecking order, as in, who's teh greatest lord consideration involved. on 2nd pass analysis (cuz originally
mircea_popescu: id they said nothing or this ? c) the principle "if you're going to say i'm a dog explain why!" is sound, but this is sadly not always possible. an eminent example of a class of cases when this isn't possible is when someone says something in direct and seeming wilful contradiction of logic. d) statements about you by others are statements about the world-you object as perceived by them not about the i-you subject as perceive ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 18:17 mircea_popescu: what some psychologists then turn around and measure as "integration". but in any case, it's trivially evident that ~the world~ may be good or bad, but not the subject. observable at all scales, from the freeranged girlfriend of your choice to the us propaganda discussing aleppo/mosul.
trinque: pecking order is unavoidable but not nearly as interesting as the actual subject there was.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1584282 << I'm seeing that this "lowered into pederasty" thing is as endemic to the russian sphere as elliotism is to the states. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: f35 getting scrapped seems quite likely as it stands now.
asciilifeform: '...if Trump’s already calling for the cancellation of the Air Force One program, he could just as easily target the F-35 — and that’s a potential disaster for Northern Utah.' << ohnoez, 1,000,001 leeches might starve!
phf: i was saying re senate in the second phrase in reference to hamsters in first phrase, which was in reference to senate in the asciilifeform url, but the phrase itself was top hit for logs, which is referenced in the second phrase as top hit, and in the first phrase as unrelated lulz. how can this be any clearer
ben_vulpes: a recently compiled bitcoin node, running in its own directory, booted as `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoin -datadir=<local_data_directory> -debug -printtoconsole -gen'
pete_dushenski: as someone who just oversaw ownership of early 2000s lexus is300 that put on 40k km in a year, i'm not sure i'd recommend it unless you're pretty handy. not hard to work on, but parts aren't super cheap, it's a bit dicey in the winter, it's a ~very~ firm ride, and it's soooo hard on consumables (gas and oil).
ben_vulpes: which is particularly amusing, as this stamped material is designed to line up perfectly for the whole run
ben_vulpes: fwiw, i find car-swearing-time doubles as excellent design/thinking time.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: dude, walking out your front door is 'travelling to some shithole'. and no one will bring new car to you! so might as well live a little. remember how fun chicago was ? or ba ?
pete_dushenski: http://bringatrailer.com/auctions/ << plenty of solid, well-cared-for metal for under 10k here alf. as the lots cover the continent, you can even make a road trip (blog story!) out of the adventure. also gives you a chance to play autions without playing eulora.
ben_vulpes: i don't think it's quite as simple as 'brew install eulora', although it was close
ben_vulpes: trinque: recent 'snowpaclypse' affected me /not one whit/, as i could stroll to the train and be in city center more-or-less on domenad
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha, such as.
trinque: it was just old as shit and drove in too many different climates
trinque actually in the market for new vehicle as of yesterday.
mircea_popescu: therefore bot commands will be known as fucksticks.
pete_dushenski: lol i just mistyped !Q as iQ is all.
asciilifeform: as i said -- usa bans cheap auto. because usury.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: carlos ghosn is understandably well known in the auto industry. he's a true lebzilianenchman (lebanese-brazilian-frenchman), meaning he has a strong aesthetic sense but he's also quite the fierce deal-maker. only in the last 5 years has akio toyoda risen to ghosn's level as an overall strategist, product developer, and brand manager. alan mullaly and martin winterkorn were the only other two
mircea_popescu: anyway. the problem of very long lived actinides (like iodine 129) is certain to eventually drive burner designs. even if they're run as two separate installatiosn as currently the case for some insane reason (really, germany burns up uranium in light water reactor, then ships the leftover by train to france to be reburned in a special burner. could have done all in one place but hey.).
mircea_popescu: tis not so plain an' simple as all that alfie. notwithstanding that yeah, prolly breeder reactors are going to take over as we run out of space to put the waste ; nevertheless they're more expensive an' complicated and etc. simply larger bar.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: as in, nuclear waste storage is a propped-up issue/narrative? interesting
mircea_popescu: in any case - mental models of logic, as with mental models of anything found in nature -, are approximations. the same mechanism that allows a guy to isolate 0* from null.predicate allows one all sorts of psycho-imunological responses that are rather requisite to maintain the subjective notion of the self ~in a format comprehensible to itself~! ☟︎