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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a complicated point
that you bring. just how equal are
the 7 77 and 777 ? consider - for all
their money, rando "tech start-up" couldn't afford an engineer
that didn't suck
to do
their w/e, database, sysadmining, w/e.
mircea_popescu: currently all
this +/- cycling is pretty harmful
to
the containment vessels.
mircea_popescu: it fundamentally changes
the role of money, in many ways, but i suspect
this may be
the most notable.
mircea_popescu: and in
these
terms, a very simple explanation of why
the republic is indefeatable is very simply forthcoming : given
two users a and b who,
through division of labour, have expertise in fields f1 and f2,
the empire path for a
to access f2 or for b
to access f1 is
to
take some money all
the way from -3
to 3
TWICE. whereas
the republican model simply has a
talk
to b, on
the mediation of a gossipd/wot
a111: Logged on 2015-02-21 01:19 mircea_popescu: "she's been going
through 6-7k each month since autumn, but i get
to go visit p diddy whenever i feel like it. it's a wash"
mircea_popescu: see
the discussion re
the expensive girl, where was it
mircea_popescu: this is because you lack expertise, which always comes embodied in cunts, which you acquired
through your connections, which you built on your food.
mircea_popescu: you could buy lsd just fine, you just dun want
to. but w/e, argument is rescuable replacing
the lsd for nuke firing assemblages or w/e.
PeterL: Fox News is
the biggest "red
team" media outlet, nobody from "blue
team" is going
to give
the blowhard a job
PeterL: mircea_popescu Nobody would pay Hannity more
than Fox News, he might get a
tiny gig on a local place or something
mircea_popescu: company's 50 bux can not buy a democrat posters, your 50 bux can, but
they can't buy you a goat in afghanistan.
mircea_popescu: yes but i was discussing degrees on one side of 0 and you seem
to be discussing degrees on
the other side. let's build a reconciled continuum : speculative gains (-3) -booking-> profits (-2) -realizing-> corporate cash (-1) -donation,salary,etc-> cash(0) -relations-> food (1) -connections-> cunt (2) -expertise-> plutonium (3)
mircea_popescu: obviously it depends what you mean by "actual". if you mean nude object,
then sure, any dollars
that made
their way
to venus may be appreciated aesthetically by
the venusians, and
therefore
they weren't really intrinsically chumpatronic. but in
the system as it is, defined historically and
therefore enclosed, it can be said
the zil-buying ability is a paritcular property of rubles q rubles.
mircea_popescu: PeterL wouldn't he just move over
to
the next station for prolly more money ?
mircea_popescu: (incidentally -
the "sterilizing gate" view is a perfectly fine way
to look at bitcoin prices. normal usd-land profits need
to shed about half
to
two
thirds before
they can enter
the economic circuit without blowing
things up (too badly) ; meanwhile bitcoin has
to expand NO LESS
than 700x.)
PeterL: "10. Rupert Murdoch fires Sean Hannity from Fox News." <<
this one I would also like
to see happen
mircea_popescu: it's more intricate
than
this, but should suffice
to show
that not all dollars are equally vaporous.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile dollars as speculation... have
to be booked as profits! before
they can be realised.
that's
two degrees.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile dollars as profits... can't be spent.
they gotta be "realized" first ; which is a sterilizing gate (the sterilisation is called
taxation for no sane reason, it's not a
tax)
mircea_popescu: trivial
to show
there's degrees of chumpatronic-ness of "money".
take dollars as cash :
they can be spent (while supplies last),
they're basically equivalent
to one of
those coupons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the sort
that moves
the vax etc is by far
the most chumpatronic.
PeterL: 5. In her inaugural address, Hillary Clinton promises
to “wrest back control of our democracy and economy from
the moneyed interests
that have
taken over both.” << how many different ways can
the socialists say "seize
the means of production"?
mircea_popescu: he;s got a
thing about why "we" "need" universal basic income
too , complete with
tedtalk-esque blockletters and whatnot.
PeterL: ok, I'm glad it is not just me
that can see it
mircea_popescu: of course, most of
this "money" isn't much more substantial
than
the imaginary fortunes of adolescents cycling
through
their fantasy business career after fapping and pre falling asleep.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: PeterL pretty sure
that's accurate. lotta money gotta move if
trump is in charge.
PeterL: From American "News": "major Wall Street analysts agree
that
the S&P 500 will likely sell off if Donald
Trump wins, and at least hold gains if Hillary Clinton wins." << DOOM will befall you unless you elect our chosen leader!
mircea_popescu: recall
the "where are
the rembrandts
then" argument ?
the us fails
to produce a philosopher worth
the mention every other decade ; athens managed
that much on 1/1000th
the population.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: what clothes
the whores wear
that year dun really enter in
this discussion. point being reals vs "humanities".
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 16:27 mircea_popescu:
the per-hooker value
to bill is quantifiable, 20 bux or whatever ; and
then
this splits up into per-social-scientist benefit of whatever, fiddy cents. meanwhile
the per-discovery value
to bill is unquantifiable, and if quantified usually comes
to ~0.
shinohai: I have forgotten
the number of gospels
that weren't accepted into
the canon
shinohai: (Not counting
those cursed Apocryphal worx)
shinohai: Well it
took 4 gospels
to
tell
the story of Jesus.
mircea_popescu: (for one
thing in
that it is variant - next
time i might
tell
the same anecdote an entirely different way)
shinohai: One day jhvh1 will have a mircea_popescu version of
the Bible. It's so much more concise.
mircea_popescu: whereas english speaking world on
the contrary, is still a reimplementation (5th ?) of
the "angevin empire", ie
that ridoinculous construction of
the house of plantagenet, kings in england, dukes of normandy and aquitanie, counts of anjou etc etc.
mircea_popescu: (ie, soviets saw
themselves as a national state, not as a mongrel empire. consequently population must be produced, can't be imported. consequently, all women must marry and bear 2.x children. consequently etc all
the way down)
mircea_popescu: this mostly worked
that way because anticonceptional issues.
mircea_popescu: dumb orcs had a very feudal system of allocating
the cunt - whereby
the pretty ones would be married off and
then used by
the guy's bosses.
mircea_popescu: the problem
there starts with
the fact
that human brain has fixed single attention span.
mircea_popescu: which in
the end is just another statement of
that ancient observation
that "our" modern democracy is cancer.
mircea_popescu: if
there's free flow of
tech,
then his only incentive is
to optimize for max whoredom.
mircea_popescu: if
the only way
to get an ipad were
to be on
the list approved by bill,
then bill'd have a direct incentive
to fill u-of-m with physics dudes.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason medieval empires always included sumptuary laws, which prevented
the margins from benefitting from
the discoveries/technologies. yes
this has a cost in
terms of aggregate productivity, BUT
that cost can, and in practice usually is, offset by
the benefit in political structuring.
mircea_popescu: so filling
the field with "social science"
tards is very reasonable, in
that logic.
mircea_popescu: the per-hooker value
to bill is quantifiable, 20 bux or whatever ; and
then
this splits up into per-social-scientist benefit of whatever, fiddy cents. meanwhile
the per-discovery value
to bill is unquantifiable, and if quantified usually comes
to ~0.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-11-05 15:22 mircea_popescu: epstein is one of many such squires, let's call
them.
the squire's estate consists of a brothel, which may be obv multiple physical locations but generally arranged in a star pattern, a harvesting operation, his connections
to
the democrat party (in
this case via abedin-clinton-obama). he doesn't do his own marketing,
the people running
the whole
thing do.
mircea_popescu: the logic is judicious from
the pov of socialist empire :
the marginal utility of stem is actually nil, because whatever rocket
they invent
the russkis will steal and
the chinese will make cheaper anyway ; whereas
the marginal utility of
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-05#1563151 is manifest : however many are needed
to brew a head of fucktoys required by bill de blasio
to forget
the monkey at home.
☝︎ trinque: clitler was only ever going
to be prosecuted if
the hairdo gets into office.
that hasn't changed.
mircea_popescu: that's not much reason. it is a cause, obviously, but
that's a different story.
mircea_popescu: it's altogether unclear
the "social" "sciences" actually have reason
to hold a chair at all. and
this includes ALL of
them : physchology, economy, what have you.
mircea_popescu: then again,
they mostly don't, just as soon as stole enough
to
take off
they
take off.
mircea_popescu: it's a motley crew, some are deeply inept, like say
the journowhore ("new york elite"!!!) woman
that got kicked out. it's a wonder why
the few and far between competent ones accept
to sit at
that
table.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't, but
then again what did
they ever do
that actually made
their lives better ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose
the point here is
that it's insanely hard for system men
to come
to
terms with
the realisation
that
the system is doing more harm
than good. after all if
they believed
that
they wouldn't be in it in
the first place. so
they're bound, by
the insane logic
that castrates
them,.
to also believe
that proclaiming clinton innocent actually helps her.
mircea_popescu: lmao right.
those who do would have already voted anyway.
mircea_popescu: the fact
that she was absolved makes more of a case against her
than if
they just let it lie.