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Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah k, i mean, i may disagree re. dunbar's number being directly applicable here, maybe i'm some l33t package maintainer, but fair enough, won't argue further here
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 21:23 mircea_popescu: Framedragger so some clients handle it correctly. this isn't much of an argument that it belongs there.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 17:04 mircea_popescu: except in the case as seen of hpa's key, where they just attached a valid sig to an invalid key.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa it is not wholly unheard-of for wife to mutilate husband (blinding, decocking, etc) while he sleeps
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah but that ain't a 'valid sig'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> less money, shittier work. << Even if more money can't spend because blows cover, then die
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo " since it's sale to Airbnb" << its. << ty fxd
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and here's a two stroke engine to get the day started in gear. http://67.media.tumblr.com/c4a6298582c76943b282e9b85b59de44/tumblr_nukg7cFcjI1tvvddjo1_500.gif << ty
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: whether signature by $key to which the key in question is a sub of is valid?
Framedragger: > mircea_popescu: [15:40:33] well, going by Framedragger 's 20mn figure. aha.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu dun believe in self-sigs ?
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu even ~read~ the thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: does it not make sense to you that having two classes of object, whereas previously there was no need to distinguish classes, is at least 2x complexity ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phuctor is, originally, ~specifically~ about pgp keys, ~verbatim~, as found in the wild forest. any other thing will have to be a new gadget.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fella is a well-known dead tree sf author on this side of the ocean.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: realize that the routine posted earlier uses all of rfc4880.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: good advice, thanks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would be. but i never finished my cl rewrite of phuctor.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, Framedragger, et al : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/c06000f7-e785-4388-8328-f43f90055283/?raw=true
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: can't disagree with you there
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah not the worst idea, i too think there may be not much of a market there though, but who knows.. good to know, if i ever come to consider b2b plans more seriously
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: about to post proggy, momentarily
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: won't work
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think that's a new record for time to qntra post being linked by another qntra post.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Adding some links to extant qntra
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is anyone qntraing the guccifer thing ? speak now else i'm gonna << I'm going to sleep. If you qntra it I'll publish upon waking
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: so they're pathetic stoolies, what of it. what else have they been for decades?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-23 02:06 mircea_popescu: update posts set post_content = REPLACE(post_content, 'a href="http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/','a href="http://btcbase.org/log/'); will go from http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#986007 to http://btcbase.org/log/?date=21-01-2015#986007
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: trilema q : how in the hell is every old log.b-a link now a btcbase.org link ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-14 01:33 mircea_popescu: ^ if anyone has suggestions...
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 17:27 mircea_popescu: "She does stink and she should quit. But I don't want it to be because of me. It should be the traditional route; years of rejections and failures till she's spit out the bottom of the porn industry."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno if the original was intended to be fiction, but this incremental rewriting is how the oral history passes
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah k, this particiular concern should be acknowledged
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: 10000 mile distant response: just because you accept (at least parts of) (berkeleyan?) skepticism doesn't necessarily mean that *all* relevant conceptual boundaries are useless and prone to slippery slope dissolution
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'provided by universe' is a practical thing - like calculating digits of pi works the same regardless of whether you do it with darts, afghan - with kalash, and me - by throwing rocks, in a circle-in-square.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah but i dunno how good it is with serving parallel requests; think it will be fine for this though, yeah
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: waiwut
Framedragger: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to interrupt this joyful occasion of copulation of you two by noting that ssh-rsa keys of all of ipv4 are now ready for phuctoring and further analysis; they are in the format of e,N,ipaddress. there's 10.6M of them, out of 20.8M something-listening-on-port-22 hosts. rejoice!
asciilifeform: and the problem was solved in ways which mircea_popescu would find quite unsatisfying
a111: Logged on 2016-06-14 13:18 mircea_popescu: there's some problems with the concept of "specification" also that i don't have clear in my mind
asciilifeform: but road did not switch directions for hours while mircea_popescu drove wrong way. spat him out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only because it presently has no other specification
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-14 13:12 mircea_popescu: how do you put in "all the parts that are needed by ALL future users" but "no parts not needed by ANY future user" ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-14#1482593 << this is called orthogonalization. and is a thing. even if lazy bastards never do it and consequently mircea_popescu has never seen it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'm with mircea_popescu on this one ^ .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: with static library that is NOT a thing
asciilifeform: which is to say, a fairly heavy thing, that mircea_popescu is likely to use in his creations without reading.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is also against operating system? after all, it also entails invoking existing code instead of repasting whole shebang
trinque: sure, and see mircea_popescu from 4 lines ago
asciilifeform: in linked piece, mircea_popescu described how he would piss right back on people who intend to waste his time
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes! precisely that one.
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu remember his mega-article on leverage ?
asciilifeform: my n, for all mircea_popescu knows, could be 1,000.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-14 04:29 mircea_popescu: the odds of two projects wanting the same exact verbatim pile of lib-code are ~as good as for a hash collision.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: makes ~exactly same amount of sense by abolishing copyright by poking out eyes.
asciilifeform: the part i disagree is mircea_popescu's apparent insistence that said chances ought to artificially obscure the origin
asciilifeform: possibly what mircea_popescu was thinking is that the operator is NOT absolved of the chore of reading the thing that hashed to B9F2C8885474FD6B4F7D36955799716E68161BE8F8CFCE3640ADE942FE0064A00D64C7DABC3EC36B24797760B99EA6C79D74A8F984DCC3AEAC2EEF183B3ED70B
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu describes, with '#include <idiocy.h>'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he stops it by taking SPECIFIC HASH, of specific one of my patches! as his antecedent.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we are never in any danger of having ~this~ 'include'
asciilifeform: my point is that mircea_popescu is using very blunt stick.
asciilifeform: nothing about 'let's cp this 1,000,001 times because mircea_popescu took away #include' compels intelligent rereading.
asciilifeform: here i must agree with mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: imho mircea_popescu is catastrophically missing the point re the genesis thing:
asciilifeform: but it is not outside. the signed pedigreed tarball is a vtronic creation (in the respective cases, mine and mircea_popescu 's)
asciilifeform: using what pedigree there actually is - e.g., mircea_popescu's signed pgp tarball - is part of this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it has to burn with proper petrol, farts are not enough.
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu recall why i did the tinyscheme genesis the way i did ?
asciilifeform: and i seriously fail to see why mircea_popescu is barfing
trinque: mircea_popescu │ the problems only begin when trinque goes on a jwz rampage "i only wanted the offspring to sprout, not rob the store". << I agree 100% that offspring are in any sane scenario mine to end
asciilifeform: thing is, operator doesn't specifically start from anything. he specifies a press head (if that. in one variant contemplated earlier by mircea_popescu, one does not even specify press head, but instead walk longest chain having sigs S1...Sn)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'trust cone' is subset of your light cone.
asciilifeform: if anybody wants to roll shiva in as part of his lineage, i recommend linking up part1 and part2 as mircea_popescu describes here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't see why a genesis with hash H has to be 'meta'-limited to only be antecedentable as 'part of project P'
mod6: mircea_popescu: well, i think it's a better, cleaner practice.
mod6: mircea_popescu: i mean, if i have genesis.vpatch (trb) and v-genesis.vpatch in http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/
asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu do you happen to have the link handy to this thread ? )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481822 << mircea_popescu made a very convincing argument in favour of ~not~ having a central repo of any kind, but rather - if anything - a streamlined mechanism for each lord (including mod6 & ben_vulpes under the banner of trb foundation) to put ~his own trb~ in usable format on ~his own~ www ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-14 00:48 mircea_popescu: hey asciilifeform got a link to where you made the point in the log that most of what sane people do consists of cleaving the practical from the metaphysical or such ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-19#1377638 ? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: perhaps, but my pyres held numerous people and were assemblableable by noobs on drugs with a minimum of oversight.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> you can't say lisp without S! << heheh. "lithp"
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> oh and mod6 - suppose i want to add the observation that really, the wallet functionality and the "caching transactions" functionality should be separated in bitcoin - there's no conceivable reason to store the latter in the former for instance. how would i go about adding this to the bitcoin tickets ? ask you ? do something myslef ? << you certainly can feel free to help me round out the t
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No that is a hammer drill
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu did say 'pearl harbour' no ?
asciilifeform: or did mircea_popescu previously think that it had been a defrocked accountant imprisoned for 40 unpad parking tickets.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu moar circus clowns: https://github.com/joshua-m-david/jerichoencryption << there is a pestilential profusion of these 'i'ma STROOOONG CRYYYPTO!!1111 IN NODEJS !111' out there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was the 1 quasi-working linux distro, other than 'make it all by hand'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu if you're fond of watching atlantises sink, https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7738104.html
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ever been in traffic in Naples? quite curious what you'd make of it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ever drove around anywhere in usa ?
phf: mircea_popescu: i grew up working on cars with my grandfather, was the main dacha activity, i figured what quality of car mechanic would people advertising food&loding on craigslist really need?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: sure.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah lol
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 14:52 mircea_popescu: but to make it short and sweet : if she were the sort of six-deviations talented woman that'd benefit from what you imagine is "not having to show up in an office", she'd pointedly not be writing the sort of crap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope - passed up this chance, left it at home. but iirc ben_vulpes had his.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey, writing pulp crapolade beats the SHIT out of showing up to an office.