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mircea_popescu: though in fact not that great if all on pizarro either
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, conceivably. besides, he has a point, not bad to have another one.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: hm; the chan is meant to be official rather than community (like eulorum) so I suppose at some point we should, shouldn't we;
mircea_popescu: is the nsa one on piz ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : at the very least, would ~very~ much like there to be at least a 2nd logger, somewhere other than piz, for redundancy
asciilifeform: would have to, as i understand, dispense with notion of time, and go by '# lines'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yeah, though "more reaearch needed", seems direct stepping stone to gossipd after all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: something like bitcoin's merkle-style order-indep. hashing would potentially work . but still relies on clock sync, otherwise no 2 boxes have same notion of interval to be hashed
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i meant, do you think we should
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: we don't run a logger; the site is on shared hosting with pizarro
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re synced-loggers -- i sat for whole day thinking about this, but in the end came to same conclusion as mircea_popescu , i.e. that it is moar complicated than appears, fleanode will liberally reorder lines
mircea_popescu: apparently can't find online. japanese thing, white plastic, squarish
asciilifeform: who made this ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, items from the 80s, reliable, because back then um process. items from 2010s, who the fuck knows what ic is in there and what it does /
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not easy to picture how might fuck up ocr pistol, but i suppose not impossible
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, is there any mutualization in the end, or not yet ? imo one massive win would be for loggers to put out ~signed~ dumps so they can mutually sync
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, oh oh. mine are the actual guns. i dunno, not THAT heavy, more bulky i guess. and rigid and so on. i should get newer, but then can you trust newer hardware ?
diana_coman: yeee, feels good to be back!
mircea_popescu: every time girls start unloading bags airline checkin woman's eyes widen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these were pcb-mounted things, for potential inclusion in larger device.
mircea_popescu: yea ; or i could've jus ttaken ocr guns along. but somehow i was naive, the romanticism of the idea appealed at the onset.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-29 10:21:41 asciilifeform: dun have to be much bigger than fg per se, really.
mircea_popescu: i mean yes i got multiples, and the flesh is willing... but my spirit's weak, i confess i kinda like them.
mircea_popescu: do you realise every time i do a keyop it's ~half hour of slavegirl time going blind on asciisoup ?
asciilifeform: well can also do like we did FG site and mircea_popescu write 'hey make the grey deeper' and then asciilifeform goes an' turns knob. but, will take longer i expect.
mircea_popescu: i guess we find out if i can vpatch while traveling.
mircea_popescu: i guess there's no way i can wiggle out of this, is there
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: after genesis will be pretty easy to stand up local copy. so in fact if you like can set the colours in person and vpatch, i will read, sign, upload to dulap..
mircea_popescu: which was the original spec.
mircea_popescu: afaik he never was more than a day or so moving coin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, one way to find out.
asciilifeform: ( if let's say i needed to move a coin, would have moved ? or also out to lunch )
asciilifeform: i cannot resist to ask, where the everliving fuck was trinque during all of this.
mircea_popescu: yes, that's quite useful.
asciilifeform: which reminds me, another phfism i gotta clone, that paste-stasher
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926179 << ok well, this seems to be back then. #trilema is again in session, hear ye hear ye, all pleas will be heard and all claims will be settled. speak your mind, we're back in business.
asciilifeform: also all of this wasn't particularly hard, lobbes gave up imho too quickly.
asciilifeform: nao in re mechanicals -- bot is written from 0 using bare sockets. www end and bot eat a common config, there are nomoar 'magic' constants in the proggy. so it will be pretty simple to set up mirrors after genesis, if anyone is up to it
PeterL: yeah, I guess if somebody messages you then you can just say "talk to me in #whatever"
mircea_popescu: PeterL, let the lord make that call i think.
asciilifeform: then i think we're current
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i only read this and #eulora lolz
asciilifeform: iirc there was >1 eulora ? (eulora-debug) or sumthing
PeterL: maybe point to the castles? (Bingoboingo at #pizarro, etc) but that might make the message too long?
mircea_popescu: oh, added to logger ? #eulora plox
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu lemme know at any pt if you want chans in there (i think i got all the currently alive people)
asciilifeform: fwiw i left him out of the init roster. if he comes back to life will consider to add
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't send anyone to learn from mod6 as things stand.
mircea_popescu: ^ anyone else actively maintaining a castle i forgot in the list ?
mircea_popescu: /msg ChanServ SET #trilema ENTRYMSG To speak here you must be voiced by one of the lords. Talk to asciilifeform , BingoBoingo , diana_coman , hanbot , trinque
asciilifeform: aite then!
mircea_popescu: i dun care tbh. i move too much anyway
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lemme know if you want the clock fiddled, i think it's gmt right nao
mircea_popescu: -ChanServ- [#trilema] To speak in #trilema you must be voiced. If you have a RSA key registered with deedbot, send !!up to it in a private message, decrypt the challenge string and return it with !!v ; else politely ask one of the voiced people to voice you. << meanwhile became total bs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, actually, ima edit the join message.
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo now that i can drop it in, do you recall the lafond article in question ? i remember fucking reading it, but i can't find it again ;/
asciilifeform: PeterL: there's still coupla missing knobs in www logotron (quoted strings for search; pagination for same; backlinkage)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: maybe add the logger www to banner ? if you feel like
PeterL: good to see things back up and running!
mircea_popescu: is there more stuff i need to do while op'd actually ?
asciilifeform pleased to be back on the air !
asciilifeform: ^ will point to vpatch...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: more interestingly, asciilifeform found that he has py-de-gpgation thing already lying around from when wrote snsa-shop telecontroller. so actually can bolt it on. would rather genesis current ver 1st tho.
mircea_popescu: blessed be the innocent, they don't even know what happened lolz.
mircea_popescu: aite, im not gonna add auctionbot and lobbesbot to +V list then, because they're like... the only bots that don't suck ?
asciilifeform: so, hm, loox like he has gpgism ? or, did trinque have speshulcase table
mircea_popescu: soooo.... lobbes knows how to do this rsa thing huh
asciilifeform: * deedbot gives voice to lobbesbot
mircea_popescu: they're not autovoiced, did deedbot give it to them ?
mircea_popescu: i don't fucking get it though. how the fuck do lobbesbot and scriba have voice ?
mircea_popescu: one sec let me figure out how the fuck you handle the autovoice lists
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you voice the thing , it'll echo
mircea_popescu: damn. i'm not gonna do that now wth.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 2 weeks, 3 days, 11 hours, and 14 minutes ago: <mp_en_viaje> remember you wanted to !!rate -10 princessnell http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924146
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/holy-shit-music-videos/ << Trilema -- Holy shit, music videos
mp_en_viaje: in the meantime, everyone's invited on trilema & other blogs.
mp_en_viaje: i will be setting the #trilema channel to silence until we actually have working logs ; which is hopefully mid august. this situation where there's a single logger that's even still going coincidentally, perhaps because maintainer was so deeply unreachable others couldn't even reach out to sync downtime is too much to paper over.
mp_en_viaje: also, this newmode of idiocy does not in fact work.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2019-8-2#475954 << this has been ongoing for a while
mp_en_viaje: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/07/time-estimation-for-logotron-based-off-of-logbot-august-18th/ << i guess we're stuck with this.
scriba: Logged on 2019-06-26: [17:45:27] <asciilifeform> iirc there exists a 'fetish' set who dream of... being eaten by cannibals. i never grasped exactly how this worx, psychologically, but entirely possib that 'is proof of my deliciousness!'
mp_en_viaje: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20190626/#101 << scriba ended logging on the 26th, so that's not useful either
mp_en_viaje: oh, and hm, wtf, this has no readouts.
mp_en_viaje: o look at that, phf logger also quit sometime last night. hey!
mp_en_viaje: you're currently in this position where you've neither done anything useful nor said anything intelligent in years ; and i will send you packing the next time this comes around.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1926141 << understand, the relationship is not symmetrical. this "mod6 isn't building off what mp says, just says his own things" thing you're trying will not work out any better for you than it worked every other time someone else tried it before. i get that the self-feeling of specialness is the core and root of all hominids, but that doesn't promise it also does something outside the skull. se ☝︎
mod6: !Q later tell mp_en_viaje http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/OmWqw/?raw=true << Saw the logger died and you were not in-chan.
mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2019-August/000335.html << Here's The Foundation report for July.
asciilifeform: what the fuck is the common thread there?!
asciilifeform: and, the other q, is writing log www somehow lethally dangerous work ?! kako wrote -- succumbed to brain fungus. Framedragger -- succumbed. phf -- ditto. ben_vulpes -- ???!
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform is sewing a constant-time keccak so that peh can rsa in battlefield. is someone gonna do this in my place, so i can write www log ??
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes ( or trinque , plox to whisper in his ear ) : phf might be dead, but afaik you aint! where is the genesis of yer www log front end ? why are we down to ONE half-maintained log bot ? does asciilifeform have to drop errything and try an' bake a logger ? why ?
mod6: I've got to stop moving for a minute and eat something, and then write up a basic nothing-burger of a foundation report. I'll be back around in a bit.
mod6: Like I said earlier this year, I do care about my wot-rating, so I don't want to damage that. Let's discuss/work together to help me move on from these things.
mod6: But all of this has beaten me down. I've been trying to soldier on this year, being productive, helpful. But it's not working out, is it?
mod6: Heck, for what its worth, I know that there has been some talk about reorganziation of Pizarro's roles/responsibilities since after this latest round, that if I'm causing strife/headaches, I'd even be willing to split my shares between BingoBoingo and asciilifeform, and you guys can continue one.
mod6: This year, I've done what I could with the time I have available, which, indeed, is far less time than I've had in say, '11-'16. I know I haven't produced as much as I would like this year, especially in July. I've had so much secular stuff come up, my head is spinning. But reality is, I barely have enough time to keep up with the logs.
mod6: So I should just do this on my own accord. Shall we make some arragements for someone to take over the Foundation? How can we go about this. I want to see TMSR~/The Foundation/Pizzaro succeed. Even if that means that I'm not a part of these any longer.
mod6: Or tell me to leave.
mod6: It seems like Mr. Popescu feels the same way. That I should be drummed out. We've known each other (all of us) for quite some time now. And I don't want to be a "problem" or "idjit" or whatever. Mainly, I don't want to force you all to kick me out. ☝︎