asciilifeform: broke teeth.

asciilifeform: i experimented with curing an earlier chromebook, in early 2013, also

asciilifeform: ( then found ~other~ boobies inside.. )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my whole orig impetus for 'cure bootloader' was that nonsense

asciilifeform wishes a speedy return to health to hanbot

asciilifeform: but sure.

asciilifeform also did not always have theorem to prove

asciilifeform could prolly happily live for yr in a bunker with net pipe

asciilifeform: no, makes sense.

asciilifeform: ( extermination dun usually require ~speaking~ to the roaches )

asciilifeform: yrs ago when asciilifeform earned bread as a sort of spammer exterminator, also usually engaged manually for own amusement, rather than to any particular other end

asciilifeform: makes sense

asciilifeform: notbad, if 1 in 15 that actually take manual input, end up turning into nicoleci

asciilifeform: heh, it's prolly moar interesting that e.g. server lint trap contents, yea

asciilifeform: about what % reach the stage where mircea_popescu bothers with keyboard input ?

asciilifeform: just how many tonnes of sea water per kg of U

asciilifeform wonders how many kilometres of eliza log mircea_popescu ends up reading per 1 actual nicoleci worth of yield

asciilifeform: these yes ( iirc even their actual eliza proggy leaked )

asciilifeform: or is there really just that 1

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever rule out hypothesis that there's a diff heathen pit where moar % actual people and fewer % elizas ?

asciilifeform: electron shells? pretty interesting.

asciilifeform: i had nfi how to parse 'just message it'

asciilifeform: hm in point of fact didn't

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever try bot that picks 2 derps and sets'em against 1 another ?

asciilifeform: the 'people' are very similar parrots tho.

asciilifeform: of course parrot. how else.

asciilifeform: it's a really notbad idjit-emulator.

asciilifeform: just set the knobs.

asciilifeform: stock eliza will perform a++.

asciilifeform: 'if you want to find out my $keyword just message it'

asciilifeform: there's, what, 5 or 6 things they emit ( incl. the 'i have a dom' , 'i am a dom', etc claptrap )

asciilifeform: wainot ? just seed the eliza with buncha variants of same garbage 'ugh i can't see what's in the msg box' and yer golden

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that or http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-20#1873867 ☝︎

asciilifeform: lobbes: that doesn't look like a strace output

asciilifeform: granted ave1's gnat still has 'miles to go' in some aspects, gotta be de-autoconf'd ( asciilifeform aint ever signing ANYTHING with autoconfolade in it ) and genesis'd. but it worx a++, is portable (to arm, currently) and is frozen, which is good bit moar than can be said for adacore's thing

asciilifeform: ( starting with ch12 all ffa tested strictly on ave1's gnat )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878042 << btw current standard gnat is ave1's , you can use the heathen one (at least with asciilifeform's proggies, worx) but 'no warranty' ☝︎

asciilifeform: and in general this is gold standard for 'wtf is this' debug. pleez post strace log folx!

asciilifeform: ( does it ever create the file at that path ? if so, failed ? etc ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: lobbes: post strace plox ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878041 << this loox possibly like failure of the tempfile mechanism ( as discussed in recent thread ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878039 << pretty interesting, plox to post if you end up remembering where saw this orig ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform bbl;meat

asciilifeform: remember, they sell that thing as a dumb terminal, with only a token bone thrown to 'yes you can install own os' notion

asciilifeform: spyked: it does, and immediately , if you forget the ctrl-d 'dev mode' ritual

asciilifeform: spyked: it's the 1st one most folx used, given as it was the first vtron ☟︎

asciilifeform: i find this intolerable on any box used for anything serious whatsoever, so my c101pa is presently gathering dust ☟︎

asciilifeform: spyked: the other headache is that google's orig boot rom will format your hdd if you forget to hit ctrl-d on coldboot

asciilifeform: ( and iirc he in fact undershot the probability by an order of magnitude, when calculating )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877980 << l. szilard's proposition that los alamos nuke might chainreact atmosphere, was neither moar nor less 'insane' ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( loox like it's 1 of those 'haha, he thinks he has courage, let him sit in gulag! see how much courage then!' sorta flames ) ☟︎

asciilifeform went an' actually read http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877963 , turns out its sorta opposite sign bit from what i assumed ☝︎

asciilifeform: kinda smacks of ye olde 'bagdad battery' ( i.e. 'they ~could~ have, and we found these-here vaguely suggestive pot shards..' )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you know of specifics re the 'millenia' item, i'd be quite curious to see, 1st time i hear of this notion (outside of the hindu nationalist lolcows, who are deadly certain that they had nuke and supercomputer 'millenia' ago also.. ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: lobbes: asciilifeform currently using diana_coman's vtron , worx a+++

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf loox like dks is selling another! 'ivory' on lulzbay >> https://archive.is/Bkm8E ☟︎

asciilifeform brb,teatime

asciilifeform: 'biological horn' made comebacks when blood transfusion 'oh noez, will subsume personality of donor' and then in '80s for pig organs and whoknows nao

asciilifeform: iirc was split b/w 'grow udders' and 'god's wrath' variants

asciilifeform: famous pic

asciilifeform: i was somehow under impression that in those days ~errybody with a comp and a modem in ro regularly read mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is this re that time in old world where mircea_popescu drove commie 'poet' to death of drink ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dun thinkso

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yea olympus lives 4evah, but asciilifeform is making a serious stab at rolling with the http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2735 release calendar

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2753 , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2798 , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 for convenience. ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you want to link in dec. snsa broadcast, the nov '18 ch's are 12A, 12B, 13 .

asciilifeform: ( sad troof : sumtimes asciilifeform's lamp gets rubbed even on weekend, and he goes to grant wishes.. )

asciilifeform: trinque: i put a calendar slot orig for sat. dec 2 to test cuntoo, but it got stolen by saecular liquishit; sadly i'ma have to postpone until i get ch14

asciilifeform still carrying on with the promise given in ch1 , 'you oughta be able to eat a ch in ~1hour'. tho i do not know if succeeded to date, so far no one said how long it took'em to eat

asciilifeform: it's the 1 with the barrett proof.

asciilifeform: ( ch14 in particular, is the most algebra-heavy ch to date, and it's beginning to look like i'ma have to cut it in 2 as i did with ch 12 )

asciilifeform hands 100% full with ffa , presently

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877907 << my orig proof-of-concept v.py did not Do Right Thing on multiple branches in some tree shapes ( iirc phf orig discovered this effect, yrs ago ) , prolly i oughta rewrite the relevant piece , given as some folx other than asciilifeform apparently still want to use v.py ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: ( it's a reusable component, and i expect will appear elsewhere , so this is quite helpful )

asciilifeform: ( 'swallowing' is not mutually exclusive, necessarily, with supplying patches upstream to orig -- diana_coman , for instance, 'swallowed' ada-udp , but did also post patches for my tree, a+++ )

asciilifeform: my current understanding is that '1 genesis' regrind is when yer ready to 'swallow' a proggy into own project , and take over its maintenance with own hands ; 'history' is when regrinding own proggy, for manifestism/keccakism etc

asciilifeform: and guten morgen mircea_popescu !

asciilifeform: incidentally i still gotta keccak-regrind FG ( no one complained, but it still gotta be done )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877916 << to date we've had both types of regrind ( e.g. diana_coman reground 'mpi' into 1 genesis, for use in smg ; ffa on other hand had a 'history-preserving' regrind , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2743 ; and iirc mod6 is baking a 'history' regrind for trb ; diana_coman had 'history' regrind for eucrypt; and possibly i missed somebody in this list ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com << last update : nov. 2. which is a shame, imho these were a++ summaries

asciilifeform: !#seen esthlos

asciilifeform: wb mod6

asciilifeform: ( iirc you can now buy 'official' one in various places, 20 $ u.s. or so )

asciilifeform: spyked: keep in mind that to do almosg anything useful with the box, requires the http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2415 cable

asciilifeform: if you can build it, potentially quickest pill is to transplant the trad fs logic from uboot to it ( google's shitware demands that the kernel lie on a custom googlistic partition, and be 'signed' with their sad-rsa in custom format etc )

asciilifeform: ( theoretically theirs is 'open sores' but building it requires a multi-GB toolchain that i never succeeded in getting to run )

asciilifeform: what i never had time to bake is a working replacement for their faux-uboot thing.

asciilifeform: as for (1) , recall that i did find a partial break that lets operator 'debrick' ( flash bootloader via usb )

asciilifeform: ( the 'signing' shitware, that is )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877909 << (3) is potentially doable but will leave you marooned with one kernel, unless you have a second, similar box -- google's shitware is dynlinked and wont run under musltronic cuntoo ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform raged. hence prepared microscope slide with the thing in formaldehyde, for if anyone ever walks in bukovsky to link.. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i dun think i've ever encountered as pure a description of subj.

asciilifeform: noshit

asciilifeform: hole without doughnut, iirc is the technical term.

asciilifeform: moar or less whole b00k was specifically re futility of 'rezistenta prin cultura' .

asciilifeform: ( later on d00d did , what, 20yrs in various dungeons, got all kindsa connection. )

asciilifeform: it was good for 0, is what piece was about. wasn't even good enuff to get him collared, he had to make a new one for that.

asciilifeform: a+ entomological slide tho.

asciilifeform: 'let's organize!'

asciilifeform: or the oregon ranchers etc