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mircea_popescu: i'm also not going to start quiting parts of a settled discussion in response to arguments by ignorance.
mircea_popescu: i dun see how that follows, but neways.
asciilifeform: reminds me of this spec i have for antigrav car. just needs the antigravitron box and you're good to fly.
asciilifeform: the original didn't mention how to make 1024 chickens reliably pull plow.
mircea_popescu: i think you may have read it diagonally or somesuch.
asciilifeform: did i miss a sequel to mircea_popescu's essay re same ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, they have. it's called uci.
asciilifeform: iirc no one has yet proposed solution for 'we have 10,000,001 boxes that individually have uptime of 15 minutes per hour and often get reformatted when owner is tired of 'my winblowz is sloooow' '
mircea_popescu: the libertard thing is so self-parodic by now...
mircea_popescu: "the anti-defamation league addedpepe the frog to their database of hate symbols"
mircea_popescu: the "utility of junk boxes" is fully covered in republican literature. just gotta do the work.
asciilifeform: and the b0rk3d openssl appeared who knows where else.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yep raspbian, though that should have been after patch, but - who knows
asciilifeform: Framedragger: they are less useful, in my firsthand experience, than they appear
mircea_popescu: iirc they had a "lightweight" thing for raspberry-pis and such
Framedragger: (but seriously, may be interesting to at some point brainstorm useful applications of botnet...)
asciilifeform: the debian thing is moar interesting imho because - afaik - debian never appeared on 'things' junk routers etc. but generally on actual machines set up by hand
Framedragger: "bless you, internet of things, finally i can have my army"
Framedragger: asciilifeform: makes me want to try top 100 password lists on telnet/ssh/etc on the whole ipv4, you know
Framedragger: this is probably a one-to-one demonstration of some carder forum threads
asciilifeform brain still molten, FORFUCKSSAKE, THE debian 'bug'
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: kk. i'll print this on my business card
phf: i was sipping my morning tea, reading log wherein i discovered that log is down
mircea_popescu: (mine was resolving throughout, ftr :p)
mircea_popescu: phf cool deal. sorry for teh issues.
Framedragger: (btw google translate gives "All that is done is fault" which is rather metaphysical)
mircea_popescu: as an anonymous local derp pointed out in the timeless form of graffiti, "todo lo que hecho es culpa"
mircea_popescu: and also to put them to good use, i'm sure.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i mean, it would be a *crime* not to put them to good use, eh.
asciilifeform: we also have jurov's keys, and new sks sets, and who knows by then what else.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i have whole C blocks, if you can figure out way to use them.
Framedragger: 16-17M total maybe?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait a second. the ssh server keyset was only 2mn ?
mircea_popescu: well, davos, you know. what the fuck happens there, random pop stars go to lipsync now and again right ?
mircea_popescu: that's, by and large, more than his entire disposable income by integer factors.
mircea_popescu: which strongly selects for high value boxes. because random schmuck can't afford to pay his fucking car insurance for a decade straight. let alone A BOX
mircea_popescu: Framedragger systems that were probably live and untouched SINCE 2008. and will stay live and untouched.
Framedragger: and it's the end of twenty fucking sixteen, and bug was patched in 2008.
asciilifeform: soooo we nailed 1366 debianized keys, from 2941798 Framedragger parcel current total.
Framedragger: need a pool of IPs to circumvent fail2ban and similar throttlers, but absolutely doable.
Framedragger: in fact.. due to https://hdm.io/tools/debian-openssl/ correctly pointing out that "This flaw is ugly because even systems that do not use the Debian software need to be audited in case any key is being used that was created on a Debian system.", someone should attempt botnet-brute-login to all 13M+ (i forget lol) ssh hosts with rng-fucked client keys. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: buncha terrorists.
scriba: Logged on 2016-11-17: [15:40:00] <asciilifeform> btw everyone probably remembers this from the golden olden debian days, but these chumps tend to also have remote ssh login with debianized keyz
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161117/#508 << someone with time on their hands should write script to attempt logins at all of these with rng-fucked ssh keys (available at https://hdm.io/tools/debian-openssl/ i think though did not check, or re-gen themselves, shouldnt be hard)!
mircea_popescu: shinohai or those with tits too small, in any case.
shinohai: I'm sure she is, I thought the scowl was professional. To keep the weak people away.
mircea_popescu: phf applied. lemme know if needs new or different, i'll change them np.
asciilifeform: l0l, they stole & cloned hanbot ?!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/el-gueto-donde-hay-gatas/ << Trilema - El Gueto. Donde Hay Gatas.
phf: mircea_popescu: not sure if this is going to work, but try putting ns1.digitalocean.com. ns2.digitalocean.com. ns3.digitalocean.com.
asciilifeform: ' ipinfo: 222.161.13.59, No Hostname, Changchun, Jilin, CN, 43.8800,125.3228, AS4837 CNCGROUP China169 Backbone ' << lel, buncha these
mircea_popescu: what ns would you like me to use ?
phf: seem to be, doing dig btcbase.org @ns-usa.topdns.com directly returns empty record
mircea_popescu: are the ns wrong ?
mircea_popescu: because hey, why do we have these idiots if not to bother and disturb.
mircea_popescu: i think registrar switch trashed records or some other passive-agressive idiocy
asciilifeform: ah hm so i was wrong to assume that i nailed the box with last night's atrocities
mircea_popescu: phf i don't expect lost, but there seems to be some wtf with the dns
mircea_popescu: i think i was hosting it for him.
asciilifeform: phf: i thought it was yours..?
phf: mircea_popescu: did we lose btcbase.org domain? dig doesn't resolve it to anything
asciilifeform: most of planet does at this point, even ex-su countries
mircea_popescu: holy shit they actually have an ip gate for the old trunked phonelines ?
asciilifeform: btw everyone probably remembers this from the golden olden debian days, but these chumps tend to also have remote ssh login with debianized keyz
mircea_popescu: at least the bot is QUICK, we've established that much.
asciilifeform: then again i have nfi re the accuracy, my source is the geo-estimator kako added to his log...
mircea_popescu: ah i guess that's it, i didn't look at the right segment. these ARE ips after all, they're not geodistributed evenly.
asciilifeform: (over-represented in the earlier pops in fact)
asciilifeform: everyone from arctic circle to patagonia, appears.
mircea_popescu: not that much... china.
asciilifeform: i dun see any regional gaps in there, with naked eye.
mircea_popescu: exactly like the germans, really.
mircea_popescu: yeah. the latino 3rd worlders are high on "open source" without understanding much of it / the context.
mircea_popescu: kinda the problem with rss and in general with pull-notify : the polling interval is a magic number.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger yeah whenever deedbot polls it gets the last 10. but in that interval the rss could have updated 500 times even
Framedragger: i take it feed is truncated due to rss / whatever - the actual amounts are much larger
mircea_popescu: we certainly see the wisdom of phf's graying out the bot.
shinohai: Phuctor is all happy this morning I see
mircea_popescu: you're the right guy to ask, because the provider rss should give out real data, but to spit out in the channel because of line limit rules you're excused to shorten.
mircea_popescu: trinque can deedbot rss parsing be unprincipledly altered so that any succession of alphanum characters in excess of 16 spaces is replaced with first4[...]last4 ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
Framedragger: (though, iirc github removed shitty ssh client keys - don't recall when jurov collected them, i think he mentioned this)
Framedragger: btw, afaik lots of ssh *client* keys got generated this way. soo, ssh client key dump should be interesting... and it can also be used to, you know, directly own boxes.
mircea_popescu: and if experience has taught us anything, it's that when discussing concrete crypto implementations "theoretically possible" means something like "it's theoretically possible leonardo de caprio's new girlfriend will also get dumped when she turns 25."
asciilifeform: i would leave out the 'q' but it is theoretically possible that these will pop non-debian keyz...
mircea_popescu: originally it was "oh whatever, it'll pop 0-epsilon, you can do those by hand. if you even have anything to do."
asciilifeform: then we would not have to 'q'.
mircea_popescu: alf has finally found a way to spam the chan that won't have him send cents to tipjar.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ya, aware of that. no revenue from bitcoin business yet tho :p
Framedragger: (and on a side note, "hang out on #trilema after splitting with gf" has been one of the more constructive choices i've made in my life) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Framedragger hey, there's the republican tax, look into that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't, not really. as pissed off as i/anyone can be, "What I currently see as best option is to actually comment out those 2 lines of code. But I have no idea what effect this really has on the RNG. The only effect I see is that the pool might receive less entropy. But on the other hand, I'm not even sure how much entropy some unitialised data has. What do you people think about removing those 2 lines of code?
Framedragger: if i end up with any consultling work due to phuctor at some point in the future i'll commit to sharing some of the profitz lol. this is good stuff. which reminds me, is "We expect to add a detailed product page to the website" still happening? i'm just super curious
mircea_popescu: who you know, is ALSO on the "openssl team", where he does the exact same thing.
mircea_popescu: with a link to "Kurt Roeckx is a contemptible shithead" article i hope.
mircea_popescu: phuctor, that improbable playground that just keeps right on giving.
asciilifeform: eventually i'ma add word 'debian' to the 'notes' field on these.
Framedragger: cool. (no hurries as i'm busy with stuff till next ~wednesday anyway)
mircea_popescu: well not really, he just needs to discard everything prior to yest night
Framedragger: asciilifeform: does your script pull out only these debian-bullet-fucked moduli? would be nice to be able to distinguish in the-db-which-im-gonna-put-them-in
mircea_popescu: almost like they're playing trilema-quotes the TCD.