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Framedragger: i guess #trilema helps with bootstrapping
the WoT, so
there's
that
gabriel_laddel: Framedragger: fuck participating in
the usg web / github / CC economy etc.
☟︎☟︎ gabriel_laddel: Framedragger:
the way I want people
to get masamune is "have
to know a guy"
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: why did you
take gabriel-laddel.github.io/system.html offline (just curious)? (it's still in google cache.) decided it'd be not as easy
to commercialize? :p
gabriel_laddel: which whatever, can do
this if it'd make stas happy until recovery.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: sure, but I'd be generating a key on something
that regularly connects
to
the internet.
mircea_popescu: but ironically, YOU don't want
to v until
the code's done anyway and put it all in root. so...
gabriel_laddel: I've not generated a new one because it cannot be done securely due
to nonsense in my life right now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not even sure
there's a better place
to do something of
the scale of "clim computer"
than low security us jail.
mircea_popescu: anyway.
the republic isn't poor. but it is very fucking difficult
to get proper leverage applied.
☟︎ phf: presumably he doesn't have a key, because
there's no openpgp implementation in common lisp...
mircea_popescu: this is all very
time-convenient
though. because : SEE Framedragger ? SEE ? how about now ? huh ? hm ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel make a corp already ; it's like fiddy bux, can be done online,
then you can be
the officer get bank accounts deposit cash get warehouse rented sleep
there.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i hear ya, i'm interested
to
take a peek at
the
thing,
tho.
phf sold a handful of asterisk + sbcl boxes in
the past
phf: people
that i know who own property in sf are of deep imperial alignment,
they would be proper horrified of
tmsr and its rhetoric
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: and you don't have a linux distro
to sell.
mircea_popescu: i literally know no one in sf who owns real estate it
turns out.
this is mindboggling, how
the fuck can
the land values be so high! fucking chinese own it all ? aliens ?
mircea_popescu: myeah. he does live in
the ground 0 of
the bomb of
that
though.
mircea_popescu: apparently all he wants is coding support and
the extant lisp curmudgeons disapprove of his (evidently adolescentine)
technological choices.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it's unclear so far how
this fellow can be helped, so if you come up with something...
mircea_popescu: nah,
there's
the retiring kind and
the executed kind of admiral.
☟︎ phf: did
they just drop you into
the enemy planet without
the mothership
tether??
trinque: mircea_popescu: he'll have a hundred bux for
teh candy
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: i don't have much free
time now, either. maybe end of next week, at
this rate. re. CLIM web - any notes / writeup
to help? as in, 20min of your
time
to save some hours of my
time while helping you?
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: phf:
the "bright CLIM future" doesn't have html/css/js/ any parsing at all in it.
phf: well, yeah, i'm sure it bitrotted by now, but how much work is it
to revive? i kind of have it in
the back of my mind for
the bright clim future..
gabriel_laddel: phf: anyways, I only
think we'll be using
the browser as a
tool
to suck information out of into CLIM in
the near future.
mircea_popescu: fucking loony
tunes collection over here.
that guy doesn't
trust anything or like anything ;
that other guy wants
to cook while running around
the streets of mosul. isn't
there anyone in
this god damned republic
that is sane ?
gabriel_laddel: Framedragger: if you want
to do something useful, build
the CLIM web I've described inbetween here and gossipd.
mircea_popescu: yes but
this situation is not stable. either you get out of
there or you get credit cards and whatnot.
gabriel_laddel: Framedragger:
the infrastructure needed is somewhere
to put
them
though. I have machines sitting in stanford's graphics lab (cameras everywhere)
that will eventually host
the IRC channel, but have nowhere
to put
them
that isn't USG.NSA.YC.
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: possible
to ship x220's
to US for you? not
that i'm committing as of now.
there are nice refurbished ones here in UK
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: 1. he can fly 2. he can do something useful for
tsmr~ == get
the CLIM-web
thing up and running inbetween here and gossipd
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel how does
this relate
to having someone drive all
the way from canada
to hand you laptops ?
gabriel_laddel: anyways,
that's pretty much it. I fucking hate all
the companies out here and won't capitulate == me has
to sell masamune and do one-off jobs for cash.
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: also, apologies for not checking logs.
the question naturally springs
to mind, so
to speak
Framedragger: mircea_popescu:
ties into (naive or not) hawala discussions, i guess...
gabriel_laddel: you are not getting any younger, and unless you want your healthcare running on intel/windows -- masamune is
the only way forwards.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger note
that
there isn't any serious "bitcoin invoicing"
thing. you can have a "take customer;'s bitcoin and give me fiatola",
there's 500x of
those.
there's NO "take customer's fiatola and give me btc"
gabriel_laddel: speaking of infrastructure, and
the lack of it, one of you who isn't doing anything useful (eg, pete) should come out
to CA and give me some boxes
to work with.
Framedragger: trinque's invoice
thing may come useful. but
then,
there's more space
to bridge, such as
the vast gap between person who wants
to buy useful item and person spending coins from
trb so can pay invoice....
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "here's
the shopify page, now it's legit
to pay 700" ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but as a more general
thing, re earlier discussion. bitcoin has 0 infrastructure, just a bunch of dorkage.
gabriel_laddel: for some reason
they can't comprehend
things unless it comes on
top of js/shopify/something familiar
mircea_popescu: Framedragger he's a fine example actually. has a fucking "shopify"
thing because...well ? idiots want my cc. what's he
to do, practically, "dude don't checkout with paypal but instead..."
gabriel_laddel: Framedragger: and it is integrated into
the lisp environment via a socket connection.
gabriel_laddel: Framedragger:
The browser, conkeror has all
the same keybindings as emacs.
mircea_popescu: this guy needs a girlfriend stat. preferably a ho
that comprehends
the points about infrastructure.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: no passport, but
that sounds like a plan.
gabriel_laddel: the new comcast boxes are shit and I can't even connect
to
them from linux whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: listen, you gotta fix your infrastructure
this is ridiculous already.
Framedragger: i still don't understand how much of a browser replacement it is. interesting,
tho. what does gabriel_laddel mean, "can gmail"? => can javascript?
Framedragger: (wait
there's an x220 with 'tablet' / screen-turning mode?)