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mircea_popescu: look. i dunno what set of assumptions/convictions/determinations of fact you're operating under ehre, but to be plain, the situation as observed from my chair is as follows :
asciilifeform: (and i meant MY zip, as in what came out of my wall plug, and not what-mircea_popescu-got-from-curl)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 03:00 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1598945 << afaik the problem of how to archive remains open. i've though about truly dr.mengele-grade solutions: e.g., spin up os-cum-graphic-wwwbrowser in emulator, capture the rendered payload as bitmap, then destroy the universe, each time. treat www as nintendo rom!
phf: fwiw i wouldn't say they are "trapped". as i don't think they care about anything else. they don't keep up to date with microsoft modern and bestest. they still release ms stack software with xp compatibility for example
asciilifeform: it is especially entertaining to asciilifeform that this was brought up, because in so far as i can tell the entire masamune thing is precisely an instance thereof, in its domain.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1598770 << Dust kills computer fans as well. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: hah fml my v implementation presses into the same directory as that as which contains the patches and seals
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1598911 << apparently while i slept in my cave, jp went down the same toilet as everybody else: honda had a ~firmware bug~ recall recently , power steering controller crashed while in motion, users instructed to reboot motherfucking auto! on roadside ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu proposed this as a somewhat cleaner solution to the vectored-sig problem
asciilifeform: it was about folks like asciilifeform having multiple keys that are used for different things, but wot-connected as if they were people
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 03:00 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1598945 << afaik the problem of how to archive remains open. i've though about truly dr.mengele-grade solutions: e.g., spin up os-cum-graphic-wwwbrowser in emulator, capture the rendered payload as bitmap, then destroy the universe, each time. treat www as nintendo rom!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1598945 << afaik the problem of how to archive remains open. i've though about truly dr.mengele-grade solutions: e.g., spin up os-cum-graphic-wwwbrowser in emulator, capture the rendered payload as bitmap, then destroy the universe, each time. treat www as nintendo rom! ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: *as in sega
mircea_popescu: no, this'd be different ; that was about adding references ~in the files~ as comments ; this is about the patches (ie, diffs)
pete_dushenski: " << doesn't quite jive with mackenzie's experience as to the availability of coders but gotta sow the seeds of propaganda that 'japan is falling behind' when in fact seiko, toyota, yonex, panasonic, and more are all leading their fields globally
pete_dushenski: !~later tell gabriel_laddel_p "what do you think of the recent porsche cayennes?" << if you're thinking of one as a residence, i could see it.
ben_vulpes: also if you'd be so kind as to add http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2017_cleanup.vpatch to your tree i'd be much obliged. if the hopper is working again just let me know and i'll dump vpatches in there
mircea_popescu: mod6 as friend once said, "solitary confinment is just great - i take one just about every time i go to the john."
mircea_popescu: boat is never as cramped as when the four resident girls get their cramps.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 21:39 Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: i don't have much free time now, either. maybe end of next week, at this rate. re. CLIM web - any notes / writeup to help? as in, 20min of your time to save some hours of my time while helping you?
Framedragger: ("supposed" and "putting this together" is really stretching it, but i agree that "hey i didn't commit to anything" is a really shitty attitude, of the same kind as "i hacked up loggotron but it's bad lol")
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: instead of having "web applications" we have a +v, invite only irc channel where our CL programs communicate. Well-formed messages are treated as FTP endpoints to download arbitrary information.
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: anyways, I have suggested using a +v irc channel + CL-FTP + beirc as a "CLIM-web" so we can ditch the browser tomorrow
gabriel_laddel_p: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598709< jesus fuck. I somehow misread this as anything other than "deadline". ☝︎
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-06#1597346 << 09:13:20 adlai | one could argue a lot of things, such as "miners should voluntarily reduce the block size, to drive up fees, and then increase the block ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 20:48 mircea_popescu: anyway, entertaining the thing as you describe at face value : if indeed your concern is a sort of bastardization as conceptually constructible from the foregoing, then the correct move is to build your masamune on musl and attach a license that forbids the empire (such as for instance the trb license ; or else one stating to use must be in l2, or rated by you, or any such thing). this will mostly protect you both technically
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: something like that. There are a whole slew of issues: the init that Martin ships works fine, but if I substitute my own init - breaks. Among a million other things I have don't understand, such as
mircea_popescu: oh, as in dependency hell ?
mircea_popescu: might be ~same as the above musl, i suppose on a curated gentoo.
mircea_popescu: anyway, entertaining the thing as you describe at face value : if indeed your concern is a sort of bastardization as conceptually constructible from the foregoing, then the correct move is to build your masamune on musl and attach a license that forbids the empire (such as for instance the trb license ; or else one stating to use must be in l2, or rated by you, or any such thing). this will mostly protect you both technically ☟︎
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: you want someone among the people here to work as your sales rep ? or wat
gabriel_laddel_p: No? Because now Masamune exists and we can begin to address the other issues (such as x86) like adults?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: for so long as the x86 idiocy persists, this will remain.
asciilifeform: phf: no rush, it is not as if we had a chip fab in which to make clones, or even particularly want to make clone (i have 0 interest in perpetuating 20 years of mit undergrad young cocklet crapolade code)
phf: i'm treating it as an avocation, so i'm resigned to glacier speeds that all these people require
asciilifeform: i have that paper. it was ~2pgs and about as useful as their sales brochure.
phf: (he i think published another paper on the subject of making lisp cpus, but with smbx as his @)
asciilifeform: iirc one of the 'death of symbolics' treatises went on at length about the follow of them NOT having made any attempt to market their chip synthesis stack as a commercial offering
asciilifeform: as the scheme83 chip was never put into commercial production and afaik existed never more than in handful qty.
asciilifeform: phf: i excavated my binder and found the item you had just linked. where dpl is described in approx same level of detail as eurisko's 'rtl' was in the lenatleaks thing. but i am now beginning to suspect that it got 'symbolicsized', e.g., subsumed into the properties they licensed from mit
mircea_popescu: phf and the effect is especially negative when the girl overdoes the make-up lines, as some girls do.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of canticle : anyone looking to write a sf piece in the a c clarke vein willing to model what'd happen if a lead comet the size of ceres showed up on a slow orbit ? at first, comet observed somewhere past kuipier belt, it's slow and dim. then, is it a comet or an asteroid ? then, measurements indicate it's much too dense. then, in timescales ever narrowing, its orbit turns out to be unsafe. then, as it collapses
mircea_popescu: nice. so as an example, my first task would be to figure out how to instruct it to respond to messages only if there've been less than 12 lines spoken the past 15 minutes. that sort of thing.
ben_vulpes: oh then it'd work for you as-is
ben_vulpes: let's say 2 btc, and that'll cover the patch to record all protocol lines as well
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 15:19 mircea_popescu: and entirely unrelatedly : anyone willing to stand up an irc bot for me (as a service for hire deal) and expose some kind of programmable interface that can read messages to it, process and push out a reply ? bonus points if i don't have to learn crazy-shitstick-"$modernlanguage".
trinque: it could be said that insofar as the CL standard does not specify a machine, it is drastically incomplete
mircea_popescu: in practice i come to understand now, after thousands of articles / years blogging, that in fact the frontend to a blog should really be as close to a... vdiff patch! as practicable.
mircea_popescu: so lisp exists, as a factual matter.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you probably know this but each post has an rss feed for its comments as well
mircea_popescu: there's both the profiling of large db indexes stored as ext4 or xfs ; and the implementing of the fabulous mp hash in asm and cycle counting it.
mircea_popescu: and entirely unrelatedly : anyone willing to stand up an irc bot for me (as a service for hire deal) and expose some kind of programmable interface that can read messages to it, process and push out a reply ? bonus points if i don't have to learn crazy-shitstick-"$modernlanguage". ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 14:47 deedbot: 6FD9603CAEDCB7638EFBE9D115F6BC08DC5EC056 registered as netmonk.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 15:02 deedbot: 6FD9603CAEDCB7638EFBE9D115F6BC08DC5EC056 registered as netmonk.
deedbot: 6FD9603CAEDCB7638EFBE9D115F6BC08DC5EC056 registered as netmonk. ☟︎
trinque: mircea_popescu: however gpg does; I'm just passing it as argument to --recv-key
deedbot: 6FD9603CAEDCB7638EFBE9D115F6BC08DC5EC056 registered as netmonk. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "In 2008, the three broadcast networks, in their nightly news programs, devoted over the entire year a total of three hours and 40 minutes to issues reporting (defined as independent coverage of election issues, not arising from candidate statements or debates). In 2016, that plummeted to a grand total of just 36 minutes."
mircea_popescu: (of course as far as the spec goes, the bot saves archive.is + base64 blobs of all pages, so there is that, as inconvenient as it is)
ben_vulpes: http://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/?single=1 << "Moreover, we need not dismiss out of hand as totally parochial or mean-spirited the desire of Yankee Americans to maintain an ethnically and religiously homogeneous society nor the particular Protestant commitments to individualism and freedom that were brought into play."
pete_dushenski: i have one of those on my desk in front of me, as it happens. ratios between 100:1 and 500:1.
mircea_popescu: for as long as one entertains even faint delusions that who knows, packard is maybe a person too, that "coreboot" retarded, what's her name, is maybe human like we are, that gavin or hearn have mothers and fathers and children and smell roses rather than you know, dwelling in rats nests like the rats they are and come out of ootheca like any other kitchen cockroach - for as long as that delusion is even vaguely present it's n
asciilifeform: 'I’ll start with the hard part: As of today, we are reducing our team by about one third — eliminating 50 jobs, mostly in sales, support, and other business functions. ' << they SOLD SOMETHING?!
asciilifeform: he probably has same attitude re subj as mircea_popescu re flying airplanes.
mircea_popescu: they are trained to pursue their intellectual preoccupations at the expense of "everything else", which is fine for as long as it's the fat on their belly, but is not fine once they start chiseling away the spine.
asciilifeform: was presented as 'unfortunate accident' and astonishing number of supposedly 'thinking' people ate it up.
mircea_popescu: dopes ok as computer forensics consultant.
mircea_popescu: rich murphey ? he didn't get "hired" by intel from redhat and didn't get to work on debian and didn't get invited by oreilly to eat rubber chicken so he doesn't exist as per wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: it is also eerily reminiscent of "political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single"
mircea_popescu: this, ftr, is how x.org was born (of which guy is now lead, and which is as dead as we all recall)
mircea_popescu: "In 2011, O'Reilly awarded an open source award to Packard, as "the person behind most of the improvements made on the open source desktop in the last ten years at least.""
asciilifeform: context of the XFree86 Core Team, which makes his membership of that team unviable. As a consequence, Keith Packard is no longer a member of the XFree86 Core Team.'
trinque: I will be happy to continue this discussion as comments in my blog in near future
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well as i understood criticism from trinque was 'stop measuring with your arse, gotta have objective metric'
mircea_popescu: but this discussion would definitely benefit from clear domain definition and numeric measurements, as trinque well points out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your proposed benchmark wouldn't touch anything that can be described as clim
asciilifeform: it's about geometric grinding to halt as the working set grows
mircea_popescu: trinque q was more as to how long it takes.
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as ~algorithmically dog slow~ design
trinque: mircea_popescu: the hash wouldn't slow anybody down because I'd be hashing in one thread, updating UI with results in another as they pop out
trinque: can certainly be more sanely framed as "finishing climacs"
trinque: I emphatically do not want anyone telling me how to run gentoo when I've been doing so myself almost as long as it has existed.
mircea_popescu: i know but why would you use the ssh client as a text editor
mircea_popescu: that it crashes your ssh client, gains control of your box as the user that ran it, escalates it to root privilege, installs a rootkit that you can't take out without throwing out the mobo + hdd and disappears in a puff of smoke.
asciilifeform: imho that qualified as actual invention.
asciilifeform: ( i could be wrong about this, but yc seems to be quite the same chumpatron today as it was decade ago )
asciilifeform: how not ? d00d's never, sadly , so much as smelled jail
asciilifeform: 'While Kraken users watched the price drop, most of us could only watch in disbelief as our orders were not processed.'
mircea_popescu: yeah amd went the way of gaddafi even as intel went the way of obama.
mircea_popescu: as i somehow doubt you spent 2k to build that box in 2009.
asciilifeform: and yeah lappy is to actual comp as sapper's spade is to excavator.
asciilifeform: if you buy ddr3 you may as well stuff it full of 'xeon'
asciilifeform: as for the crapple, it has roughly half of the cpu horse as dulap.
mircea_popescu: in other "muslim invasion" lulz : http://ask.fm/QueennnNAL ; now we play the game where you find me aryan malmo resident as hawt.
ben_vulpes: i'm not particularly bent about the sorting, 'twas simply what made me look at the linked stanzas in curiosity. curious about "what of it", as you say.
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing it as a solution ; i'm not even sure exactly what you're talking about. just lulzing to self.
mircea_popescu: ah not at all as advocacy.
ben_vulpes: not inverted, as far as i can tell it's a fine place in the flow for it to be. i'm a bit discomfited, and am poking an old thread about "release vpatches" that seems to have surfaced unexplainedly in the makefiles vpatch
mircea_popescu: but as to the other thing, i'm not sure i follow. your v inverted patch flow ?
BingoBoingo: In so far as many magnetic studfinders can tell, galvanized pipe and emt conduit are promising places to drill and screw