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mircea_popescu: though
this is a decent sf premise, imagine if nanotech allows one
to drill implants into each neuron
phf: jack parsons blowing himself up has similar
thread of mystical and paranoid interpretations
mircea_popescu: and i have yet
to see people who altered
their neurons prior
to doping.
mircea_popescu: "no doubt it was a hit by
the anti-tea-gasoline lobby because he knew
too much"
mircea_popescu: the stuff
that gave us strega and campari and whatnot. "secret family recipe. blessed by pope! 500 plants!"
mircea_popescu: no but i mean, something equivalent
to
the fortified wine / bitter craze of
the 1700/1800s.
phf: mircea_popescu: it exists! with diesel from
trash crowd
mircea_popescu: like... camomille is good for reducing wear and mint is good for you know,
that extra kick uphill
mircea_popescu: they could have a web forum dedicated
to debating formulas...
mircea_popescu: come
to
think about it, i find it deeply regrettable
that fuel
teas aren't fashionable. imagine, if people actualyl did plant mix decoctions
to mix in
their gas
tanks.
phf: this goes back
to
the whole computer as an intelligence augmentation
thread we had
mircea_popescu: wtf, a crane is like 100 bux an hour already. why
throw cars.
mircea_popescu: if only
the exxon people had
thought
to mix mountain berries and chalk powder into
the damned
thing. but
the anti-berry lobby is keeping a lid on
things.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 19:08 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575840 << he will no doubt be less
than pleased
to hear
that i can / historically have stayed up for days at a stretch because i wanted
to. it's all in
the brain, man!
mircea_popescu: trinque
try as i might i fail
to see self-administered medication in any better light
than self-mixed gasoline. "oh, my fuel mix gives me much better power and gas mileage". meanwhile derp drives a fucking honda and has an evil eye pendant dangling from
the rear view mirror.
trinque: but whatever, we can have
two sanitarium-goers
mircea_popescu: "mice were found in germany which is a country
that once invaded
the soviet union where lenin introduced electricity which goes
through
tubes in which
tubes
today in england most mices live." "OH NOW IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE!!!"
☟︎☟︎ trinque: mircea_popescu: aha, and
the dope runs heavy risk of false-positive "did something useful out of character"
mircea_popescu: for a while a very popular ~tv format~ was
this string of factoids going in a sort of free association from a noun back again
to it.
the whole
thing read
too fast and with "bbc noises" in
the background (you know
the idiocy, chimes intended
to propose
THE IMPORTANT IS OCCURING!)
mircea_popescu: (which is why
the whole "nobody could have predicted" is such an endearingly stupid exercise in ignorance pleading, but whatevers)
mircea_popescu: that ~nobody wants
to notice~ is
the very point. yes, once
the spot on
the sleeve is pointed out it stands out. and before it wasn't
there.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 18:57
trinque: when
this occurred, I changed my perspective.
to not do so is insanity.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575841 << yes, but
this is not really what's discussed here. obviously when you grok something you grok something. but in order
to get yourserlf
to where you grok something, you invariably have
to do something "out of character".
there has
to be some pressure. "and at
that moment x was enlightened" specifically says "x abused himself
to
the point of", but nobody wants
to notice.
☝︎ mod6: and
the shop link is on
there.
mod6: so now, i see
that 'nosuchlabs.com' homepage is
the 'fuckgoats' page -- no middle finger
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 18:57
trinque:
this dope
topic is a perfect example. I was making a similar "psychedelics open your mind, man" argument a year or
two ago, and mp
thoroughly
trashed
the argument.
mircea_popescu: trinque it has
to be so ; so as
to prevent
the reality-representation
tandem from going into positive feedback.
trinque: when you encounter
the
truth, it better flip bits in your skull, or you are broken.
this includes "I must build/learn/etc X"
mod6: and btw, i get a 401 auth required when
trying
to hit: www.nosuchlabs.com
trinque: when
this occurred, I changed my perspective.
to not do so is insanity.
☟︎ trinque: this dope
topic is a perfect example. I was making a similar "psychedelics open your mind, man" argument a year or
two ago, and mp
thoroughly
trashed
the argument.
☟︎ mod6: doesn't seem
to resolve
the issue. but w/e. less people in line in front of me!
mod6: ooooh. i see what
the problem was.
the homepage doesn't have a link
to 'shop'. after clicking on 'the real bitcoin' link,
then was
taken
to
that page, where a 'shop' link exists.
phf: trinque: all voracious learners i know eventually hit
the point, where acquiring knowledge/skill requires significant amount of self abuse.
the kind of abuse in question is
the actual, physical pain
that you experience in your head, when for example
trying
to grok math analysis. only people who never experienced
that are jacks of all
trades who bail before
that point (or mythical genuises who never hit
their limits before death, i know
trinque: gabriel_laddel_p: k, now describe
the iterated case.
gabriel_laddel_p: both substances allow you
to remain lucid after a long
time with little sleep
mod6: I aquired a box, so was just gonna re-read some of
the stuff and place an order later
tonight.
mod6: asciilifeform: did you guys
take down
the order form for fuckgoats?
gabriel_laddel_p: bly socialize with prior
to getting a new place
to crash / drop masamunes off.
gabriel_laddel_p: I should have been a little more specific earlier re: why cocaine in particular, or meth (in particular) would be useful IN MY SITUATION. I
think it would be useful when you find yourself on a forced march in
the sense
that you MUST stay awake for a few hours longer
than you normally would have, perhaps on
the company of people who you should proba
trinque: how can
that be so when it implies an infinite regression of models of his world
trinque: I am
trying
to digest
the perspective
that one must beat himself
to behave according
to his own model of reality, subjectively.
mircea_popescu: none of
this is much more
than observing
that you know, "in
theory
there's no difference between
theory and practice..." ie,
the represented difference between representation and reality reduces
to a representation.
mircea_popescu: consider
the illustrative case of physics. newtonian mechanics (representation structured as representation) is valuable because a) it works in representative
terms, ie, math and b) matches observable reality. but
there is no objective relation between a and b, which is why science fiction can exist for instance ; and also why
the only
thing
that can be said about nm is
that it's ... not correct.
trinque: it is a strange creature
that resists learning, or work.
trinque: I was
the kid who voraciously wanted
to learn, ended up
tiring of starving, went wandering in
the woods for food.
mircea_popescu: trinque
the structure of representation qua representation does not particularly match
the structure of reality qua reality.
trinque: asciilifeform: what is
this external
thing
that
the brain wont go along with willingly?
mircea_popescu: the recent
trilema byline about mediocrity conversely states "there is no perversity other
than
thinking"
mircea_popescu: brain is not reasoning engine in
the sense rectum is not vagina.
mircea_popescu: the sad fact of
the matter is
that
the brain is not a reasoning engine. in a very purely naturalistic, bio-logical way,
this is sensible.
the practice of "talk
to
the
text, not context or subtext" has become established
through moo practice
☟︎ mircea_popescu: he doesn't even realise
that
this is moo-ing for moo-ers, not discourse for people.
mircea_popescu: and consequently : he simply does not want it
to be a discussion about
that, so he doesn't mention it.
mircea_popescu: not even.
they assume
that everyone's an imbecile, and
therefore will discuss what's said. so if
they
tell you about
the money
they spent you'll discuss money spent and if
they
tell you about his abs you'll discuss abs.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 17:41 asciilifeform: i find it interesting
that
the authors of
these (and
there are many) virtually never mention even approx. ~what~
their 'super
team' of 'super people' was DOING
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 01:42 shinohai:
This may be
the best story I have seen all day: Former gay porn actor
turned German spy arrested for secretly being a Jihadist
http://archive.is/9SQqY deedbot: mircea_popescu rated gabriel_laddel_p 1 << Crazed Cali Kid, but at least banging his head against a goldmine rather
than a brick wall.
mircea_popescu: !!rate gabriel_laddel_p 1 Crazed Cali Kid, but at least banging his head against a goldmine rather
than a brick wall.
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: I'm going
to recover my old key, sign
this one.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel_p so is
this actually going
to be your key or are you gonna lose it in six weeks ?
ben_vulpes: lol what is
that a lisp predicate joke gabriel_laddel_p ?
trinque: and he was just about
to win
the war, even!
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: it is
the poor modern americans resynthesis of
the original coke + booze cocktails
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: or even more dilute,
through a whole cocktail