asciilifeform: hanbot: friends - sure. (though they are still your friends, presumably, over telegraph)
asciilifeform: hanbot: with the exception of hereditary peasants, bound to the soil, etc - can't picture who is attached to the 'place' per se
asciilifeform: hanbot: dare i ask, what did you personally let go of.
asciilifeform: hanbot: if you meant luxuries - cars, houses, etc. - americans are having a fine time 'letting go' of these, with a little help from an imploding economy and hungry creditors...
asciilifeform: hanbot: if you've the time - elaborate. which things ought people let go of ?
asciilifeform: most people in usa understand that no one, across any ocean, is holding his breath waiting for them.
asciilifeform: punkman: i personally don't know anyone in love with the geography. but people do get attached to food, shelter.
asciilifeform: folks who actually want to escape from -everything-... fellate their pistols. a more selective solution - takes finesse and resources.
asciilifeform: -- also you will need to remove little embedded shrapnel of X from inside your head. this may be the hardest part for some people. visit, e.g, Brooklyn, New York to see what failure looks like here.
asciilifeform: problem of escape is also usefully divisible into two distinct sub-problems - how to get out of X, and how to find Y such that you can eat there and avoid whatever it was that you weren't so fond of at X.
asciilifeform: basic mechanics of escape from a gravity well - and of escape from a country - are very similar, i dare say. you need sufficient energy (usually in the form of hard currency, but can be some unusual substitute like familial, mob, or military 'in
asciilifeform: (if i had answer, i'd be posting 'best of buenos aires restaurants' photos along with mircea_popescu)
asciilifeform: bounce: 'if you gotta ask, answer is no' or something like that.
asciilifeform: hanbot: or whether folks sentenced to sit on a stake should get oiled or not oiled stake.
asciilifeform: hanbot: this is reminiscent of the debate regarding whether folks being burned at the stake should or should not get a little sack of gunpowder to wear around their neck
asciilifeform: 'usaschwitz' should be understood to mean all of nato and quasi-nato u.s. colonies.
asciilifeform: there's an interesting set of legal precedents in usa, invalidating any and all concept of sex contract (consent can be withdrawn, e.g., five minutes... 'in' - and thereby, retroactively, if you like, because 'i cancelled five minutes in, in my head, after that it was a rape') etc.
asciilifeform: unfortunately the only pill against the problem is: suitcase, airplane, new (non-usaschwitz) passport.
asciilifeform: the 'sex contract' app may be lame - but there's an actual market for solving actual problem there.
asciilifeform: single-party << usa had this, in multi-muppet mode, for years.
asciilifeform: teaching to follow directions and doing a maliciously-selected but eminently-reasonable thing - easy.
asciilifeform: point being, a small (biomass-wise, in the count of active participants) malicious agenda goes a long way coupled with great quantity of passive (non-malicious executors) biomass.
asciilifeform: malice - expensive? sure. only in the sense an arsonist's ir laser to torch 'reichstag' from 10km away is expensive. the fuel for the fire - 'watershed management' or whatever idiocy of the day - is cheap.
asciilifeform: leotreasure getting stolen from << lol, so that's an 'event' ? squirrel run over on my street, also 'event' ?
asciilifeform: so it's really a proxy word, like 'mikado' (door to throne room) in japan, or 'the crown' in english world
asciilifeform: гулаг == главное управление лагерей и мест заключения ~= 'main management of camps and places of confinement.'
asciilifeform: incidentally, interesting to examine etymology of gulag
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik, no serious bloat or otherwise objectionable item was introduced between 7 and 9 (unless you really hate colour display)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why they picked OS 9 and not... 7 << 9 is the end of that line, wtf would you want with 7
asciilifeform also remembers thinking 'doesn't kodak corp. have most of the supply, not jpm'
asciilifeform: PeterL: inspector walks in with the 17-inch barrel, and says 'you are also guilty of falsifying records, since your records do not show that you made this'
asciilifeform: you: 'i wanted a belousov–zhabotinsky reaction.' judge: 'you want chemisty - go to a store.' you: 'can't buy in a store' judge:
asciilifeform: owns beaker? terrorist. all that remains is for inquisitor to establish what naughty substance you were making (or intended to make - separate article in penal code)☟︎
asciilifeform: this is roughly the situation with organic chemistry in usa, and has been for many years
asciilifeform: in fact, this logically applies to anyone known to own the required tools for manufacturing illegal widgets
asciilifeform: they can force you to do or say absolutely anything - say, borrow your wife, or whatnot.
asciilifeform: since law is whatever they say it is, and they can trot out whatever piece of hardware and say it came from your conveyor,
asciilifeform: just seems like you're at the total mercy of the crown, if you're a legal (registered) small-arms whatever-business.
asciilifeform: but what if your refuse to break the laws, and inspector helpfully buys your 18 and cuts it in his office.
asciilifeform: that's tame compared to the gedankenexperiment. ordinary 'entrapment.'
asciilifeform: inspector: 'libelling a loyal servant of the crown. extra jail points!'
asciilifeform: you: 'it was 18. you sawed it off at fbi headquarters.'
asciilifeform: no, think about the hypothetical. inspector walks in with 17 inch barrel, says 'you made this. now to jail.'
asciilifeform: but how to prove that you didn't make a particular non-compliant item
asciilifeform wonders if small arms makers in usa spend more on metals, machining, or lawyers
asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: afaik there's some national list of prohibited features
asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: (ianal!) but recently i was told that it is, apparently, still legal to cut your own 'receiver' in usa - so long as you write your name on it.
asciilifeform: but is there even one asic vendor that didn't mine with customer-paid chips before shipping ?
asciilifeform: out of curiosity, q for the aficionados: is there any mining hw vendor that is innocent of the scam 'bfl' is known to have carried out ?
asciilifeform: (americans simply replaced one or two shells' powder with tetryl, resealed container, and left it for enemy to find as a trophy)
