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jurov: "vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level"
jurov: he asked us to
mircea_popescu: well... what was he declaring haram ? i'm confused on that part.
mircea_popescu: ok, and so then when it did you learned something.
shinohai: We forbid you to forbid things.
jurov: if it works for you, cool. every time i tried to forbid somehing, turned out I was the fool.
mircea_popescu: isn't this fundamentally the work of intelligence ?
mircea_popescu: more's the point : whatcha mean with the haram halal thing jurov ?
mircea_popescu: anyway ; intel knows him, "one of the more accurate predictors of apple's earnings" ; guy's been announcing "apple building new company" bla bla for a year
mircea_popescu: i have nfi who beil cybart is ; but the article in question is spun copy, a notch under of the conceptual value of fanfiction and about on par with wikipedia articles.
jurov: ben_vulpes: i'd definitely like to see such thing. otherwise i don't get this obsession with marking stuff "halal" and "haram".
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that link dun werk! https://archive.is/lzImt ☟︎
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: in the merkel article, s/Germans having been taking/Germans have been taking/ ? :)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there an argument for vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level? ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: phf, jurov: thank you
asciilifeform: cube farms to order!1111
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/55CD9F30ACFFAF6583F74987FBF4CC60F05BF7145C543061E9F49F1C7DB83443 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1466...3029 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.174.78.171 (ssh-rsa key from 79.174.78.171 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (5429.ovz-ssd9.hc.ru. RU)
shinohai: Lulziest headline of today "Pablo Escobar's former hitman robbed in Medellin"
EDLionX: very hot though
mircea_popescu: ok so there you go.
mircea_popescu: what are you saying to it ?
EDLionX: but it keeps telling me this:
EDLionX: im submitting my key to deebot
EDLionX: oh man thats even more condusing
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-17#1568554 << like that. ☝︎
EDLionX: but its confusing the heck outta me
EDLionX: im just trying to import me gpg to deedbot
mircea_popescu: i've never seen more reluctant male even among the actual mongoloids.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 11:32 Framedragger: totally recommend it, even if my film-recommendation-credit has run dry
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-02#1576190 << dude... this thing... ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-november-2016-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), November 2016 Statement
mircea_popescu: but that said, i could use some new players.
mircea_popescu: it's impossible to know, apparently the "hello i am joe of clan moe" is no longer taught in primary school.
asciilifeform: and everybody knows there is no such beast as genderless cat !!
trinque: got enough of those in logs
trinque: "the internet is a place I make inane noises with other creatures to soothe myself"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is this one of yours ?
asciilifeform: is this another eulora dirt-digger or what were those called
shinohai: Well at least he's not a tulpa.
trinque finger hovers over the button
jurov: you are unable to say who/what are you :)
BingoBoingo: We don't even know if there is a you!
zKawaiiKittyz: Well I can asue you I have no twitter with this name xD
trinque: and the topic
shinohai: A problem solved quite well by following the instructions within these hallowed walls.
trinque: same name is some kind of spam account on twitter
BingoBoingo: Anyways zKawaiiKittyz Here's a sample way to anwer the question: "My dad's a gynecologist, he looks at vaginas all day long"
BingoBoingo: I am the party pooper.
zKawaiiKittyz: What does that even mean?
BingoBoingo: But introductions help make the world go round. Let's play a game. It's called Who is your daddy and what does he do?
zKawaiiKittyz: this is confusing, or maybe im not that smart XD
mircea_popescu: or that.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-06 21:10 mircea_popescu: pretty sure the guy reads the log with some sort of frequency.
asciilifeform: it isn't even entirely clear that 'is this a tumour cell?' is a computable function.
asciilifeform: rather, the 'guidance system' is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the poison part was never the difficulty -- e.g., ricin, is even more specific 'cellular' poison
mircea_popescu: anyway, i dun recall the specifics but i think this may have been grafted not endogenous
mircea_popescu: yes, but the models sometimes do.
asciilifeform: it is largely why virtually no 'rat hero' substance ever leaves the rat lab.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> eh pretty much every half-useful attempt at cancer has been 'bind $poison to $selector' << That's essentially all of pharmacology. X fucks Y receptor
asciilifeform: which accounts for heroic 'cures', their cancers would last 3 seconds in a healthy organism
asciilifeform: (inbred to the point of tumouring 'when you look at them sideways')
asciilifeform: only semi-relatedly, rat models have a very obvious (to outsider) problem, that academitards pretend is not problem at all
asciilifeform: eh pretty much every half-useful attempt at cancer has been 'bind $poison to $selector'
mircea_popescu: (general here means exactly the same it does when i say we have a general cure for infection. it's not that nobody can die of infections ; but that there's antibiotics, which mostly work.)
mircea_popescu: which is the deep reason for a major redistribution of research resources from other fashionable causes to cancer in thepast decade, as cartman aptly observed.
mircea_popescu: there's been various successful tests, including prostate-cancer-rat achieving complete remission through 1 iv application. so we have maybe 50-50 chances to see a ~general~ cure for cancer within our lifetime.
mircea_popescu: since recently dna understanding improved significantly, and the workings of the immune system, esp in its binding functions, became more understood ; and since complex molecule synthesis muchly developed as well, a universal cure for cancer based on the principle of getting alpha-amanitin bound to a specific tumour cell seeking protein seems altogether very feasible.
mircea_popescu: and to round off the "fungi are interesting" general literacy thread - the way most (and the most) poisonous mushrooms work is through a substance that inhibits extremely selectively rna polymerase 2. this makes the affected cells unable to reproduce, and hence the "eat destroying angel, get cramps/diarhea in three days, drop dead in 7" effect.
mircea_popescu: they are some of the most diverse biota, possibly 5 to 50mn different species.
asciilifeform: is there even 10k known species of fungus ?
asciilifeform: what, in the eyes of mircea_popescu , would count as 'serious result' in subj field ??
mircea_popescu: (actually, for they reading to educate : most fungi live in more or less mutualistic relationships with lichens ; a few with trees, which are advancedlichens)
mircea_popescu: governments, turns out, tend to waste their resources.
mircea_popescu: which is why i say, not much seriouys work done on the actual topic.
mircea_popescu: most aren't interested in your frozen tv dinner.
asciilifeform: now this --- yes.
mircea_popescu: yes, but there's a very few fungi that are industrially relevant
asciilifeform: fungi also. radiosterilization is a thing
mircea_popescu: in general they were directed at "interesting" things which didn't include fungi
asciilifeform: (housecat that grows to german shepherd size, other side-show attractions)
asciilifeform: afaik very little came of it, other than substance that induces certain side effect - gigantism in mammals
mircea_popescu: if they did produce anything useful in the above vein i've never seen it.
asciilifeform: but 20th c. megaempires obsessively irradiated various living things, to see what comes of it.
mircea_popescu: which should prolly be a decent grant topic for the curious.
mircea_popescu: but afaik nobody has done serious work on "order species by spore resistance to proton beam illumination".
mircea_popescu: as per the "man breaks, horse splashes" theorem.
asciilifeform: (if you're something like a, e.g., deinococcus radiodurans , assume it takes >1 bullet. some finite number.)
asciilifeform: folx putter around with crackpotteries like proton decay, but imho this is a more interesting number
mircea_popescu: there's planets with wild volcanoes of ethylene in our very solar system. red dwarf may make them rather pleasant.
asciilifeform: btw it might be possible to approximate ~how much time~
mircea_popescu: sure ; but they've got time.
asciilifeform: everybody is fond of 'space spores' but so far 0 clues re a 2nd place where they might work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's some possibility their spores made it out into outer space.
trinque: who said those molecules give a shit about you
trinque: might be entirely natural to fart around on a planet for a while then get knocked by some rock onto the next one
asciilifeform: they can't breathe red dwarf any moar than trilobyte can.
mircea_popescu: except things like dog vomit, or the previously discussed black alcohol modl. they've been here fopr a long long time now.
trinque: at any rate the AI thing is exactly "discover the meaning of life"
asciilifeform: on long enough scale, everybody's trilobyte.