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mircea_popescu: "For example, when I first came to Japan, I had no computer. I also had no money, because the plane ticket and setting up my household ate all of my savings. In America, this isn’t a barrier to getting a computer, because Dell will do a quick FICO score on you and then happily extend you $2,000 of trade credit."
asciilifeform: the unspoken but correct answer is 'if i go and pretend to be a real liberal-profession, lawyer, airline pilot, i will go to jail'
mircea_popescu: from what i heard from all other shops, they do. it's like asking why has superluminous tachyon decided to bless your apparatus.
asciilifeform: why not go across the street and pretend to be some other thing. why came to our door.
asciilifeform: it always boggled my imagination, how these folx pick a thing to 'be'
asciilifeform: if not mega-seekrit, what sort of worker was he pretending to be..?
mircea_popescu: needless to say this produced "correct" responses through the insufferable avenue of missing out on the problem. ☟︎
asciilifeform: aaaah THEM!!
mircea_popescu: ah. the inflexible 29 yo had this very obnoxious penchant for trying to restate any problem in specific terms as per his textbook.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform (i suspect we may be talking at cross purposes)
asciilifeform: sketch plox the inflexible 29yo
mircea_popescu: well no, i've never had the pleasure of hiring for the army.
asciilifeform: does army service count as 'employ' for the purpose of mircea_popescu's disdainful eye ?
mircea_popescu: which incidentally was true at the time.
mircea_popescu: i actually told a 29 yo "i know a guy who's 92 and a lot more flexible than you".
mircea_popescu: old folks as in bio age i usually have an easy enough time with ; young folks who aspire to be employed however are aged beyond their age, like touched by the fucking vorlons.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think you are describing 'old folx', not necessarily diplomaed
ben_vulpes: the lifetime of coddling doesn't make managing them any easier either.
ben_vulpes: and the old folks who bear them, occasionally as well.
ben_vulpes: us degrees are worse than worthless, they're an actual burden. holders generally have such an inflated opinion of themselves and blown up cashflow needs due to student loans they're nigh unemployable.
asciilifeform: degrees -- worthless; people pretending to know what computer is but came straight from donkey - ubiquitous
asciilifeform: olympiads are a desperation measure, when i sat on other end of the table i resorted to them also
asciilifeform: there was even one 'tbtf' corp where they wheeled in a pc-cum-tv thing and ida...
asciilifeform: nothing prizeworthy, because wtf, think someone wants to sit and make up real prize problem.. but it wasn't all low-effort crapola either.
asciilifeform: some outfits had 'olympiad' so gnarly that it was given 'takehome'
asciilifeform: 'here's a pg of obdjump -D .., say what is the routine'
asciilifeform: last time asciilifeform went around to look for work, saw an astonishing variety of olympiad puzzles
asciilifeform: it's a helloworld, a litmus to see whether esteemed mr. orc has even heard of the notion of programming a computer
mircea_popescu: srsly now. can they stock their pantry, these people ?
mircea_popescu: i don't even see how the fuck this is programming.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 16:58 asciilifeform: (at a recent hellhole where asciilifeform worked, they marched in folx with perfect marks, many magister degrees in 'sciences', etc., who COULD NOT PROGRAM)
asciilifeform: re 'buzz' test, see also http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1569804 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there was some nudity wasn't there ?
mircea_popescu: not even that far off.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:55 pete_dushenski would very much one day like to see what these bdsm clubs are all about, preferably with mircea_popescu as guide, for he presently has nfi what he's missing out on.
mircea_popescu: what is with these obnoxious prigs already.
mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit, "use separate variable, test the number test variable if empty" can be written in fucking bash.
mircea_popescu: holy shit! the page itself claims there is a simple structure... BUt ONLY FOR LISP
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:47 phf: pete_dushenski: sure, but my comment stands. when you read travel diaries in general they all have the same format, it's just this particular one reads like "in my country of Kazakhstan we shoot dog, i couldn't find any places to shoot dogs in so called civilized england"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580131 << 'where, sir, i SHOULD PUT THIS!!???' (tm) (r) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but what i specifically take issue with is the claim that "There is no clear way in any languages". what the heck ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 02:30 mircea_popescu: i don't get this fizzbuzz thing. someone explain it to me ? for i from 1 to 100 do if i is divisible by 3 j+="Fizz" ; if i is divisible by 5 j+="Buzz" if j is null j = i print j.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580164 << it was a pons asinorum, a 'write hello world' exam to weed out applicants who 1) cannot program to save their life 2) memorized 'hello world' to fool examinators ☝︎
mircea_popescu: one of these is going to turn out to be whatever supersecret bullshit someone put online because idiots and everyone's going to lose their shit.
asciilifeform: this is one of those fabled ipmi cards mircea_popescu spoke of in earlier thread.
asciilifeform: nfi what else, there is probably a vendor backdoor, i cannot be arsed
asciilifeform: you can trivially enumerate users ('admin', for instance, confirms to exist...)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:27 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AAF7663C0AECC17FC31935B62259B2A1A4700A0EAE5AB14624B296023EEF258C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1489...4207 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '123.103.245.144 (ssh-rsa key from 123.103.245.144 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown HK)
mircea_popescu: am i nuts or something ? wtf "I think Fizz-Buzz is "hard" for some programmers because (#1) it doesn't fit into any of the patterns that were given to them in school assignments, and (#2) it isn't possible to directly and simply represent the necessary tests, without duplication, in just about any commonly-used modern programming language." (as per http://wiki.c2.com/?FizzBuzzTest )
mircea_popescu: i don't get this fizzbuzz thing. someone explain it to me ? for i from 1 to 100 do if i is divisible by 3 j+="Fizz" ; if i is divisible by 5 j+="Buzz" if j is null j = i print j. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this tiny may bug like creature is having the time of its life over on the db in jp monitor. i've never seen one so happy.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FFE6DAF3C3F67391AD8CBEA1EC2F88C16821237CF7F335B9890B0808F9FFEFBA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1489...4207 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '123.103.245.199 (ssh-rsa key from 123.103.245.199 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown HK)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AAF7663C0AECC17FC31935B62259B2A1A4700A0EAE5AB14624B296023EEF258C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1489...4207 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '123.103.245.144 (ssh-rsa key from 123.103.245.144 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown HK)
mircea_popescu: course seems the last for the year was o wait, you have one on 14th.
pete_dushenski: bbiab. to inquire!
pete_dushenski: haha there are worse ideas
mircea_popescu: there lol. sign up for a meeting, take wifey along.
mircea_popescu: eh, they probably advertise.
pete_dushenski: this is where i sheepishly admit that there could be one across the street but that i've not yet encountered anyone who's admitted to knowledge of its whereabouts. though given that 'edmonton ab' showed up on a few of the fetlife meatlist, you sorta have to figure there must be ~something~ of the sort in a town >1mn pop.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure they must have one.
mircea_popescu: i thought you lived in something that passes for urban center in the frozen wastes ?
pete_dushenski would very much one day like to see what these bdsm clubs are all about, preferably with mircea_popescu as guide, for he presently has nfi what he's missing out on. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: which should be within first two weeks :p
mircea_popescu: here, too, on coupla of occasion took girl over sunday noon that i had met saturday night at bdsm club no less. resulting in some appropriately spooked parents.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol. good comeback. and yes, gotta meet parents, ideally even before formal courtship begins or else within first two weeks of commencement.
pete_dushenski guesses that quantity of honey depends on the degree of f-i-l's personal means, how many girls he's burdened with, and how much of a stud the s-i-l is.
mircea_popescu: one time, the dad of this chick (/me is very old school, always insisted in meeting the parents of all molls) asked me if i have serious intentions. so i asked him if she's a virgin.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: this hasn't changed in 100 years, but still depends ~where~ we're discussing.
pete_dushenski: phf: to be sure
mircea_popescu: how the fuck these "men" have managed to turn that into the above quote in one short century is anyone's guess.
mircea_popescu notes for the record that in 1916, man considering the mitzvah of accepting a cunt in his household was given money, and no insignificant portion thereof, by the ever-delighted parents.
phf: pete_dushenski: sure, but my comment stands. when you read travel diaries in general they all have the same format, it's just this particular one reads like "in my country of Kazakhstan we shoot dog, i couldn't find any places to shoot dogs in so called civilized england" ☟︎
pete_dushenski: apparently the 'big city' of tokyo or wherever isn't part of the jp where triads ARE the law, financiers, drug dealers, etc etc.
mircea_popescu: ~if i am~ a drug dealer and i burn down your house, you'll what ? file a police report ? go on the local news network with a teary eyed "no one could have predicted that if i get pissy with people who break the law for a living i might end up with a burned down house" ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
pete_dushenski: ofc not, so 'drug dealer' is obv a snide remark, not actually positied theory ☟︎
mircea_popescu: would you think an elder who ineptly harasses a drug dealer is particularly respectable ?
pete_dushenski: phf: the authors aren't highly cultured and esteemed envoys from foreign lands, they're just... regular blokes.
mircea_popescu: now, it is true that you don't have to deal drugs to accumulate power ; nor because you accumulated it. but it is supremely unwise to imagine one's not going to crack a few skulls if it comes to it.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski all the warning signs are there. to wit : "(The hypothesis was advanced, more than once, that as a foreigner who routinely travels abroad, speaks Spanish, and has money without any evidence of gainful employment, I was probably a drug dealer. I wish I were joking.)"
phf: that's what i'm saying though, these are like nifty anthropological studies by very inept anthropologists. you learn more about the author, than...
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: only for values of 'my way' that resolve to mircea_popescu and similar, which'd be rare enough to mostly ignore in jp. or else, sure, in a world where ol' ladies be gettin' torched leftrightandcentre, gramma opens the door for you, not the other way around.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski respect for the elders is predicated upon the stable basis of them elders having earned enough life experience to know better than getting in my way.
mircea_popescu: mod6 and these are the dorks who go "oh, midwest, flyover zone". really ? flyover zone for what, your ballsac in a sling ?
mod6: yeah, srsly. "here's my tax returns." wat?!
mircea_popescu: da fuck, empowering old women, wtf is this. whatever happened to bitch, if you talk out of line i'll burn you alive.
mircea_popescu: i know dogs that are more respectable.
mircea_popescu: how does this dude expect to be taken seriously, by anyone, like ever ?
mircea_popescu: holy shit these people...
mircea_popescu: "When I met her mother for the first time, I brought my resume and tax returns. Her mother was not 100% keen on the match when we started dating, as a combination of “foreigner” and “not gainfully employed” suggested that I was not exactly marriage material, but I eventually won her over."
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AAF7663C0AECC17FC31935B62259B2A1A4700A0EAE5AB14624B296023EEF258C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1489...4207 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '123.103.245.144 (ssh-rsa key from 123.103.245.144 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown HK) ☟︎
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/23F4D70A532D06432B7710D4685138EB5DB19B3AD816EFD65D4E8158E361E79C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1732...0147 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.98.75.157 (ssh-rsa key from 79.98.75.157 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (79-98-75-157.sys-data.com. CZ ST)
mircea_popescu: except she is "intermediate" among the people actually making money ; not among the people aspiring to be used, which is still not the same as making money. you could just as well say tom cook is an intermediate manager (in the sense that bezos is clearly better and whoever they have at microsoft, that indian fellow, clearly worse), so you figure ten years after getting your degree from ohio state business school you'll be pu
mircea_popescu: this is like saying that your "sense of the market" indicates that as an intermediate starlet in her 30s you'd probably command between 1 and 3 mn pa because hey, that's what bravo/seveteen/cosmo/whatever said christina applegate was making at some point in 2006 when she was 32 and was doing three different things.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha get the fuck out.
mircea_popescu: "One’s actual salary as a salaryman is generally rather low — about $100 per year of age per month, as an engineer in Nagoya (set by a particular monopsonistic engineering employer near Nagoya). In Tokyo, my sense of the market is that, as an intermediate engineer in his early thirties, I’d probably command somewhere between $30k and $60k. (In Silicon Valley, the going rate would be somewhere between $120k and $160k and
mircea_popescu: !#s tptacek
mircea_popescu: " about: THOMAS H. PTACEK hopes, by strict attention to business, combined with moderate charges, to merit a fair share of patronage and support."
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 00:55 mircea_popescu does exactly this on occasion, feeds cats.
ben_vulpes: oh, it's mckenzie's turn huh? how'd he escape the eye of sauron for so long?
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm enjoying reading this kalzumeus piece on japanese culture. it's like japan consists of the 1950s mob.