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jurov: what about converting pics to ppm/pnm?
phf: binary blobs remain an unsolved problem. the whole idea of binary (or base64) is contrary to some of the more philosophical aspects of vpatch you and mp like to discuss, so i don't know if base64 even solves it. ☟︎
asciilifeform: lel mircea_popescu shows up just when i was about to switch on my robotic autopopescu, to say 'stop trying to deedbot nonhumancomestibles!'
adlai: this 'hope' gets tested immediately. i'm only suggesting a quick fix here, still thinking about the proper one.
asciilifeform: you want 'hope', go to casino.
asciilifeform: adlai: fuck that
adlai: obviously this is not a replacement for a proper fix to vdiff itself
adlai: d) b64(gzip), hope that bug doesn't recur
asciilifeform: b) release vtronic pld source only -- and deedbot apparently doesn't eat vpatches yet -- AND then would have no schematics
asciilifeform: a) deedbot hashes of binary garbage -- this is not vtronic!
asciilifeform: so right now i'm looking at the options:
asciilifeform: and the pld verilog code in the genesis is WORTHLESS without the schematics
asciilifeform: and before anyone asks, the png's are not lolcats, they are schematics
adlai: of course, although the current vdiff is a mishmash of three abstractions, two of which have their own DSLs (bash & awk), so some amount of abstraction leak is inevitable
asciilifeform: and gets nailed same way every time ?
asciilifeform: do you understand, adlai , that i am NOT interested in beginning long career of idiot special case patches to vdiff ?
asciilifeform: and what prevents some idiocy in the future from also 'containing two spaces' ?
adlai: in the lines that you do want that awk script to match
asciilifeform: i have nfi right now what to do with this nonsense. ☟︎
adlai: the per-file header produced by gnudiff should contain two spaces, whereas b64 data should contain none
asciilifeform: and vdiff sees it and emits the barf.
asciilifeform: gnudiff turns that into a '+++....'
asciilifeform: adlai: it's actually a line of binhexolade that begins with '++'
adlai: re:space, i realize the space is the separator in the patch syntax; the awk script is not looking for it though
adlai: it could help to see the exact lines that caused this
asciilifeform: adlai: the space is the separator
adlai: although i may be understanding the spec incorrectly
adlai: i don't think "+++ " can be a valid (subseq line 0 4)
adlai: at which point the planet gains angular momentum, due to murphy spinning slower in his grave
asciilifeform: right into the output stream.
asciilifeform: and apparently '+++' is a valid sequence inside these.
asciilifeform: so i had two base64's png files in there, ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ok what's the syntax then
phf: trinque wants me to deedbot logs, and if it only takes clearsigns, that would be kind of tricky.
asciilifeform: i thought it only ate clearsigns.
phf: huh, i didn't know that. i thought deedbot takes binary blobs sort of deal
asciilifeform: btw for folx who are thick as a brick i will point out, that i SPECIFICALLY DO NOT WANT vdiff's '---' turned by idiot koch liquishit into '- ---' ☟︎
asciilifeform: AS THEY ARE
asciilifeform: i want : these ^ deedbotted.
phf: asciilifeform: i misunderstand the question then
adlai: asciilifeform: i realize there is not an incentive to perform such mischief. this is just me being talkative.
asciilifeform: y'know, with block time & all.
asciilifeform: i'd like to deedbot it though.
phf: asciilifeform: i think the solution that we arrived at is that you just paste the two pastebot urls clear and sig and i pick them up. so if you want to deedbot them, just do that, and you can assume that it'll end up in btcbase
asciilifeform: because i am now becoming quite certain that you did ask
asciilifeform: adlai: what did your mother say to you when you were small and asked this ?
asciilifeform: adlai: how about whether delay in tying your shoes is worth the gain in not tripping over own laces ?
adlai: sufficiently resourceful prankster might enrich S.NSA at customers' expence by giving them different amounts
adlai wonders whether the delay of signing the order info is worth the gain in trust
asciilifeform: omfgh is this still unsolved problem.
asciilifeform: WITHOUT THE IDIOT MUTILATION of clearsign ☟︎
asciilifeform: i would like to deed FUCKGOATS
asciilifeform: phf, trinque, et al : is it yet possible to throw a vpatch into deedbot ?
adlai: ugh, sadly internet collections of quotes from "The Phantom Tollbooth" lack the one about valid reasons... left as exercise to reader
asciilifeform: 'wut dus this button do'
adlai has this nasty habit of doing things for no particularly good reason. working on culling it.
asciilifeform: and not also to x,y,and z.
asciilifeform: get into the habit of encrypting to the fella to whom you were asked to encrypt.
adlai: ok so i'll leave out the --encrypt-to stan
asciilifeform: but on other hand, i ~like~ not having to know where crate is doing until the very hour.
adlai: out of curiosity, why are orders encrypted to mircea_popescu , when i'd assume (silly me, all these assumptions!) that asciilifeform is the one actually doing the assembly + shipping? ☟︎
phf: goes back to our conversation about "why you no respect ptacek". since their opinions are not hinged on any deliberately lived experience, they change them according to fashions. if you happen to be fashion aligned you'll think that they are geniuses, but as soon as you start doing your own thing, you realize just how superficial they are
Framedragger: (but that's different from a developer endorsing js crypto, of course)
Framedragger: which is, you know, how you end up in a pool, surrounded by sharks and tigers :p / :(
Framedragger: i suppose so, but his tone was more like "gpg UI is shit => gpg is shit => eh fuck gpg, i'll just use signal/otr etc [and i encourage others to do the same]"
shinohai: well sure u dont have to use it
Framedragger: shinohai: why should it selectively disallow to sign whatever you wanted?
Framedragger: fwiw i still like moxie, but it's sad that he's doing the "i don't use gpg anymore" thing, too ☟︎
Framedragger: well.. that's one of the problems. i don't really keep names in my mind, it's not worth the space. sorry if i implied that i'd be able to point at anything interesting
Framedragger: indeed, attack is stronger than initially pictured. "sane" "developers" actually promote js crypto, etc.; i guess that just means that one has to be even more vigilant (and proactively declare those to be insane).. :)
thestringpuller: look i thought jgarzik's tweet about gpg dying was just an outlier of PRB nonsense but it's a plague now I've witnessed for myself, that is all ☟︎
davout: shinohai: you're such a racist and elitist pig. cryptography should be easy and downloadable from the appstore
shinohai: nah they still ask you to "paste copy of privkey in browser to enact enhanced features* ☟︎
thestringpuller: or atleast I have yet to encounter a keybase user in the wild who has done so...
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I don't think keybase allows you to generate keys anymore...you have to supply them...
thestringpuller: While asciilifeform is diligently building fuckgoats the lamestream media will inevitably "white wash javascript" crypto. Above is evidnce of it happening in the making. Maybe not suprising to you. But surprising to me to see it more rampantly.
adlai: this sounds like a criticism of JS-generated keys, rather than a criticism of "private key never existed on an internet-connected computer, and no backup is saved other than a piece of paper"
asciilifeform: what part of this crapola is new or interesting, thestringpuller ?
thestringpuller: Luke-jr was trying to warn people similarly to you as to "paper wallet" crap-olade. And "the self proclaimed experts" stated, " He doesn't believe that any security sensitive activity should happen in a web browser, disregarding the fact that today's JavaScript actually has excellent cryptographic bonafides -- like a random number generator that's generally stronger than whatever the host operating system can offer."
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: well the cyrpto-pocalypse is happening. reading several arguments against the "paper-wallet" and literally saw "Javascript has strong cryptographic functions. Generate keys in your web browser!"
adlai: asciilifeform: any forecast of when batch two will assemble & ship? ☟︎
jhvh1: adlai: The operation succeeded.
adlai: !~later tell mod6 may I please be granted admission to your trb dev channel(s)?
adlai: ;;later tell mod6 may I please be granted admission to your trb dev channel(s)?
mircea_popescu: !~translate en to zh-CN "plateau copy goat"
mircea_popescu: rape is not the answer!
shinohai: !~translate en to zh-CN "rape goats"
mircea_popescu: !~translate en to zh-CN "VIGOROUS COPULATION GOATS"
mircea_popescu: !~translate en to zh-CN "FUCK GOATS"
mircea_popescu: !~translate en to zh-CN "FUCK GOATS"
shinohai: !~translate en to zh-CN Fuckgoats
mircea_popescu: in other news, today i learned a chinese! it goes like so : 和我一起,那是你的婊子掴你进监狱,并与所有的民族疯人院 ☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/this-nick-cave-thing-isnt-even-horrible/ << Trilema - This Nick Cave thing isn't even horrible.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3aCuKBWE3A << in other news, nick cave ain't even terrible.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2C24B5DEB41DB3A5A7BF180833B9FA2DF23C78F887B4CB52F57F662DD5632F8D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1536...4809 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.226.8.108 (ssh-rsa key from 213.226.8.108 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (brico-rus1.mtel.net. BG)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F24AA9CF11A01F8E3F25C060D49840FB4E0D7D78FF146A3024B3BFEE92EC85BB << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1540...7149 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.41.78.163 (ssh-rsa key from 213.41.78.163 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (radius-front2.fr.colt.net. GB)
asciilifeform: 'we'll murder'em all, amidst laughter and merriment! except for a few we'll take home to EXPERIMENT!!111'
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59tKpTFlaME << pretty sure that's illegal by now
mircea_popescu: looky : it's rare that your conclusions are baffling because i'm not aware what ~i~ said. it's generally the case that i'm not aware what nutty assumptions you baked into it. so, what ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 05:55 mircea_popescu: aaaand... we're sold out on the 1st batch o.O