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mod6: totally worthwhile. but the exant code appears to still work on main-net anyway. but agreed, more testing/auditing/investigation required for sure.
mircea_popescu: kinda what prb "testnet" tries to be
mod6: that i do not know. but indeed a good test. set diff to 1, then generate
mircea_popescu: no he is right, you can mine it if you stay on a special subnet that's isolated.
mod6: produce a block? quit trollin'
asciilifeform: as i currently understand it, you need a 'binary star' system of two lan nodes for either to actually mine ☟︎
mod6: (15:57) <@mod6> ThreadRPCServer method=getgenerate
mod6: (15:57) <@mod6> Starting 1 BitcoinMiner threads
mod6: (15:57) <@mod6> ThreadRPCServer method=setgenerate
mod6: i've run it myself since then for sure.
asciilifeform: it is necessary. afaik trb's miner has not been tested since... 2011?
asciilifeform: and mines from genesis, transacts between toy nodes, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, you were referring to 'spin up trb node from 0 on real-life blockchain'. which more or less everyone involved has done, multiple times. his current thing appears to be the 'lan testnet' scenario i suggested a while back. where one pretends that the year is 2009.
mircea_popescu: and that looks like ... defensive buffer allocation ? lol.
asciilifeform: y'know, to see if trb miner actually works. and if indeed the thing can be put on alpha centauri.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no, not full download! that's trivial and everyone did it
mircea_popescu: pretty sure various people (myself included) did full trb blockchain download ; but mimi's very open and usefully so.
asciilifeform: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/util.h?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0056 << and holy shit what is this.
asciilifeform: also imho ben_vulpes has a very spiffy project here and it deserves more brain cycles, he is actually testing the 'bitcoin on alpha centauri' scenario! i.e. replay of time, from genesis and up, in parallel universe, on trb.
asciilifeform: (specifically, cpuminer thread will sleep forever if there are no peers in the peer table, or if it - through braindamaged heuristic - decides that node is in 'initial block download')
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 06:55 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1584697 << http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0685 ; wonder if funkenstein would be game to regrind his nuke_checkpoints patch
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585541 << afaik your real problem is with http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#2790 >> and no, i do not know of any justification for this crud, imho it oughta go away and no one will ever miss it ☝︎☟︎
mod6: how's it goin today ?
asciilifeform: in same rag, https://archive.is/pGDLS >> clitlerists go after the 'heil tritler' d00d's mother. his fans - fight back. 'oh noez localhaust'
mircea_popescu: why the fuck you'd do that is beyond anyone's comprehension, but w/e.
asciilifeform: 'Did He who made the lamb make thee?' (tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: the same species that can glossaly grade nafta dies from antifreeze ingestion. fucking diversity of mankind already.
mircea_popescu: must have like <3 tastebuds left.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you gotta be a serious 'alconaut', and accustomed to swallowing strange, to get there
mircea_popescu: how. how the fuck. how do you drink antifreeze it's like the most objectionable thing in nature.
mircea_popescu: shape looks kinda right and the static collection fits the tube patter
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/xTr3N << holy mother of fuck, is that... a trinitron ? in there
mircea_popescu: i think fuhrer is german. prolly fraulein in latin.
mircea_popescu: do they pump white smoke off the chimney if his dick is on the right side ?
asciilifeform: aha that's how they do it
asciilifeform: the other one, might go to, if bored enough
asciilifeform: the electoral college thing isn't public
asciilifeform: (not the coronation, but the anointment)
asciilifeform: speaking of trumplincton, the actual ceremony is apparently today.
mircea_popescu: "the golden age of all the games suck but we finally don't feel threatened by pgp anymore"
mircea_popescu is particularly annoyed because tried to play torchlight, total clone of diablo ii with ~half the ideas. i'm not sure anyone born after 1980 can even comprehend what a fucking insult to human reason that statement is.
mircea_popescu: ie, the same idiots who thought clinton can win actually think they got the platform sufficiently under control.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, because https & assorted crapola of "progress" made it safe to move the box on their pc. and it is cheaper this way.
mircea_popescu: fucking epileptic trees had a seizure and took over us media production department.,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ~hardware box~ is becoming less common. most of the derps are watching on comp now.
mircea_popescu: put on stage by exactly the sort of lazy, stupid and therefore unfuckworthy nitwit that used to be consigned to the margins of etsy craftsmanship and bad mary sue fanfic.
mircea_popescu: turned out to be unwatchable - the EXACT same imbecile substance.
mircea_popescu: are you fucking kidding me ? bad media is becoming deeply universalized ; i made the mistake to try and watch "black mirror" because omsone said here, it's TERRIBLE from a cinematic point of view (the idiots can't act, can't block, can't speak, can't anyfucking thing ; the whole thing's a droned on ted talk, which is the point) and now i see it everwhere. last night tried to watch film with harvey keitel and michael cain, it
asciilifeform: but yes, i can see how it might work, given as most folx who have these get their ip connectivity from same place as the tv box
asciilifeform: these are becoming fewer in number, even among chronic tv users
mircea_popescu: so watever, tivo ? cable top box ? call it what you will, the official-media-consumption-toolkit.
mircea_popescu: much like some people can't tell blacks apart, i can't really distinguish between https-and-unicode flavouring #1 and #2
asciilifeform: but sure, i can picture how this part might work.
mircea_popescu suffers from a chronic inability to distinguish the microsoft vermin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at least media consumption data comes from their netflix boxes spying onthem
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 03:58 BingoBoingo: "One spark for Jorjani’s missive was a short post on Leiter Reports, a popular philosophy blog, called “Ph.D. in Philosophy From SUNY Stony Brook Is Also a Neo-Nazi.” The blog’s editor, Brian Leiter, Karl N. Llewellyn Professor of Jurisprudence at the University of Chicago, noted that Jorjani spoke at a recent meeting of the National Policy Institute led by white nationalist Richard Spencer. The meeting included a “Hail Trump
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585532 << it wouldn't be so astonishing if in the process of 'heightening the contradictions', academitards who go against party line end up with revoked degrees. this was sop in the last reich, why not this one. ☝︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: apparently not clear to some.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 14:15 mircea_popescu: https://www.quantcast.com/stackoverflow.com << in other lulz, the merchandise&media consumption affinities of "independent", "scientific" and you know, "advanced-civilised-progressive" ustards are pretty lulzy
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585564 << folx throw in all kinds of nonsense when answering spam surveys, mega-surprise ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 13:42 Framedragger: but also asciilifeform's; and if you google phuctor it's.. clear? hm. this goes back to the discussion of kindergarten kids stamping their name everywhere, cf. kids who don't
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585556 << i dun get it, is it at any point unclear to reader how to get in contact with the coauthors?? there is a big, fat 'contact' button, that is not enough ?? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1585548 << thing was quite certainly not built to be wound backwards ☝︎
mircea_popescu: https://www.quantcast.com/stackoverflow.com << in other lulz, the merchandise&media consumption affinities of "independent", "scientific" and you know, "advanced-civilised-progressive" ustards are pretty lulzy ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:44 mircea_popescu: ~if i am~ a drug dealer and i burn down your house, you'll what ? file a police report ? go on the local news network with a teary eyed "no one could have predicted that if i get pissy with people who break the law for a living i might end up with a burned down house" ?
mircea_popescu: and yes if you run into one, you're probably one step removed from a guy who http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580129 and two steps removed from truckloads of $forbidenitems ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's like the girl that naturally fucks on the first date, and demands to be fucked in the ass. yes they can exist. no they don't figure in anyone's expectations.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how software works. there's a very clear denied middle : it is either the product of a ~lone individual~, or else of a corporation. there is no multiple-people-work-without-usg-foundations-and-crap in most people's minds, because there isn't such a thing is most people's experience.
Framedragger: eh, whatevs. i redirect the masses to f.a.q. etc as needed.
Framedragger: i.e., maybe it's not clear because asciilifeform is too shy
Framedragger: but also asciilifeform's; and if you google phuctor it's.. clear? hm. this goes back to the discussion of kindergarten kids stamping their name everywhere, cf. kids who don't ☟︎
Framedragger: (i clarified to him that it's not my project, dunno how he got the impression)
Framedragger: (and yeah, this dude was like, "hey nice project, how do i submit my key for testing" - cool.)
Framedragger: i think some sysadmins may want to be able to submit their ssh-rsa pubkeys themselves. and phuctor only accepts openpgp format, this needs to be converted (ssh pubkey -> gpg pubkey). so i'm adapting/stealing jurov's script and cleaning it up.
mircea_popescu: convertors, not a bad idea. we'll have to fix everything to work with proper rsa format anyways
Framedragger: this was while testing a script to be given to this austrian dude who wrote me, asking how to submit his server's ssh key (ssh server running on a nonstandard port)
Framedragger: (metainfo was supposed to be different but i experienced a derp.)
Framedragger: um, i was testing a script, and submitted gpg key to phuctor with luzly metainfo (http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7F1646FA33357FBC152F66E66E297B4F11EF0C3B04438FDF3B254993C3A6F814).. erm, since those specific rsa numbers are already in phuctor db, it'd be safe to remove this one asciilifeform. or keep it for the luls
mircea_popescu: ahahaha! so : according to mp's meticulously kept state archives : yes it's true one josef israel kugelmann from fritzlar-kassel (#29044 born 13may1877, prev residence munsterstrasse 60) was (and died) at dachau. his wife, ~betty~ sara, was nee plaut not rotschild.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1584697 << http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0685 ; wonder if funkenstein would be game to regrind his nuke_checkpoints patch ☝︎☟︎
Framedragger: congrats on the shipment asciilifeform :)
BingoBoingo: ” moment, and the organization describes itself as committed to defending "the heritage, identity and future of people of European descent in the United States, and around the world."" << Brian Leiter is a notorious aspie
BingoBoingo: "One spark for Jorjani’s missive was a short post on Leiter Reports, a popular philosophy blog, called “Ph.D. in Philosophy From SUNY Stony Brook Is Also a Neo-Nazi.” The blog’s editor, Brian Leiter, Karl N. Llewellyn Professor of Jurisprudence at the University of Chicago, noted that Jorjani spoke at a recent meeting of the National Policy Institute led by white nationalist Richard Spencer. The meeting included a “Hail Trump ☟︎
phf: i think it's great if you only use twm/x11 to spawn a couple of xterms, so you can run your mathematica and write your Fortran simulation code. sort of a Dijkstra lisp machine, when exploratory interactivity is not the main goal. building this whole infrastructure on it was a folly
phf: unix also had a lot more of an organic decentralized approach, beyond mans i don't think anybody actual read anything on the subject of unix (a few key books, like k&r or steven's on tcpip). pretty sure people would just grab the source and learn by exploration
asciilifeform: not only computing, but the ~actual~ computing, not the new jersey garbage.
phf: i'm pretty sure that ai memos are enough to rebuild computing from scratch. has architectural descriptions, cpu design, fabrication, language designs, text editors ("emacs" before it was taken over by rms is described in one of the ai-memos, both as a standalone thing and as set of TECO marcos), various algorithms
phf: i think "ai research" is a mislabel, because the promise of ai was used to keep the funding going, and there is a lot of failed hacks on the subject, but the bulk of actual work was more about how to do computers
asciilifeform: (and i'm not even certain whether to count bell labs)
asciilifeform: 1958-78 or so, mit was one of the 2 or 3 worthwhile things happening in computing per se.
phf: mircea_popescu: csail (mit ai lab then) published "ai memos" from 1959 to sometime in early 2000s where they described a lot of "firsts" in computing in general. scheme spec was published by sussman and steele, lisp 1.5 compiler (first "self-hosting"), lisp machine architecture, etc. most papers are not so much ai as computing in general.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the solution traditionally involves starvation & leather belts.
mircea_popescu: as much as we might like the (self-unaware) lords involved, it can't be seriously argued that mit actually did much in cs.
mircea_popescu: phf hey, at least unlike the 15-20 years of "ai research", this ~actually does something~.
BingoBoingo needs to get a pet he can stand for more than a month at a time.
mod6: yeah srsly. ty
BingoBoingo: Tell her ty
phf: ""Polaris" system from MIT's Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Lab accelerates website load-time (34 percent faster!!1) by decreasing network trips." great new advacements from the famous CSAIL
BingoBoingo: Tale prolly on Trilema
mircea_popescu: but hey, idiocy doesn't hurt ; if it did wikipedia'd be larger than silk road.